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Thread: question about droids from a non-DE

Kiom
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:11 pm
#1

I don't think it is an exploit. The description for a cluster module says it fits in a "variety" of slots. To me this means more than one type of slot. So IMHO a cluster module can fit in in a standard slot and allow 3 modules to be installed.


However, I imaging that SOE would see the "Stacking" of cluster modules as an exploit. Maybe not as what is the point? More than one crafting station in a droid won't work so no point in stacking those. Same for item storage and medical modules (they are capped). Data modules... who cares. It seems instead of making it so you couldn't stack cluster modules they jsut limited the effects of stacking modules all together.


Kiom


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Javac
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:11 pm
#2

It is an exploit that the Devs are choosing to ignore.

Cluster modules are only supposed to be usable in slots for cluster modules (R2, R3, etc) but are usable in any slot! Technically, you could have every single possible module in an MSE, which only takes one module without using the exploit.


I refuse to take advantage of this as well, except for two occasions (ie broke).



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IsaacPalinander
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:22 pm
#3

It is most certainly an exploit. Check your schematics guys. There are droids (R3, ADV R2, etc) that have slots that specifically call for the socket cluster. It gives those high end droids greater functional potential. Otherwise, why make them at all? To say it's not an exploit is to suggest that a mouse droid with 3+ modules in it is reasonable. It's not. This, like module stacking, is an exploit that will eventually be fixed, rest assured.



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Kiom
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:25 pm
#4

I understand that R2 requires a cluster module, but look at the description for a cluster module. It says "variety of slots".



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darthfodder
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:29 pm
#5

I would like to ask if stacking modules is a exploit why are there 3 armor slots on a binary load lifter? As far as stacking clusters in each otherI never do it, modules yes i will stack. It seems in the past that anything that SOE has felt was an exploit they cleared it up really quickly.
Kiom
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:36 pm
#6

I personally don't/haven't stacked cluster modules as I am afraid it will be nerfed somehow and my customers will lose functionality. But like I said ealier, what is the point? You can't get more than 10 items or more than one crafting station or more than 110% medical so there really isn't a need to stack cluster modules. Yes I guess you could stack a ton of level 1 medicals to get to 110% but if you are at the point where you can make a cluster are you really going to craft L1 modules anymore?


As far as armor in the BLL LOL... the way it is now, why bother. I'm hoping these will have a use like harvester runs and the armor will come in handy then.




Monroe Glesn - Distant cousin of Kiom
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IsaacPalinander
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:42 pm
#7

Armor was meant to stack. You can't seriously think it's reasonable that someone can slapmultiple low levelmed modulestogether and simulate a master level module? And I won't even entertain the notion that one module conserves space in the droid. That's a feable arguement indeed. Module stacking (except armor because there are multiple slots specifically labelled armor) is clearly an exploit. If that were not the case, what's the point of attaining master at all? To get the deeds for ADV Protocol, and ADV BLL? Yeah, those are so useful they are sure worth the time and resources it takes to grind. I'm just patiently waiting for the day when this is fixed and all those stacked droids out there are rendered useless and the people who make them are left to answer their angry customers' questions.



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Ninachuu
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:44 pm
#8

ok i know nothing about how these are constructed, so what can i have in a adv probot droid that isn't done via exploiting?

can i at least get the 110 medical and a craft station and still have max armor?

And is there someone on Starsider that can make this for me?



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Kiom
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:44 pm
#9

Read the descritpion.



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IsaacPalinander
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:54 pm
#10

Ninachuu, you can have 2 service modules (ie- crafting station, med module, etc), and 2 armor modules.



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Raleran0
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:25 pm
#11

If they do nerf module stacking I hope they do it like they did with the datapad and creatures. With that they just made it so you can't put any creatures in the datapad slots but allowed you to keep the ones that are already in them. So I hope the droids that are already made keep their functionality and any newly crafted droid just don't accept the clusters in non-cluster slots.

As far as armor they must be meant to stack. If you look at the higher level armor plates it looks like you should be able to tailor the armor piece to give better protection towards certain damage types. If that's possible you should be able to boost 2 resistances.
Jabetha
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:29 pm
#12

Sorry... but considering this has been around and the developers have known about it since BETA... it is now officially a 'FEATURE' and not an exploit.
SnowDog2003
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:33 pm
#13

>>>It is an exploit that the Devs are choosing to ignore.

>>>Cluster modules are only supposed to be usable in slots for cluster modules (R2, R3, etc) but are usable in any slot! Technically, you could have every single possible module in an MSE, which only takes one module without using the exploit.


I don't agree with this. If cluster modules were only meant for cluster slots, then why not just create the droid schematic with more regular slots?


I don't think it's an exploit.


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