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It makes no difference at all, so until SOE makes it relevant you should not use your good resources to make electronics. Hoard your good stuff for the day when experimentation matters, but for now use whatever cheap grinding crap you can find to make your electronics.

I take pride in my work, but I'm also not stupid. There is absolutely no point in throwing away good resources on an item that does not reflect that quality.

Would you use gold to make fishing sinkers? They'd be higher quality, but it makes a lot more sense to use lead.

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Kollos wrote:

It makes no difference at all, so until SOE makes it relevant you should not use your good resources to make electronics. Hoard your good stuff for the day when experimentation matters, but for now use whatever cheap grinding crap you can find to make your electronics.

I take pride in my work, but I'm also not stupid. There is absolutely no point in throwing away good resources on an item that does not reflect that quality.

Would you use gold to make fishing sinkers? They'd be higher quality, but it makes a lot more sense to use lead.

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I didnt say use good resources, I just said experiment with whatever it is you decide to use

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CsciGuy wrote:
Well , experimentation does increase the complexity of the item and that affects the factory run time.

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/sigh

Once again I see "statements of fact" made when there is not one shred of concrete proof that experimentation and/or resource quality are ineffective.

My challenge remains open... Prove it with factual documentation.. i.e.: Show me, in the GUI source code or in the SQL code, where resource quality and experimentation on baseline components have NO effect. Hell I'll even settle for a Developer's statement that this is true.

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Message Edited by Pallida on 04-20-2004 01:47 PM

Sorry Pallida, I know it gets you upset, sorry. But you could show us the opposite also. Make your tests and what not then report your findings.

See if your droids with Max Experimented Motivators keep up with you and your speeder.

Test to see if your droid with a 100% Experimented Brain is as smart as an Advanced Brain.

Or testing to see if your droid can target a mob faster with your Sensor.

Because when they get put in the final combine of the droid they don't add anything to the final droid's experimentation only the raw resources matter.

By the way this is not a flame. I just disagree with you on this point.

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MachineZed wrote:

Sorry Pallida, I know it gets you upset, sorry. But you could show us the opposite also. Make your tests and what not then report your findings.

See if your droids with Max Experimented Motivators keep up with you and your speeder.

Test to see if your droid with a 100% Experimented Brain is as smart as an Advanced Brain.

Or testing to see if your droid can target a mob faster with your Sensor.

Because when they get put in the final combine of the droid they don't add anything to the final droid's experimentation only the raw resources matter.

By the way this is not a flame. I just disagree with you on this point.

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Kollos wrote:

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Pallida wrote:

My challenge remains open... Prove it with factual documentation.. i.e.: Show me, in the GUI source code or in the SQL code, where resource quality and experimentation on baseline components have NO effect. Hell I'll even settle for a Developer's statement that this is true.

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ROFLMAO.

It's virtually impossible to prove a negative. The burdon is on you to prove the opposite - that experimentation DOES matter. All you need to do is find one data point to prove your case, whereas you're asking us to prove that the one data point does not exist.

Until you can prove that it DOES matter, I'll remain convinced that it has no effect at all. I have seen lots of tests attempting to prove that it does matter, but none of them have ever yielded a statistically significant result.

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Ah yes.. the inevitable claim of "statistical analysis"... and what is the baseline that was used for comparison? There had to be a baseline in order to prove one thing over another.Any first-yearscience major should confirm this. So.... what was used? Did the testers manufacture their own baseline? hmmm????

heh... actually.. if the truth be told, all I need is something that the developers will not release... the source code.. It is the definitive proof... and until that is released, your statements and beliefs carry no weight... It is all subjective. If you go to the trouble to ask any college professor or any professional research scientist, he or she willtell you the same.Go ahead.. indulge me and ask someone thatperforms scientific research for a living.Just be sure to include his/her name and telephone number when you reply... I'll want to verify your discussion.

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Message Edited by Pallida on 04-20-2004 03:07 PM

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Pallida wrote:

/sigh

SNIP

[edit] SUCCESS! The One Star Bandit strikes.. and says nothing... I Have done my job.. and I have done it well. - Pallida -

Message Edited by Pallida on 04-20-2004 01:47 PM

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That was me.

I one star all your trolling posts, especially those that seem to be for attention-getting purposes only. Have ever since your troll post in the pit droid thread where you burbled garbage about your personal, hideously wrong definition of "depreciation". (Keep your day job and stop pretending to be an accountant. It makes us real accountants cranky, and makes you even more irritating than usual).

Furthermore, as the above poster pointed out, it is impossible to prove a negative, as you well should have known from paying attention in even a 100 level logic class. The burden is on you to show a probable trend by using 99% experimented set of EMM's and EGP's in Arakyds and compare them to 10 or 18% unexperimented subcomps in other runs of arakyds.

You should do a minimum of 10 tests for each and note if there is a significant/any difference in the following:

1. Charges

2. Failure Rate (eaten by space slugs, meteorite hit, etc)

3. Speed

IF you notice and record actual changes in this series of test, then you have a possible reason to question experimentation. Until that point, you are simply posting trolls, and are contributing nothing but rants to the discussions. Remember - the burden is on you to show that experimentation DOES make a difference from non-experimented items.

Furthermore, the GUI code has nothing to do with experimentation. :rolleyes: Quit bandying random terms that you do not fully understand. It's irritating and it's not at all helpful, since you are pretending expertise. Also, work on your people skills buddy.