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Thread: Pertinent stuff from the chat

GnomeAd
Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:18 pm
#1


KeldarinSo I hope everyone has been enjoying the new Combat Droids in the lastest Publish, Droid Invasion. We have even more planned for the upcomming publish with additional droid modules to add lots of new utility and fun functionality to brings droids even more to the forefront of the SWG Universe.


THAlso, the Live Events team has been running some great live events with the droids in many cities.


Brannoc*Ryu_KnT* what kind of droids are in the works? and about the rumor of the Droid Handler class, is it possible or just rumor?


BlairWe are discussing a lot of options for the droid commander. We have floated a lot of ideas by the community but I don't think we've come up with what the "right" solution is. We want to get high level combat droids into the game for you, but not unbalance what we have.


Brannoc*Shiggins* Hi Devs , Just Wondering How Many New Driods do we Expect is Publish 8 if any?


RunesabrePublish 8 will see the introduction of several new and interesting droid utility modules. We also have some new droids coming up in some of the new adventures we are developing.


HadenThe "blastromech" you've seen in the newsletter will be showing up eventually as part of a dungeon.


Brannoc*Llith* how often will these invasions happen and where can they take place? like the one in theed last night


THWith regards to the "Droid Invasion" live events, we have have run the event at least once on each server. We are continuing through the weekend. You can check the official site and the Live Events forums for more info on Pex's events.


HadenWe'll also try to "automate" all successful events, like the droid invasion live event.


HadenIn the Imperial Crackdown, for example, we took a live event that was very well-received and added it to the game as a scripted event.


Brannoc*puddy* Hi, with the implementation of the Droid Invasion, many DE's feel cheated. The "combat droids" are much lower than BE'd pets, and more or less useless in all but the lowest level combat, what can you say to the DE's that are dropping the profession because they feel let down ? Thanks


KeldarinWe know that level 10 BE pets are still overpowered. We are still trying to tweak the power levels of the low level cloned pets.


KeldarinThe goal is to get the droids to be comparable in power to those cloned pets.


KeldarinSituationally they will have different advantages but neither should be straight out better than the other.


Brannoc·Dhashian· Are there any plans to restore the Probot medium armour, because right now it has no tanking abilities, which is the main point of the combat droids.


RunesabreIn order to maintain the proper combat balance of the game, it was necessary to reduce the probot armor to appropriate levels. The current probot armor was akin to what a level 150 creature would have.


Brannoc*Valeria* When are there going to be new player controlled droids added to the game?


BlairWe have plans to implement new droid modules for the next publish. Additionally our art team is hard at work on new droids. We rolled out additional combat droids wiht publish 7 that you will see in a few weeks.


BlairWith each publish more droids will be released.


Brannoc·K[r]u|aw|· Have you ever considered addind some kind of looted or quest rewarded droid components/modules that could bring the droids up par to, let's say a Bio-Engineered non-ch pet ?


BlairWe really want to add additional high level combat droids to the game. It's fun, it's Starwars, and I love the idea of having a droid in combat.


BlairThe key thing is to make sure we aren't unbalancing the game as a result.


BlairJust handing high level combat droids to players, even on a limited basis, wouldn't be a good idea.

Message Edited by GnomeAd on 03-18-2004 08:23 PM

Javac
Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:32 pm
#2

"Blair We are discussing a lot of options for the droid commander. We have floated a lot of ideas by the community [...]"

Boy, I sure must have missed all these idea posts somehow. /sarcasm off

I'm glad they took the time to answer a bunch of droid questions. Unfortunately, it didn't seem like there was any real useful information, or any understanding that most players view the invasion as a flop as far as droids go.



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Malitevv
Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:47 pm
#3

The answer to the "when will there be more player controlled droids added to the game" question was interesting.


He said that they added new droids to the game in publish 7 that will appear in a couple of weeks. Does anybody think he's saying we will see new player controlled droids in a couple of weeks? Because that's technically, what he said, given the context of the question he was answering. Somehow, I don't think so.





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Virtanis
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:21 pm
#4

"HadenThe "blastromech" you've seen in the newsletter will be showing up eventually as part of a dungeon."



...in the "Frankendroid" Publish,scheduled for P9.






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SiameseFluff
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:47 pm
#5

Is this insane?


They said they are giving us new droids?


HAVE THEY NOT NOTICED WE DON'T WANT TO SEE NEW DROIDS AROUND THE SOE FORSAKEN UNIVERSE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CRAFT NEW DROIDS?????


Because from what I just read...they seem to think that by adding new droids for us to not control means that its a droid invasion and that they are doing their part to help us DEs.


Oh yeah, thanks. You want to know how many times I've had to explain to other players that there are no new droids coming to maybe patch 9 if we're lucky and we're never going to have droidekas because us DEs are meant to suffer?


Not giving upbeing a DE...I just wish they'd fix the BE pets right now so that way people WOULD buy droids just so they could have two pets to play with. Because right now...I'm only doing semi sales..




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Arnwald
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:53 pm
#6

About the new droids I'm pretty sure they are talking about new NPC droids.


This chat session is the worst they ever had it is full of misinformation.


They are telling they love droids and are adding a lot and let people think they could play them...


Well I think some politicians could hire SOE team to help them.


They are doing a good job at not lying but making people think what they want to think.

TheRealTK421
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:58 pm
#7






Arnwald wrote:


About the new droids I'm pretty sure they are talking about new NPC droids.




Yup. I think he was referring to the new NPC mobs that are coming in the Corvette dungeon (and attacking some Live cities).


/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


TheRealTK421
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:08 pm
#8






GnomeAd wrote:



Brannoc*puddy* Hi, with the implementation of the Droid Invasion, many DE's feel cheated. The "combat droids" are much lower than BE'd pets, and more or less useless in all but the lowest level combat, what can you say to the DE's that are dropping the profession because they feel let down ? Thanks


KeldarinWe know that level 10 BE pets are still overpowered. We are still trying to tweak the power levels of the low level cloned pets.


KeldarinThe goal is to get the droids to be comparable in power to those cloned pets.


KeldarinSituationally they will have different advantages but neither should be straight out better than the other.



What I took away from this is that our combat CL droid power/level is correct but its the BE creatures that are out of whack. At some future point, this will obviously be corrected. Then, we will be on a more level playing field in terms of a combat market.

However, they ARE supposed to be (by design) for lower-level players. They aren't designed to be used in higher-level combat situations.




Brannoc
·Dhashian· Are there any plans to restore the Probot medium armour, because right now it has no tanking abilities, which is the main point of the combat droids.


RunesabreIn order to maintain the proper combat balance of the game, it was necessary to reduce the probot armor to appropriate levels. The current probot armor was akin to what a level 150 creature would have.



Hmmm...that sounds like respectable armor to me (but I'm not a combat 'nut').



/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


Shian_Tavkin
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:20 pm
#9






TheRealTK421 wrote:





Arnwald wrote:


About the new droids I'm pretty sure they are talking about new NPC droids.




Yup. I think he was referring to the new NPC mobs that are coming in the Corvette dungeon (and attacking some Live cities).


/bow

Respectfully,









Right TK ---------thats bloody well enough horseshi*t from the Devs, are they high on marketing crack or something?


Probot AR2 is a level 150 pet ? Bull

Droid invasion is all about live events and dungeons? Bull


Do we have to swallow this total lying about them 'floating lots of new ideas by us' - Man they have floated absolutely nothing, nothing at all..in fact I dont think they know how to 'float an idea', they just leave it up to us to have ideas that they shoot down as fast as they come up.


Sodan's plan is now the ONLY floating idea..and they say nothing about it.


Can you tell I am getting mad over this? - - - - - - - Pass that damn valium, lets all have some.


Better still, lets go the whole hog and issue heroin, its about the only substance I ever heard about that would make this mess 'seem alright'


Sort them out TK..just sort them out.







Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Arnwald
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:21 pm
#10






TheRealTK421 wrote:



RunesabreIn order to maintain the proper combat balance of the game, it was necessary to reduce the probot armor to appropriate levels. The current probot armor was akin to what a level 150 creature would have.



Hmmm...that sounds like respectable armor to me (but I'm not a combat 'nut').

Well as I writed in the main forum point me a level 150 creature with 1k ham...






/bow

Respectfully,

Well TK you are trying to do a good job but the chat log was full of crap and misinformation.


They did the same thing as they did in the wallpaper.

I hope you can keep some faith, because after the patch 7 and this chat I have none.


and let me /bow deeply to you showing us faith in the non worthy







TheRealTK421
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:39 pm
#11






Shian_Tavkin wrote:


Probot AR2 is a level 150 pet ? Bull


So...you're saying he lied? Seriously? You think he'd just make up a number?!?


Droid invasion is all about live events and dungeons? Bull



I'm starting to think that "Invasion" was just a horribly selected marketing name. Just like the Imperial "Crackdown" (in which, for a period of weeks, I was never once scanned, much less hassled in any way).

By 'invasion', it's pretty clear that was meant be a droid-centric themed publish (the first of 2). It will get better...



Do we have to swallow this total lying about them 'floating lots of new ideas by us' - Man they have floated absolutely nothing, nothing at all..in fact I dont think they know how to 'float an idea', they just leave it up to us to have ideas that they shoot down as fast as they come up.


I seem to remember a post where they had talked about the ideas they had had and they had decided that a new profession seemed to be the "best" overall answer to CL10+ droids. I guess that's what Blair must have meant...


Sodan's plan is now the ONLY floating idea..and they say nothing about it.


They do to me.

I'm seeing now that the CL10+ droids 'thing' is a tough nut to crack. Seriously. We are struggling with it and they are too. I got a pretty good "breakdown" done on me by one of the Devs.

They are more considerate of this issue than some of you probably think. We need to cut them a bit of slack (actually, a lot) if we are to move forward in the best possible way.

I know some of you want to see me 'throw down' on them more...but I already know that we've tried that in the past. And it didn't work. I'm just getting my legs under me on all this, so let's give it a bit o' time.



Can you tell I am getting mad over this? - - - - - - - Pass that damn valium, lets all have some.


You? Upset? NEVER!

I know its frustrating, Shian. No one knows better than I. I can only request that you work with me a bit and trust that I'd do (and am doing, behind the scenes) what appears to be best for the DEs.



Sort them out TK..just sort them out.


I'm a' trying...but they are pretty sharp.

(...and I thought I could 'break-it-down'? I think I was wrong. )




/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


TheOrb
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:40 pm
#12








Brannoc*puddy* Hi, with the implementation of the Droid Invasion, many DE's feel cheated. The "combat droids" are much lower than BE'd pets, and more or less useless in all but the lowest level combat, what can you say to the DE's that are dropping the profession because they feel let down ? Thanks


KeldarinWe know that level 10 BE pets are still overpowered. We are still trying to tweak the power levels of the low level cloned pets.




Eh? CL 10 overpowered? Do the BE's know are getting a nerf? I would much rather see droids (and cloned pets) beefed up a little so they are equal, and helpful in combat.





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Shian_Tavkin
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:49 pm
#13






TheRealTK421 wrote:





Shian_Tavkin wrote:


Probot AR2 is a level 150 pet ? Bull


So...you're saying he lied? Seriously? You think he'd just make up a number?!?





YES I am saying he lied YES ok



The best thing he could do to recover any respect is get his arse in here and explain why he believes this nonsense.


Somewhere they have a major bug in the pet evaluation process, cos I have tried allsorts with my shiny new Probot, and I can tell you it is NOT CL10 or even close.



Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
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