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Thread: crafting stations in droids

Uberdag
Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:16 pm
#1

Oks so i slave away on Adv Probots and R4's to get to Adv R2's and cluster modules only to make one and then not have the all the crafting modules work.


I read at one point i thought that multi crafting modules work just not in the cluster module.


Can somone Help me!


I also put in an Adv R4 unit a food, weapon, clothing. The weapon one was the only one to work. So am I fooked or is everyone now?


Thanks,


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CastorStablescraper
Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:31 pm
#2

Everyone is hosed. Some reports say that one in the cluster and one in a normal slot will work.



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Kamaru
Sun Sep 07, 2003 11:21 pm
#3

This seems to fluctuate from patch to patch.. Granted latley it has seemed to level out (becuase they are not making changes at all to us ) But the last I heard, one station only on a droid will work..
BigfootKC
Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:34 am
#4

I heard that crafting station rating only affects the assembly roll.

Is this true? is the exp roll purely determined by chance?

what is the rating of a droid crafting station? it doesnt list any.



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AmazonSting
Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:17 am
#5


Crafting station rating affects both the assembly roll and the exp roll.


All droid crafting station mods have a rating of 0.00

Message Edited by AmazonSting on 08-02-2005 07:17 PM



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Corran950
Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:38 am
#6



No Droid crafting stations count as a null. meaning that the droids station will not help or hurt your crafting in any way, only your tools effectiveness counts.


If the droids station acted as a 0 rated station, no crafter would use it cause the chances of good experiment results would be far and few between.


Message Edited by Corran950 on 08-02-2005 02:42 PM



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Straker_Atrella
Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:24 pm
#7

Ok to clear up some points on this, everything being said about Droid crafting stations being null is true. Yet relating them to crafting stations does get complicated.


Not all Private rafting stations will help you, lower rated ones will actually hurt you. I "think" 30 is the breaking point, but it's been a long time. Meaning less then 30 hurts, more then 30 helps.


Now assuming that the 30 number I am saying is correct, that means "sorta" that your Droid crafting station is equal to a 30 crafting station.


So if you have a station less then 30, use a Droid, more then 30, use the station. Honestly, with the resources on servers now, there should be no reason you can't find a station over 40 to use. If you need too, work a deal supplying Droid storage compartments to an Arch, and get stations for free.


I always use my station when quality matters, plus i store a ton of resources in it. I mostly use my Droid at my factories making schematics when quality doesn't matter.



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AmazonSting
Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:31 pm
#8






Straker_Atrella wrote:

Not all Private rafting stations will help you, lower rated ones will actually hurt you. I "think" 30 is the breaking point, but it's been a long time. Meaning less then 30 hurts, more then 30 helps.


Now assuming that the 30 number I am saying is correct, that means "sorta" that your Droid crafting station is equal to a 30 crafting station.


So if you have a station less then 30, use a Droid, more then 30, use the station. Honestly, with the resources on servers now, there should be no reason you can't find a station over 40 to use. If you need too, work a deal supplying Droid storage compartments to an Arch, and get stations for free.






This is just plain wrong.


In your terms... less than Zero (0.00)will hurt you & more than Zero will help you.


So... if your crafting station has anegative rating then use a droid, if it has a positive rating then use it in preference to your droid.



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Straker_Atrella
Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:40 pm
#9






AmazonSting wrote:






Straker_Atrella wrote:

Not all Private rafting stations will help you, lower rated ones will actually hurt you. I "think" 30 is the breaking point, but it's been a long time. Meaning less then 30 hurts, more then 30 helps.


Now assuming that the 30 number I am saying is correct, that means "sorta" that your Droid crafting station is equal to a 30 crafting station.


So if you have a station less then 30, use a Droid, more then 30, use the station. Honestly, with the resources on servers now, there should be no reason you can't find a station over 40 to use. If you need too, work a deal supplying Droid storage compartments to an Arch, and get stations for free.






This is just plain wrong.


In your terms... less than Zero (0.00)will hurt you & more than Zero will help you.


So... if your crafting station has anegative rating then use a droid, if it has a positive rating then use it in preference to your droid.






No, that's not what I am saying. I was just looknig for some old posts with the crafting formula and the breakdown, andI can't find them. I think Drashk hasinfo on this too.


30 (I think) is the Null point not 0.00 which is stupid I know. So whether you want to use your droid or not is based upon your stations rating over or above 30.


So if it's rating is 28 us a droid for example, if it is say 35, use the station. The bad thing is that this is pretty much impossible to prove. So just get a good station, then use that when quality matters.





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AmazonSting
Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:53 pm
#10






Straker_Atrella wrote:





AmazonSting wrote:






Straker_Atrella wrote:

Not all Private rafting stations will help you, lower rated ones will actually hurt you. I "think" 30 is the breaking point, but it's been a long time. Meaning less then 30 hurts, more then 30 helps.


Now assuming that the 30 number I am saying is correct, that means "sorta" that your Droid crafting station is equal to a 30 crafting station.


So if you have a station less then 30, use a Droid, more then 30, use the station. Honestly, with the resources on servers now, there should be no reason you can't find a station over 40 to use. If you need too, work a deal supplying Droid storage compartments to an Arch, and get stations for free.






This is just plain wrong.


In your terms... less than Zero (0.00)will hurt you & more than Zero will help you.


So... if your crafting station has anegative rating then use a droid, if it has a positive rating then use it in preference to your droid.






No, that's not what I am saying. I was just looknig for some old posts with the crafting formula and the breakdown, andI can't find them. I think Drashk hasinfo on this too.


30 (I think) is the Null point not 0.00 which is stupid I know. So whether you want to use your droid or not is based upon your stations rating over or above 30.


So if it's rating is 28 us a droid for example, if it is say 35, use the station. The bad thing is that this is pretty much impossible to prove. So just get a good station, then use that when quality matters.







That's the point I'm trying to make, the idea that a droid crafting module is equivalent to a 30.00 crafting station is simply wrong.


All droid crafting stations have a rating of 0.00, exactly the same as the public crafting stations although they don't show their ratings when you examine them as they used to.


Whoever came up with the idea that 30.00 is "Null" has just taken the full range of possible ratings for private Architect built crafting stations, that being -15.00 to +45.00 andtaken the mid-point(30.00) which they percieve as null, this is wrong & as I've already said the devs have stated that all droid crafting mods are rated the same as thepublic crafting stations you see in NPC towns, ie: 0.00.


The idea that a droid crafting mod (where the quality if materials is entirey irellevant) can be anywhere near as good as a 30.00 crafting station where material quality does count is nonesense. I personally build both being both Archi & DE so I have no bias here.


One day they may fix DE crafting mods but until then they're all rated Zero.



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Straker_Atrella
Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:02 pm
#11

A public crafting station and a droids are totally different. At a Public crafting station, you don't get all possible schematics. With a Droid you get all schematics, just like at a private crafting station. When you talk about the rating, you will see that a droid is a lot better then a public crafting station. Again I can't find the post, but people did like 100 crafts using a droid and using a public 0.00 station. The Droid was better.


This wasn't information that somebody just made it, people actually used the crafting formula and looked at the numbers. According to the formula 30 is the breakpoint.


Plus hitting 30 on crafting stations isn't exactly hard, once you learn to use good stuff on the subcomponants, as an arch with no trouble at all, I hit 43.



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AmazonSting
Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:06 pm
#12

Theres the obvious difference that droid mods act as private stations and give access to schems that the public stations don't & no it isn't hard to hit 30.00, my stations are the best on my server at 44.09 but none of that changes the fact that the devs have stated that droid mods are rated the same as public crafting stations... Zero.



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Straker_Atrella
Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:10 pm
#13

I think I remember the post that you are talking about, I wishI could find it. I'm pretty sure that Dev was corrected though.


Well anyway, it's a moot point. Use a station when quality matters.



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