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Raise your buff prices.

Doctors Union Sounds good to me but unfortunatly it only takes 1 doctor to set the econmey off.

I just started buffing now actually ( im working my crafting tree so im not master yet but my advertisement SAYS im not master) and a master doc came on and started hers. I was charingin 4k - yes im loosing money slowly here but i bought all my packs in advance and i just needed some quick cash to buy my next load of lokian wheat and fiberplast - shes yelling 10k for buffs- and she notices mine i guess cause next round its down to 9k... meanwhile everyones running over to me and the /tips starting to flow! She gives me a tell you **edit** stealing my buisness undercutting me- i talked to a lot of doctors and thus far the consesus is charge what u want- or ask for what u can get but i decided 5k would be my price for the first month or so- see how i fare. So then i figure well im not master so ill do 4k... til master. She was charging 10k. Sure they might be uber buffs but as some people say time is > power.

anway my point is i drove all the docs out of coronet- i wasnt trying too- but people wanted them cheap and fast i guess ( holo gridners teheh) thats my story. It only takes 1 that says i mselling for 5k and u catn stop me and they suck up teh buisness. Its all about reputation too though- when i needed buffs before this id ALWAYS check friends list first and heck i took trips to where they were for the good buffs- knew i wasnt going to get screwed ,etc. If you try to drive up the market and it fails- you lost your customers

good luck though i think its fair but make sure that everyone that says " sounds good" does turn around and undercut ya

You are very right on that. My buffs hit 3k. So do a few docs that posted in my thread. That is why we raised it. I am lucky because I am known for my meds and buffs on my server. I was charging 5k and getting tipped 10k to 15k since the buffs were so good. So I thought to myself might as well make it the price.

Figure out a way to make them hit 3k every time and you'll be able to demand any price you want :-)

As long as there's another master doc next to youusing 850+ packs, fixing the prices isn't going to work. It's hard to demand a premium for good buff packs when packs over 900 will still drop a <1k buff every once in a while. The customer has no idea how good your packs are, they just know what they get buffed for. I get tipped too when I deliver a good set but I can't replicate it on demand, so I set my base price at market level.

I just want to say that asking 10k for a full set of master doc buffs is entirely worth it and completely acceptable. In my limited experience selling master buffs for 10k for all 6 stats, I've only had one person ask for the price and then choose not to buy. Anyone who says that 10k is too high is a combat profession who doesn't understand what is takes to make these buff packs. And any doctors who claim that they don't think buffs should be priced that high either have a combat profession as their secondary or are part of some guild where they can get their resources for cheap or even for free. I am one of the former being close to a master carbineer. However, for the type of results a master doc's buffs can yield, 10k is a small price to pay. Fully buffed, I can make 10k through combat means in mere minutes. Basically what I'm saying is that I fully support any efforts to try to make 10k the standard price for master level buffs and while there will always be undercutting, as it is a reality of life, to those doctors who value their time and effort spent in harvesting and making these packs, I recommend that you stop selling yourself short and get what I think you have earned. Most purchasers of my product are happy to pay, leave happy with the results, and return happy to pay again. And one last thing. I harvest ALL of my own ingredients, including avian meat. And while in doing that I can avoid paying insane prices for others to harvest meat for me, it does not mean that the meat just falls into my lap. Good avian meat (900+ on OQ PE and DR) is hard to find, and when it does become available on any given planet, due to doctors needing to spend 15 skill points on novice artisan so they can survey resources, I don't have any skill points to spend past novice scout on any form of hunting. This means that my meat unit yield per kill is lower than most hunters and therefore my pile of meat increases slowly. So getting the avian meat in the quantities needed isn't as easy as some combat classes think it is. Just me voicing my opinion here folks and there it is.

The main thing about charging more than the standard 5 or 6k is that the buffs aren't guaranteed to last 3 hours, I have given people buffs only to have them come back for another set 10 minutes later. Stuff happens, a lot of people don't have or want to spend 10k for a good set of buffs just to get incapped and slayed for mind.

And honestly.. how much does it REALLY cost to make the packs.. I spent a total of 280k for all the medium ber 10 harvesters I needed. I can get 500 herbivore meat in one piket mission, along with 10k, and I only have hunting 1. I can go to yavin and get decent enough avian meat to make 800+ 11k duration packs at almost the same rate.Just doing the piket missions for the herbivore alone payed for all my harvesters. I would be surprised if a 800 power 11k duration 20 charge health enhance costs me more than 200 credits to make.

it doesn't work i tried that on my server forum most doctors would use their own schemes rathere than fix prices. my price is flat 1k per stat using 880-900/30-31/11600~ but i usually get more:

it mostly depend on who i'm enhancing , most people tip me 10k regularly, some 8k regularly,one tip me20k regularly, another about 15k. I just tell people 6k is the minimum i'll enhance for. and i don't give my friends a hard time if they forget to pay because of lack of funds or something.

i did the math of enhance packs already the profit margin is very high reguardless of what you pay for your resources. it cost about 3.3k per atempt using price scheme you showed, if you are making crates maybe 3.5-4k per pack . if you make singles 10k for a decent enhance isn't unthinkable. that means each enhance charge cost you between 133-200 credits so you are making 5 to 7.5 times your costs. but anyways you may only raise prices for your time maybe.

some sugestions :

- pick a price scheme and stick to it.
- have consistant enhances on duration aspecially.
- when nice resource pop go into hog mode
- make crates of enhance packs and experimentadv bio for charges (saves time/resources/money)
- cooperate with other doctors on your server you may sometimes need to exchange info and favors with them.
-get a good reputation

Well this is happening to my server so I hafta either support it or not, and I guess I will support it although I never really sold buffs.

I am not sure how fair this is to comsumer tho' to say things are flat 2k no matter what.

I think it is nicer if the price are 1cr per 1pt of buff, upto 2k for any one stat and upto 10k for any one set of buffs.

That way if you give pretty crummy buff, you get pretty crummy money, maybe not even above 5-6k. If your buff packs are nice and you do good buffs, then you will always get your 10k.

I find that I am oftenthe only Master Doc around. They will pay 10k if you tell them those are your prices. They may blow you off and tell you it's too much and another doc charges less. Simply tell them to go find that doc.

If your packs have power over 800, you shouldn't be charging the same as the Master Doc who just started buffing 3 days ago with power 630 packs. It's entirely up to you of course. You can turn a profit selling for 3k for all 6 stats.

But here's the trick. If you take that 50k you earned buffing at the starport for an hour, and instead go do a few missions. You'll make more by doing missions. And your customers can make 20-40% more money on their missions because they can do so many more missions in the two or three hours their buffs last.

Blue-Quick

Ahh...I always like these threads as they get me good and irritated.

Why on God's green earth people charge less than 10k for a full set of buffs, I'll never know. I couldn't even begin to tell you the amount of time and money I've spent tracking down HQ resources, painstakingly piece-mealing together the best buff packs I can muster. Non-Doctors have no concept of the time/money requirements to get up to Master Doc. And the crafting! My God, the crafting! I still get nightmares about it.

I charge no less than 10k for a full set, 2k per individual stat. All of the packs that I make/use are a minimum base level of 850. While I cannot guarantee good hits everytime, it is not unusual to get 1-2 buffs for over 3k in a session, with my average buff being around 2200-2800 (plus or minus). I made a small /reply macro so that all people getthat information in exactly thesame format.

Have I had people not pay? Sure. Kind of funny, some guy was in Coronet asking me why I charged so much. I usally go into "Jerk Mode" and ignore them, but I humored them and was telling them of the aforementioned time/money requirements to get consistently better buffs than other doctors around. So I talked to him for *maybe* 4-5 minutes, and after all of the explaining he finally told me that "I was just plain charging too much and that, while he had lots of money, he would never pay that much for a buff", calling me a couple of names, etc. Being a general pain in the ass. So I told him that it was his choice, but that in the time I was talking to him, I made 70,000 in buff money. I then gave him the names of 2 guys I just recently buffed to have him ask if the prices were worth it. So about 2 minutes later, he comes to find me and says that he talked to them and changed his mind and wants buffed since I was apparently the only Doctor around at the time. So I told him that due to my recent "Jerk Tax" being levied, prices had gone up to 16k. Oh, what a sweet moment to see that tip money come across the screen. However, for that price I also hit a record and got 3 of his stats for over 3k, sohe was pleased with the results and I was pleased that he had to eat his words.

I've gotten a prettysteady list of people on my server (Wanderhome) that must have me on their favorites, because everytime I log on I get tells asking for me specifically because I have good buffs. I don't think 10k is at all unreasonable to ask.

My normal Price is 10k per full set. When people come to me in cities and med centers. If I get a /tell asking for a buff on a hunt. 15k if they come to me, and Ill come to them for 20k. And They complain....and then they ask for a waypoint. When you need a buff you need a buff. Might as well be giving the **edit** things away if we're gonna do it for under 10k

I've been trying to get other docs to try out my pricing scheme. Charge 1cr per point buffed, tipped after each one. I normally give the 6th one for free (much like 2k per stat, 10k for all). They pay well for good buffs, pay a bit less for crappier ones. Simple, effective, and they pay for quality.

I too am sick of cheap buffers... What actually upsets me is people who pst me and yell about my prices...

If I'm on Dant and the Nhc packs I'm using cost a lot to make or took a long time to produce because I had to harverst myself, the buffs go for 10k for a set.

Then some REAL newbie doctor goes and says why do your buffs cost so much... They "yell" it! then they start asking questions like whats your base, do you wear med nhc clothes, you know med nhc clothes max out at 25 silly n00b.

Well I'm sorry but I like to wear outfits not just some out of place single enhanced piece of cloth so I wear an entire outfit.

I still offer my buffs to guildmates for free or cheap to friendly guilds. Thats only fair since they help me get resources or protect me when it counts.

By all means ask 10k for a set of buffs. Its worth it. Especially if your buffs are frequently over 1000 and sometimes hit 3000 for over 2.5 hours.

My base is typically 851/10423 or so.
My good packs are 903/12431. Lately all I've been able to get is the 851's and they cost more than the 903's.

Doctors unite and support each other don't try to out compete each other. There's plenty of a business for buffs!

Bryno Naturi
Eclipse Master Doc/Novice CH