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Thread: Is it just me or does the CU sould like the destruction of DOCs and CMs?

Mr_Beeblebrox
Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:41 pm
#1


The more I read about the CU I get more and more furstrated. The current plans, for witch I understand, reduces the buffs to almost nothing, allow everyone to heal damage with anyone useable stim packs, and only haveing one wound pack anymore. From what I am gathering the only thing left for a doctor to do is make some buffs that most people will not use becouse they can heal themselves now and make stim packs for sale. Talk about the life. (trues to remove the distaste from my mouth.) I have been a Master doctor since the second week of the game. I have stated that I would never go Jedi becouse I didn't want to give up doctor or CM, however I never forsaw the destruction of my Profession. I hope the CU is not as bad as they made it sound.
MyT_Chicken
Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:47 pm
#2

Look around, there are over 500 posts on the first page about the CU....and almost all of them end in a "We don't know" Response. And for good reason because we don't know.




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SantosL
Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:47 pm
#3

I think that the CU is quite the opposite.

In terms of the stims players were using, I'd find it hard to imagine that they will compare to the types of stims a Doctor or Combat medic could use, especially if they are used without any injury treatment-type skills from medic. Combat is going to be more group-based for upper level content, which will require a dedicated healer.

If you've been a Doc since the second week of the game, you might remember the early Krayt hunts, or Nightsisters, etc. back in the time before high power buffs and 80% composite was the norm. This revamp should bring the gameplay back to a similar setup to the old days, where Docs were running around healing and rez'ing and a core part of the group.



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UmmonPrime
Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:54 pm
#4

They are going to push people like me out of the game. People that don't have hours and hours to play when they find time. It takes an hour just to organize a group and I don't have time for that. I won't even be able to use my doc it feels like, so I will be getting BE so I can at least make things as a doc.



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kingfat
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:09 pm
#5






UmmonPrime wrote:

They are going to push people like me out of the game. People that don't have hours and hours to play when they find time. It takes an hour just to organize a group and I don't have time for that. I won't even be able to use my doc it feels like, so I will be getting BE so I can at least make things as a doc.






that was down fall for eq2 for me even in a guild with 50members, find a group 10-15min, decide what to kill 10min, kill, 5min later GTG ok, we need a tank, Blah never ending



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DoctorGriggs
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:21 pm
#6



Mr_Beeblebrox wrote:
The more I read about the CU I get more and more furstrated. The current plans, for witch I understand, reduces the buffs to almost nothing, allow everyone to heal damage with anyone useable stim packs, and only haveing one wound pack anymore. From what I am gathering the only thing left for a doctor to do is make some buffs that most people will not use becouse they can heal themselves now and make stim packs for sale. Talk about the life. (trues to remove the distaste from my mouth.) I have been a Master doctor since the second week of the game. I have stated that I would never go Jedi becouse I didn't want to give up doctor or CM, however I never forsaw the destruction of my Profession. I hope the CU is not as bad as they made it sound.





Umm, doctors and CM's will be more useful as healers now than ever before.

And as for the stims anyone can use, I am guessing they are going to be crappy like 100 a heal or something.

As a doctor since July 2003 I have never been so excited to be a doctor/CM.

I miss being NEEDED. For the past year+ my profession has been marginalized into AFK buff-bots and I don't want that. I want to be a HEALER.



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MyT_Chicken
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:24 pm
#7






DoctorGriggs wrote:





Mr_Beeblebrox wrote:


The more I read about the CU I get more and more furstrated. The current plans, for witch I understand, reduces the buffs to almost nothing, allow everyone to heal damage with anyone useable stim packs, and only haveing one wound pack anymore. From what I am gathering the only thing left for a doctor to do is make some buffs that most people will not use becouse they can heal themselves now and make stim packs for sale. Talk about the life. (trues to remove the distaste from my mouth.) I have been a Master doctor since the second week of the game. I have stated that I would never go Jedi becouse I didn't want to give up doctor or CM, however I never forsaw the destruction of my Profession. I hope the CU is not as bad as they made it sound.







Umm, doctors and CM's will be more useful as healers now than ever before.

And as for the stims anyone can use, I am guessing they are going to be crappy like 100 a heal or something.

As a doctor since July 2003 I have never been so excited to be a doctor/CM.

I miss being NEEDED. For the past year+ my profession has been marginalized into AFK buff-bots and I don't want that. I want to be a HEALER.






/cheer


That was so heart touching! And exactly how I feel.





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Vindu
Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:26 pm
#8

I have spend over 60mil on avian meat, and now this! I never get my mony back!!! So I hope the new stims are good so I can make mony selling them!



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Marrow1
Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:41 pm
#9






DoctorGriggs wrote:




Umm, doctors and CM's will be more useful as healers now than ever before.

And as for the stims anyone can use, I am guessing they are going to be crappy like 100 a heal or something.

As a doctor since July 2003 I have never been so excited to be a doctor/CM.

I miss being NEEDED. For the past year+ my profession has been marginalized into AFK buff-bots and I don't want that. I want to be a HEALER.




I worry that doc will become even more of a bot. Think entertainer. If we can enhance, tend wounds, etc without meds then there is no reason there will not be a AFK doc bot in every cantina, right next to the entertainer.


If your going out to hunt why would you be both a doc and a CM and not just a CM?






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Obata
Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:55 pm
#10

I wish I could share your optimism, Griggs. From where I'm standing, I can't even see thrilled. Ability based healing without components, and giving medical skills to all combatants are game breaking changes for me.



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Puck_Starfire
Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:12 pm
#11

All this will do will separate the Doctors from the Buffers. All the Doctors who picked up Doctor to "get rich quick" off of the buff craze, will drop it again. And what's left are the real Doctors. I'm excited. I have never advertised buffs. I have buffed people IF they've asked me to, at a low fee. I have never made a single buffpack. I have however healed more people than I can recall and GIVEN away hundreds of thousands of credits in medpacks and stims.

Doctor is about healing people, not being rich. Even in RL, if you go to the ER they treat you first, ask for money later.
Puck_Starfire
Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:15 pm
#12

As far as getting rid of bots.... REMOVE RECURSIVE MACROS. You remove the ability to loop a macro, you remove 100% of Entbots and Buffbots and AFK Grinders. Result: you have to actually play the game to level. People argue that people will quit. They don't quit any other game that does not allow recursive macros. Trust me, while they're AFK in SWG, they're actively grinding their butts off in another game that does not allow looping macros.
eeseigeameo
Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:34 pm
#13

Funny you can claim to be a doctor and claim others aren't? I really doubt in RL money isn't a factor for most people going through medical school. I say that those doctors who sat in spaceports buffing the masses are just as much a doctor as those who craft medical supplies are doctors and are just as much a doctor as you are.

"I have buffed people IF they've asked me to, at a low fee. I have never made a single buffpack. I have however healed more people than I can recall and GIVEN away hundreds of thousands of credits in medpacks and stims." --bragging? don't think your high and mighty because you choose to play that way. I have not charged for buffs for a good 8 months AT ALL. I usually buff whoever asks if I'm not in a hurry to get somewhere and have given everything needed for many people to master doctor, medic or combat medic. I always heal people who are diseased even when they aren't asking for it. I have advertised that I am buffing in spaceports, usually when I've had some bivoli and dont want it to go to waste, but does that make me less of a doctor?

Doctor is about a profession that many people play in their own way, not something one person decides for the community. And in RL ER kinda treats you first cause if not you might die? and like you said they certainly do ask for MONEY later!

(no I wasn't trying to brag, I simply think you can't decide what is and isnt a doctor based on your "generosity" and was pointing out the fact you aren't above everyone else)

Message Edited by eeseigeameo on 03-25-2005 12:37 AM



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