Doctor Archive

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KingLuka wrote:

I've never understood this. I've been a MD for just under a year now, and I'm treated with a great deal of respect by the people I associate with. I am not, nor will I ever be a buff bot in Coronet. I play with mostly PvPr's and they know, as do most people that PvP, that a Doctor is your best friend.

Anyone can buy some packs and sit infront of the Cnet Starport spamming " 2300+ buffs, 3hr+ hr, 12k"

But it takes much more to be a full around doc. The people that are going to Buff Bots in Cnet/Theed/Bestine, aren't going to treat you with respect. Cause to them, you are just there, you will always be there, and since you are doing this for money, and they have money, you will always be there. You are a mission terminal to them. You are there and they will use you as such.

I'm not advocating these people, or excusing them. Just giving you a realistic view of how they look at you.

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The second paraagraph is why docs "don't get no respect". Why should anyone respect us when, within the profession, there are those trying very hard to marginalize the docs who CHOOSE to buff the public? This poster goes so far as to claim public buffers are not "full, all around doc(s)"! How does he know this? Just because it isn't his style of play? Maybe I like to make or buy my own buffs and earn my money buffing the public, why does that make you so superior to me?

IMHO what happens on-line resembles to a good extent what happens in the RW. Ask anyone who is in a service profession from REAL Doctors to waitresses. Not everyone is kind and understanding. Not everyone gives you a please and thank you. Not everyone thinks your prices are fair. Threads like this take one incident and blow them up to paint the entre SWG gaming populations aa rude and boorish 100% of the time. This opens the door for the holier-than-thou players to regurgitate thier tripe on how they NEVER buff the public and anyone who does is a lesser player.

Four stars to the original poster! Let's not become whiners second only to the Jedi Forum.

Captenjonny wrote:

The second paraagraph is why docs "don't get no respect". Why should anyone respect us when, within the profession, there are those trying very hard to marginalize the docs who CHOOSE to buff the public? This poster goes so far as to claim public buffers are not "full, all around doc(s)"! How does he know this? Just because it isn't his style of play? Maybe I like to make or buy my own buffs and earn my money buffing the public, why does that make you so superior to me?

IMHO what happens on-line resembles to a good extent what happens in the RW. Ask anyone who is in a service profession from REAL Doctors to waitresses. Not everyone is kind and understanding. Not everyone gives you a please and thank you. Not everyone thinks your prices are fair. Threads like this take one incident and blow them up to paint the entre SWG gaming populations aa rude and boorish 100% of the time. This opens the door for the holier-than-thou players to regurgitate thier tripe on how they NEVER buff the public and anyone who does is a lesser player.

Four stars to the original poster! Let's not become whiners second only to the Jedi Forum.

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Wow a constructive post, 1st ive seen. and good points too. /tiphat to cptjonney

As the original poster says of which i thought i was only one, we are looked upon as buff bots because all we do is yell buffing 23xx for xx etc...

I personally have a good chat with each one and a laugh, it helps pass the boredom and gets my buisness more known.

I dont sit there churning buff after buff for 2hrs without saying a word.

But i think a strike is a good idea just to get across to all that we are something more than buffing machines.

But not all docs read the forum here and not all doc are gonna go on strike.

But is the sorry to say this as doesnt apply to all but the "new breed" of docs that do the profession for money and money alone.

These are the guys who will charge over the normal pricing for pants buffs and get away with it, the guys who dont care about the profession just where the next million is coming from.

The tumbler made docs, the jedi wannabes this sort of doc is bad for the trade.

Anyway my 10 cents, as i dont have any change

"As the original poster says of which i thought i was only one, we are looked upon as buff bots because all we do is yell buffing 23xx for xx etc..."

Yes, when you say "all we do" you should amend that to "the only thing we can make money doing" which I think is much closer to the truth. When you veiw that every other profession is centered around selling somehting for money, or killing something for money, that doctors would want to do something for money should not surprise you. Also note that those who sell things for money do not make things that dont sell, and those who kill things for money, do not kill what gives a poor amount of credits.


"I've been a MD for longer than I can remember now, and I've been buffing the public long before it was popular. I have had maybe 3 unruly customers in my entire career."

This would be fairly easy to say, so long as you always give people what they want, they will be nice to you. If you wont however, it quickly becomes a whole different story. For example, when I am asked "u buffz?" I simply replay I do not sell buffs. Which I dont - I am only around a populated area when Im waiting to buff a PA member. I do not buff ANYONE for ANY amount of money, be it 10k or 500k. You would be surprised at the amount of hate tells this generates. About how I shouldnt be a doc, I dont know what bieng a doc is about, how docs are supposed to buff, or how I shouldnt wear my master doctor tag, or how I shouldnt stand in a starport ect. Its ridiculus.


"Players don't like paying 4 times as much as they were paying yesterday, simply because there's only one doc around to buff. Integrity plays a role here, as well."

Supply and demand does not only apply to regular crafters, it applies to docs as well.


"Docs who run on a macro, have no patient interaction, or respond to questions with short hurried answers are going to get less respect than those who treat their customers fairly."

If you have a line of 30 people and are checking emails and responding to 10 different tells at one time, there is nothing wrong with a concise answer, or not having an indepth conversation with someone. I dont have to tell people my life story to be polite and give them the information they need.



"If you look at them as something other than a pocketful of cash, they will look at you as something more than a buff bot."

This is the chicken or the egg thing, but in this case, I think its that people treat docs as nothing other than a buffbot, so docs in general treat people like a pocketfull of cash. I dont get respect any other way, and I dont earn money any other way (other than as a crafter selling meds, but that has never been a problem).


I played this game at release, and well before buffing was even known, people still treated docs like crap, the only difference is that now they want something from us. I find that the number of rude customers has not really changed since release, and Ive spent the majority of my time as a doc. If you dont act in the most apologetic manner and give people what they want, people will treat you like crap.

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Marzuk147 wrote:
"As the original poster says of which i thought i was only one, we are looked upon as buff bots because all we do is yell buffing 23xx for xx etc..."

Yes, when you say "all we do" you should amend that to "the only thing we can make money doing" which I think is much closer to the truth.

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That statement is not even close to the truth. Make more money doing mission with a group (Don't even have to solo, although unfortunantly most do).

To put my 2 cents in on the "respect" issues here you go.

I never liked buffing people I didn't know, because I knew if I did one, I would get stuck there until I ran out of packs or I simply just left.

I was a doc for little more then a year before I reluctantly gave it up, because I simply wanted to try out other professions. But the simple fact that you believe buffing is your "Only way to make money" makes you very ignorant. I'm willing to wager that most people don't really care to buff the public for the simple reason that is boring, time consuming, and not a very justifible way to spend 15 REAL dollars.

Buff prices rise because the people buffing are getting lazy and would rather buy all the resources and/or packs rather then to actually get the resources on their own. I have a feeling that because doctors feel the only way to make money to buff is the sole reason people may disrespect you for whatever reason.

Your attitude as a player can be made very clear by simply not chatting with your customers. From all the docs I have been buffed by in the past 3 months it’s been a transaction basically of the below:

/shout selling buffs xxxx for x hours
/shout pay 15k and I will start buffing

/tip 15000

buff a stat
buff a stat
buff a stat
buff a stat
buff a stat
buff a stat

/thank (to doctor NOT from the doctor)

/shout selling.....

Not so much as a thank you, a hello, a good bye....nothing and in situations such as the above I try to make it a point NOT to return to said doctor. Buffing is a service that I pay for, I don't pay you to be a doctor I pay youfor a buff, if you choose to buff is up to you. However IRL when I go to the store if the Cashier (In the game could be the doctor) doesn't greet me and/or says good bye, I will simply go to another line, or in some cases just put the item back or return it.

You get the respect you earn....and healing tumble monkeys to "earn" you way to doctor is NOT a way to earn respect from future customers and believe it or not people don't forget when they get shafted by an up and coming doc who is AFK healing an alt-tumble monkey. When you as a player earns the respect from players....things will change, but just because you are a doctor does not mean you DESERVE respect. Respect is earned not given.

"Make more money doing mission with a group (Don't even have to solo, although unfortunantly most do). "

Ok, a few things here.

1) Good luck finding a group, you are going to need it. Most of the people that group now are gimps or newbies, the people making the real money are off exploiting solo missions (seemingly 90% of those doing missions).

2) You will be expected to pay for all meds, and buff the entire group. If the group has say 5 people total in it, there goes 50,000 and at 6k payout for a 30k mission in a group of 5, its going to take you 5 missions before you even make your money back for using those buffs.

3) You will primarily be using medic abilities once out in the feild.



I dont think I could find a real group if I wanted one, the game has become pretty twisted in that respect.


"But the simple fact that you believe buffing is your "Only way to make money" makes you very ignorant."

Ok, now that I have covered why I think group missions are not a viable source of money, lets look at the other things a doctor can do:

1) State cures - going to have to be with a group to do this, and thats rare

2) Rez - again mostly going to be with a group to use this, which is again rare right now, or maybe someone found you by searching for your character. Rare occasion though.

3) Wound heals - Given the lack of wounds, and peoples unwillingness to pay for said healing if you state in advance what the cost is, I dont make money this way either. If I leave it up to a tip I make nothing, if I ask a meager 1cr per wound, I get laughed at.


I already said aside from crafting, and Im saying groups are messed up at the moment. Please enlighten me in my ignorance how I should be making all this money you speak of. Seriously, I want to know.

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Marzuk147 wrote:
"Make more money doing mission with a group (Don't even have to solo, although unfortunantly most do). "

Ok, a few things here.

1) Good luck finding a group, you are going to need it. Most of the people that group now are gimps or newbies, the people making the real money are off exploiting solo missions (seemingly 90% of those doing missions).

Very true about the solo, can't deny that....but whats wrong with helping "gimps or newbies". People complain about respect but will turn a shoulder to the very people that could offer it in the future..

2) You will be expected to pay for all meds, and buff the entire group. If the group has say 5 people total in it, there goes 50,000 and at 6k payout for a 30k mission in a group of 5, its going to take you 5 missions before you even make your money back for using those buffs.

OHHH I forgot because your in a group all of a sudden you have to change your standards for fear of being kicked out of the group. Sorry this is an excuse...simple as that.

3) You will primarily be using medic abilities once out in the feild.

OH NO NOT STIMS.....Yup just another excuse. Lets see do nothing but heal for a part of the payout....hmm yeah that does sound like a bad deal. Get over yourself.


I dont think I could find a real group if I wanted one, the game has become pretty twisted in that respect.
Ahh just another excuse because if you honestly feel that finding a group as any FORM of doctor is difficult....maybe you should just give up the profession.

"But the simple fact that you believe buffing is your "Only way to make money" makes you very ignorant."

Ok, now that I have covered why I think group missions are not a viable source of money, lets look at the other things a doctor can do:

1) State cures - going to have to be with a group to do this, and thats rare
Yawn another excuse for not finding a group because your to busy in CNet sitting on your rump. /hi5

2) Rez - again mostly going to be with a group to use this, which is again rare right now, or maybe someone found you by searching for your character. Rare occasion though.
Yawn yet again.....just another excuse to sit on your rump in CNet.

3) Wound heals - Given the lack of wounds, and peoples unwillingness to pay for said healing if you state in advance what the cost is, I dont make money this way either. If I leave it up to a tip I make nothing, if I ask a meager 1cr per wound, I get laughed at.
A valid point I must admit, but its simple they don't want to pay for you 1c per wound, walk away. Or better yet use /tendwound until they get sick of you healing for 10 wounds ever 45 seconds. Then its up to them to either PAY or LEAVE....Not very difficult.


I already said aside from crafting, and Im saying groups are messed up at the moment. Please enlighten me in my ignorance how I should be making all this money you speak of. Seriously, I want to know.

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Now I will enlighten you as to how you as a DOCTOR, perhaps one of the most looked for profession, can make money. Goto ANY planet with enough STIMS to heal a group. Even if they are total nooblets you still get paid...so sorry for destroying your hopes of making excuses to sit on your rump. Missions are based on 2 things. Group size and Weapons. Believe it or not group size takes priority.

get5-7 of the most fresh nooblets or normal playersyou can find, and I almost promise you that no matter what planets you are on you will be in the 6k-20k range (but it does depend on the planet). Now go hunting...do nothing but waste your most CRAP stim B's. If a player incaps but you can't /drag....to bad so sad....unless you feel like moving. You teach them to goto YOU for heals...not the other way around. They die...just rez them not a big deal. Make sure you have novice scout...and harvest.....to make more CRAP or possibly good stim B's.

Do this for a few days, make some friends, and suprisingly you will have some fun. But most importantly you make a ton of cash for doing nothing but heal and tag along. Perhaps not as much as you would from buffing...but wait there is more!

Now you have friends right? As time goes on they get better and now you can do those 75K Rancor missions everyone is doing these days. Magically your making a ton of cash.....for what? Making friends and using stims, state cures, and occasionally a Res? Teach these nooblets or normal playersthat buffs honestly ruin PVE and try to make it a point NOT to use them. You would be supprised at how much fun you will really have. So there you go...you have been schooled on the REAL purpose of this game. Not money....but Friendship that come along with money. Amazing.

I give up.. Theres no talking to someone who thinks bieng a medic and trying to find a "real" group is a good way of earning money as a doctor.

FYI, I dont sit on my ass at coronet, nor do I sell buffs. I run solo missions just like everyone else and their brother.