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Thread: Very dissappointed at people's attitudes towards doctors...
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skywalker007l
Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:35 pm
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I have been a master doc since a month after the release of this game and I have never had to put up with so much rudeness and vulgarity until today. As I realize how much people can make doing janta missions (and how much I can too) I hate to buff the public. It is quite frankly a waste of my time considering how much more I can make by other means. So while waiting around on dantooine, I get several tells asking for buffs (as usual since I earned my master doc title and am not going to take it down just because I am not buffing) and politely inform people that if they would like a buff it would cost them 60k. Yes I know this is a lot, but if they are desperate and really need a buff, they can work it off in 2 missions. Instead of either declining or saying no thanks, I get tells asking who the "f" I think I am and what a **edit** I must be. Do people actually think that doctors owe them buffs? We are a profession and being a free market, I can charge 100k if I feel like it, it is up to the other person to take it or leave it, not spout vulgarities and shout remarks tarnishing my name. Remember people, you are the ones asking me for something, not the other way around. Ok, just a little experience I wished to share with the community...and if anyone else has had similar experiences (which I'm sure you have, since doc griefing has become a sport as of late) feel free to share them
yebach
Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:06 pm
#3
I can understand you don't like players think you owe them buffs but at the same time you have to think of why you became a Doctor. Did you become a Doctor to only do heals or just to buff yourself? Maybe you really just wanted the ability to buff yourself. In any case, you chose the profession for a reason. It seems a bit hypocritical that you would refuse to hide your Master Doctor tag yet you refuse to use your abilities to help other players unless they are willing to be gouged in their pocketbooks.
I became a Doctor because I wanted to heal. I never really used enhances until after the 2nd month of release as they were extremely crappy to make and find resources for. Yet even now I still keep my price at 10k for buffs despite the fact I can charge what I want. I provide a service to my fellow players and I make at a minimum 100% return profit on my investment since I make my own packs.
If you choose to charge a higher than normal price and a player is willing to pay it then so be it. However you can't expect every player to kowtow to your demands. If someone doesn't want to pay then politely ask them to go away or just put them on ignore.
Would you have become a Doctor if we had never been given our buffing abilities?What will you do when they nerf buffs?
skywalker007l
Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:20 pm
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Yebach, I became a doctor when buffs were unheard of, yes I buff myself and friends, but having my tag up does not imply in any way (except to those that feel it means something) that I am buffing. And I didn't expect anyone to kowtow to me...I said my price, that should have been the end of it. Yes, I enjoy healing peoeple, but when you stop liking the people, you stop liking the healing. People have grown very rude and for that reason I do not buff publicly.
keataro_Mcwookie
Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:26 pm
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yebach wrote:
I can understand you don't like players think you owe them buffs but at the same time you have to think of why you became a Doctor. Did you become a Doctor to only do heals or just to buff yourself? Maybe you really just wanted the ability to buff yourself. In any case, you chose the profession for a reason. It seems a bit hypocritical that you would refuse to hide your Master Doctor tag yet you refuse to use your abilities to help other players unless they are willing to be gouged in their pocketbooks.
I became a Doctor because I wanted to heal. I never really used enhances until after the 2nd month of release as they were extremely crappy to make and find resources for. Yet even now I still keep my price at 10k for buffs despite the fact I can charge what I want. I provide a service to my fellow players and I make at a minimum 100% return profit on my investment since I make my own packs.
If you choose to charge a higher than normal price and a player is willing to pay it then so be it. However you can't expect every player to kowtow to your demands. If someone doesn't want to pay then politely ask them to go away or just put them on ignore.
Would you have become a Doctor if we had never been given our buffing abilities?What will you do when they nerf buffs?
lol most doctors only buff themselves, or guildies, most docs dont buff for money because it really doesnt make that much
Ducimus
Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:30 pm
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>> Do people actually think that doctors owe them buffs?
While im not a doc, i can sympathize and relate to this remark. In a word. yes, many probaby think you do owe them buffs. Why i don't know. But i ran into a similar situatin when i played as a Ranger in EQ.
People thought i owed them a SoW (run speed buff), and were quite rude when i didn't provide for Free, what they thought my class (profession) owed them.
While im not a doc, i can sympathize and relate to this remark. In a word. yes, many probaby think you do owe them buffs. Why i don't know. But i ran into a similar situatin when i played as a Ranger in EQ.
People thought i owed them a SoW (run speed buff), and were quite rude when i didn't provide for Free, what they thought my class (profession) owed them.
Willie-d
Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:22 pm
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lol most doctors only buff themselves, or guildies, most docs dont buff for money because it really doesnt make that much
Exactly, not enough to merit dealing with the public anyway. I'll buff in a player city with lots of people around, but never somewhere like Coronet.
SBRcrew
Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:09 am
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I always keep my Tag up.
Why? For rez, i always rez people and i'm always glad to do it, even if i have a couple kms to do. I take my bike rez the guy and then go. SO i let my title up, so people know who's the doc around here if they need something. I don't put it to be treated like a buff machine.
Solitiri
Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:46 am
#9
I use the tag as a sign. When I have the tag up I am open for business. When I take the tag down, the office is closed, so to speak. People do not care about the sign either way, I have found. Once you buff them you are on their friends list and they look for you. They don't care what your overhead tag says, they know you buff. This is where I disagree with the mechanics of the "friends" list. I would prefer to put /anon up and not show as online on anyone's friends list. Still, that would not keep you from getting the /tells.
I cannot say I've had anyone be quite so rude to me as all that yet. However, when I get the tells I do tell them I am not available for buffs. The one person I had who begged and whined, got put on ignore and I was done with him. That is the only way I have found to deal with those who do not respect your need to do something other than sit on your butt and buff everyone, by kindly saying, "no," the first time and using /ignore for those who will not respect that.
Cypher71
Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:57 am
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I will never hide what I am because of how others want to behave towards that profession. It was my achievement, not thiers. I no longer buff the public, I have gone on strike and will remainon strikethe way things are looking right now. I will also not heal, treat wounds, or rez anyone unless they are among my friends. I became a doctor to interact and be a valued commodity, not to be mistreated, griefed, or taken for granted. I've already encouraged any doctor that felt the way I do to also strike.Of course I got flamed for it left and right, but I will stick to my guns, so to speak. I've even begun to hunt my own meats for my buffs, when I have enough, I will gather my own resources. I know a few of my fellow doctor friends that feel the way I do and have gone down the same path as me, and I always would encourage more to do the same.
-Angle
ventana
Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:50 am
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Glip_G wrote:
I mastered doc about 3 months after release, and we used to group up and chat between waves of people. We would talk to the patients. We would goof off.. being a doctor used to be fun... I miss the good old days when no one would ever be told "I'm only healing tumblers"
I do that now. I try to interact as much as I can. I tell jokes, listen to problems, I like my customers. Ok, a few are rude.... so what... rude people are everywhere... ignore them.
I have my toon stand up and bow to them when we are done, he says "be careful out there". He says "I like your business but i don't want to see you here again for another 3 hrs"... things like that. The customers love it. I also noticed more Doc's in the starport are being a littlle more vocal too. It's a good thing. Back when I was a Buffie most docs sat there and all they dd was spam.
SlowNStoopid
Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:25 am
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yebach wrote:
I can understand you don't like players think you owe them buffs but at the same time you have to think of why you became a Doctor. Did you become a Doctor to only do heals or just to buff yourself? Maybe you really just wanted the ability to buff yourself. In any case, you chose the profession for a reason. It seems a bit hypocritical that you would refuse to hide your Master Doctor tag yet you refuse to use your abilities to help other players unless they are willing to be gouged in their pocketbooks.
By your logic then, tagged Armorsmiths are obliged to craft/repair armor when asked, tagged Rangers are obliged to track creaturesand build camps whenrequired to, tagged Smugglers are obliged to slice equipment whenever and wherever dictated to. Otherwise they would be hypocritical because, hey,they left their tag up. Of course I would tip them, but only the amount that I feel is fair and not their asking price. Riiiiight...
Players in the doctor profession areplayers too.They play to enjoy themselves just like any other profession. If you play doctor to serve anyone and everyone, more power to you. But your own personal choice and opinion on "what doctorsMUST do ifthey leavetheir tag up" is exactly that, your own. Hypocritical in not agreeing with you? I think not. Try telling a TKM that he owes it to you to tank for you becausehe refused to hide his tagand you are willing to tip him what you feel is fair market price.
I became a Doctor because I wanted to heal. I never really used enhances until after the 2nd month of release as they were extremely crappy to make and find resources for. Yet even now I still keep my price at 10k for buffs despite the fact I can charge what I want. I provide a service to my fellow players and I make at a minimum 100% return profit on my investment since I make my own packs.
Great.We're happy for you. Play the way you want to (within the EULA, lol). That's exactly the point.
If you choose to charge a higher than normal price and a player is willing to pay it then so be it. However you can't expect every player to kowtow to your demands. If someone doesn't want to pay then politely ask them to go away or just put them on ignore.
I don't see how the thread-starter was expecting every player to kowtow to his demands. What I did see was his description of how he was abused becausesome did not agree to his terms for his services. They have the right not to use his services if they didn't agree. His point was the abuse that he received from people who asked for his terms but didn't get what they wanted to hear.
It's about ingrained expectations. People expect us toreactthe way they want us to with regardsto their demands. Is it common? Yes.Does that makeit right? No.
SlowNStoopid
Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:42 am
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Glip_G wrote:
Today I heard a comment that gives people the right (somewhat) to have an attitude towards us.
A reason, regardless of right or wrong? Yes. An excuse? Yes. A right? No. Not even "somewhat".
we used to group up and chat between waves of people. We would talk to the patients. We would goof off.. being a doctor used to be fun... I miss the good old days when no one would ever be told "I'm only healing tumblers"
You can still do itwith playerswho learnt early on not totakedocsfor granted andgrow in a city/guild environment that respects each and every profession.Fortunately, my city is filled withplayers like that and it's still a blast to hang out with them.It's still possible to live the "lost dream".
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