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Thread: TEF change implications for buffers
Message Edited by Happymob on 02-04-2005 08:34 AM
If you read it carefully, I think it separates out buffing from this.
The way I read it was that doctors can buff anyone without teffing, but healing damage and wounds would be affected by the restrictions you state.
EDIT - quoted from linked post:
"In the new system, Buffs, Entertainment and Trading will no longer have TEF restrictions. No more trade TEF's bouncing you out of a house or other inconveniences. For example, under this system, a PVP enabled special forces Imperial can trade with or buff a PVP enabled Rebel. "
Message Edited by Craster on 02-04-2005 02:37 PM
Craster wrote:
If you read it carefully, I think it separates out buffing from this.
The way I read it was that doctors can buff anyone without teffing, but healing damage and wounds would be affected by the restrictions you state.
EDIT - quoted from linked post:
"In the new system, Buffs, Entertainment and Trading will no longer have TEF restrictions. No more trade TEF's bouncing you out of a house or other inconveniences. For example, under this system, a PVP enabled special forces Imperial can trade with or buff a PVP enabled Rebel. "
Message Edited by Craster on 02-04-2005 02:37 PM
Yes, I missed that. It's completely silly (I can't heal your wounds, but I can give you a 2500 point buff...(, but that's the way it reads.
In fact, this now means a civiliancan probably buff an overt. Yikes! So, you have a friendly neutral doctor with a droid out in the middle of a GCW battlefield, buffing. I guess the devil is in the details here, but I can't see how they can possibly treat buffs differently than healing.
Craster wrote:If you read it carefully, I think it separates out buffing from this.
The way I read it was that doctors can buff anyone without teffing, but healing damage and wounds would be affected by the restrictions you state.
EDIT - quoted from linked post:"In the new system, Buffs, Entertainment and Trading will no longer have TEF restrictions. No more trade TEF's bouncing you out of a house or other inconveniences. For example, under this system, a PVP enabled special forces Imperial can trade with or buff a PVP enabled Rebel. "
Message Edited by Craster on 02-04-2005 02:37 PM
This is correct
If anything this should make the lives of the starport buffers a little easier
Happymob wrote:
In fact, this now means a civiliancan probably buff an overt. Yikes! So, you have a friendly neutral doctor with a droid out in the middle of a GCW battlefield, buffing. I guess the devil is in the details here, but I can't see how they can possibly treat buffs differently than healing.
vortexala wrote:
Happymob wrote:
In fact, this now means a civiliancan probably buff an overt. Yikes! So, you have a friendly neutral doctor with a droid out in the middle of a GCW battlefield, buffing. I guess the devil is in the details here, but I can't see how they can possibly treat buffs differently than healing.
I completely missed that in the final version... I've posted about it to the Devs to hopefully have the PvP enabled folks be off-limits to Combatant and Civillian Buffing.
Would be pretty nice /cheer
vortexala wrote:
Happymob wrote:In fact, this now means a civilian can probably buff an overt. Yikes! So, you have a friendly neutral doctor with a droid out in the middle of a GCW battlefield, buffing. I guess the devil is in the details here, but I can't see how they can possibly treat buffs differently than healing.
I completely missed that in the final version... I've posted about it to the Devs to hopefully have the PvP enabled folks be off-limits to Combatant and Civillian Buffing.
Not sure how that made it in either - I didn't even notice that part until I read this thread.
Not having to worry about buffing an overt could be nice, but eliminates some of the fun of the looking over my shoulder before I do it. Can't tell you of the times I've been bushwacked after an overt buff. So no impact there.
I also dont see that this will make more Pvp's need more doc skills increasing the #'s of docs on servers, increasing competition or sales of doc goods.
I'm not seeing much here that helps or hurts what we do today as a docs from an economic standpoint. But I like it from the no more Gtef standpoint.
The only thing I see as a possible up tick is sales for stims as more people my pvp without the Gtef and need to be healed. Wound packs maybe also.
Thoughts?
Doc Pepa
DoctorGriggs wrote:
vortexala wrote:
Happymob wrote:
In fact, this now means a civilian can probably buff an overt. Yikes! So, you have a friendly neutral doctor with a droid out in the middle of a GCW battlefield, buffing. I guess the devil is in the details here, but I can't see how they can possibly treat buffs differently than healing.
I completely missed that in the final version... I've posted about it to the Devs to hopefully have the PvP enabled folks be off-limits to Combatant and Civillian Buffing.
Not sure how that made it in either - I didn't even notice that part until I read this thread.
If you guys do get this changed then I hope you find a way to make it easy to become PvP enabled. If it is something like "go talk to a recruiter" then boy is that going to be a pain.
What is a side effect of letting anyone buff anyone else? The way I see it it could benefit PvP since the docs won't keep getting ganked.
What do you guys think?
DoctorGriggs wrote:
What is a side effect of letting anyone buff anyone else? The way I see it it could benefit PvP since the docs won't keep getting ganked.
Happymob wrote:
The idea of someone buffing special forces risk-free on an active battlefield bothers me.
That's my issue with it as well.
However, I think it would be too time consuming for the devs to code it so that it is allowable in one situation and not in others. So, with that in mind, I'd rather it just not be allowed.
DoctorGriggs wrote:
Question I guess is this so bad?
What is a side effect of letting anyone buff anyone else? The way I see it it could benefit PvP since the docs won't keep getting ganked.
What do you guys think?
Well first, I don't really mind the way it's written, Docs not getting ganked is a good thing in my book, but having a Civ buffing people in the middle of a battle and not being able to get attacked could be a problem.
Now possibly introducing a sort of 2-minute TEF that if you recieve a buff or trade from a Civilian, that person recieves a 2-min Attackable TEF (only attackable, no getting kicked out of buildings, and non-transferable) against the opposite faction. The Doc would only be attackable by PvP-E players and that's the only downside of it. The original 2-min TEF from the fighter has no effect outside of this effect for buffers.
It makes the system REALLY ugly but it could be a solution to this if most people think it's an issue.