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Thread: resource requirments for new meds..for those thinking of doing BE crafting

Mustelafuro
Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:07 am
#92






pugguh wrote:

this list I just pulled from the SWGcraft forums is the most insane and unbalanced list of resource requirements that they could have come up with....hats off to any BE that can keep any amount of these things crafted and stocked to sell to doc's.....so here it is for your enjoyment........or not........


Note: If the schem calls for a BEC / CRDM (ie stims), you can NOT use an Advanced version of the same component in it's place.

If the schem calls for an ADV BEC / CRDM / ADM... you CAN replace it with a NON Advanced version (I think this is to stop UBER low level stims).

/////////////////// Enhancers //////////////////
Bacta Toss Enhancer (ET1)
75 Smelted Aluminum???
50 Reptilian
100 Fiberplast
7 ADM
7 ARC
7 AIA
Charges OQ 66 UT 33
Power OQ 66 PE 33

Stabilizer Enhancer (ET1)
75 smelted steel
50 Reptilian
75 Crystaline Gemstone
7 ADM
7 ARC
7 AIA
Charges OQ 66 UT 33
Power OQ 66 PE 33

Nutrient Injection Enhancer (ET2)
125 Avian
100 Reactive
7 ASDS
7 ADM
7 AIA
Charges OQ 66 UT 33
Power OQ 66 PE 33

Bacta Spray Enhancer (ET2)
100 Plumbum Iron
100 Insect Meat
125 Dath Fib
7 ADM
7 ARC
7 AIA
Charges OQ 66 UT 33
Power OQ 66 PE 33

Bacta Infusion Enhancer (ET3)
75 Talus Scaley Hide
200 Reactive Gas
9 ASDS
9 ARC
9 AIA
Charges OQ 66 UT 33
Power OQ 66 PE 33

Bacta Jab Enhancer (ET3)
75 Milk
75 Lok Fib
8 ADM
8 ARC
8 AIA
Charges OQ 66 UT 33
Power OQ 66 PE 33

Endorphine Injection Enhancer (ET3)
75 Dath Avian Meat
125 Methane Reactive
8 ADM
8 ARC
8 AIA

NeuroToxin Enhancer (ET3)
100 Colat Iron
50 Egg
200 Liqu Petro Fuel
8 ADM
8 ARC
8 AIA

Deuterium Toss Enhancer (ET4)
50 Endorian Mollusk
50 Lok Wild Milk
175 Polymer
100 Dylinium Intrusive Ore
9 ASDS
9 ACRDM
9 ARC

Disinfectant Enhancer (ET4)
75 milk
175 Mirth Inert Gas
9 ADM
9 ARC

Thyroid Rupture Enhancer (ET4)
175 Kammris Iron
50 Corellia Crustacean
200 Radioactive
9 ADM
9 ARC
9 AIA

Traumatize Enhancer (ET4)
150 Mythra Copper
90 Fish
200 Radioactive
9 ADM
9 ARC
9 AIA

////////////////// stims /////////////////

Stim A (heal 181 x 9)
12 organic
12 inorganic
1 LS
1 BEC

Stim B (cl 15) (Heal 338 x 12)
15 Flora
15 Chem
1 LS
1 CRDM
2 BEC

Stim C (ET1) (cl 35) (Heal 704 x 12)
20 FLora
20 Fiberplast
1 LS
2 CRDM
2 BEC

Stim D (ET4) (cl 60) (Heal 965 x 15)
25 Seeds
25 Tat Fiberplast
2 ALS
2 ACRDM
2 ABEC

Charges OQ 66 UT 33
Power OQ 66 PE 33


//////////////// components ////////////////


Adv Disbursal Mech (ADM) (Novice)
25 Class 2 liquid
25 Yavin Fiberplast
charges DR 25 OQ 75
Power DR 25 OQ 75

ADV Infection Amplifier (AIA) (ET2)
28 Eleton Reactive Gas
28 Titanium Aluminum
charges DR 25 OQ 75
Power DR 25 OQ 75

Adv Resilience Compound (ARD) (ET3)
24 Tolium Reactive Gas
24 Class 1 Radioactive
charges DR 25 OQ 75
Power DR 25 OQ 75



now everyone get out there and milk til your fingers bleed!!!







Ok lets see, this isn't so bad, I have most of this stuff already. If you look, the hardest resources and most brutal secondary requirements are on the CM stuff. The components look to be the same, so any doc or cm out there needing you to make stuff for them will have plenty on hand already. The smelted stuff is great, very easy to get any old crap alum and toss it in the recycler. Milk is not hard to get, a little time consuming, but easy. The mollusk and crustacean and of course fish, are the only real pain. They always have been though. Looking at this list, as it stands, I have good amounts of all of it, except for the specific lok milk, lok fiberplast, dath avian, mirth inet gas and the mollusk and crustacean. I have the rest of it. Heck eggs aren't that bad, I have a couple guys grinding jedi who search each lair as they get to it. Not like they have anything better to do, got me over 10k of eggs the last week or so. I have over 30k of eggs lying around, and the smallest block is 2k.


Now I am in good shape, more by accident than anything else. I hoard resources I am also a MCM/MD on my main char and a TKM/MBE on my alt. The only thing that bothers me in this list is the ridiculous numbers on the AIA's and ADM'srequired. I seriously hope thats a typo or loot drops are significantly increased. It will be virtually impossible to get looted runs of that many for something that rare. Doc's seem to be ok, as we can hope janta blood stays in game.


I can tell you one thing, you won't have to worry to much about crafting the CM stuff, looks like most of them are going to bail after CU anyway Now I'm glad I didn't craft any of the few big runs of venom I have, just have to hope it stays in game And they better let me keep my janta blood, as I have a medium house full of the stuff.....

Marrow1
Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:30 am
#93






Mustelafuro wrote:


Now I am in good shape, more by accident than anything else. I hoard resources I am also a MCM/MD on my main char and a TKM/MBE on my alt. The only thing that bothers me in this list is the ridiculous numbers on the AIA's and ADM'srequired. I seriously hope thats a typo or loot drops are significantly increased. It will be virtually impossible to get looted runs of that many for something that rare. Doc's seem to be ok, as we can hope janta blood stays in game.


I can tell you one thing, you won't have to worry to much about crafting the CM stuff, looks like most of them are going to bail after CU anyway Now I'm glad I didn't craft any of the few big runs of venom I have, just have to hope it stays in game And they better let me keep my janta blood, as I have a medium house full of the stuff.....








Wow, 30k of eggs. I would recon our entire server does not have that many unused eggs.


As for the Janta... you may want to start crafting now. Take a look at how many you would need of matching sets if you plan on use them for Enhances.








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Cafa
Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:38 am
#94






Eskie wrote:
They require _smelted_ resources? Im off to trade forums LTBing a metal recycler, I guess
And off to AH to talk to a guy below a bridge.





Realizing that all smelted minerals are capped at 200 on every stat.



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Jailbird11275
Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:38 am
#95

I've also get a house full of Janta blood thats taken me ages to round up, constant days of travelling vendors across all planets to fetch. Hope they're still going to be usefull.



Like to add if their aim is to produce a level playing field for all then really this won't achieve it as it'll be the same crafters before that have the cash, the teams of miners/scouts/rangers, dozens of factories and built up customer base to make a profit at crafting the new enhancers. I started small and worked for myself just selling out of a guild hall in a player city and gradually built up more cash to expand, pay people to do work for me, move into larger premises and make a success of my business. Took me 8 months to do this minimum, 8 months of devoting all my time ingame to 1 thing. It IS possible to compete with those that are larger than you and still make a profit, i've done it myself.



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Darksfallen
Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:41 am
#96



/////////////////// Enhancers //////////////////


Bacta Toss Enhancer (ET1)
75 Smelted Aluminum (Any Alum reguardless of stats)
50 Reptilian (planetless, BEs will already have)
100 Fiberplast (Have this already worst case use Tat until we come across something less rare)


Stabilizer Enhancer (ET1)
75 smelted steel (Any steel reguardless of stats)
50 Reptilian (planetless, BEs will already have)

75 Crystaline Gemstone (Any and planetless)


Nutrient Injection Enhancer (ET2)
125 Avian (Have it)
100 Reactive (have it)


Bacta Spray Enhancer (ET2)
100 Plumbum Iron (New planetless shouldn't bee too much trouble.)
100 Insect Meat (CM crafters have it)
125 Dath Fib (New will be annoying.)


Bacta Infusion Enhancer (ET3)
75 Talus Scaley Hide (New planet specific, BEs might have already)
200 Reactive Gas (have it)


Bacta Jab Enhancer (ET3)
75 Milk (Planetless, harvests increased, BEs have already)
75 Lok Fib (planet specific, might take a bit to get a good spawn)


Endorphine Injection Enhancer (ET3)
75 Dath Avian Meat (corbantians have it)
125 Methane Reactive (New, could be annoying...)


NeuroToxin Enhancer (ET3)
100 Colat Iron (new planetless)
50 Egg (planetless, BEs have already.)
200 Liqu Petro Fuel (planet and classless, worst case, we have it in class 4)


Deuterium Toss Enhancer (ET4)
50 Endorian Mollusk (Yikes, BEs might have)
50 Lok Wild Milk (New, shouldn't be that annoying, BEs might have)
175 Polymer (have it already)
100 Dylinium Intrusive Ore (Already have)


Disinfectant Enhancer (ET4)
75 milk (planetless, BEs have)
175 Mirth Inert Gas (I think we have this.... if not annoying)


Thyroid Rupture Enhancer (ET4)
175 Kammris Iron (Planetless)
50 Corellia Crustacean (annoying)
200 Radioactive (CMs have this)


Traumatize Enhancer (ET4)
150 Mythra Copper (New, planetless)
90 Fish (planetless, Bes might have already.)
200 Radioactive (CMs have this.)


////////////////// stims /////////////////

Nothing new here.


//////////////// components ////////////////

Nothing new here


Smelted stuff will be nothing, doesn't matter the quality at all...


Doesn't seem that bad to me. Should be fun.


The only issue here is that we won't be able to turn out items in as large mass as before. But we are not unacustomed to look hard for what we need.



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Cafa
Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:53 am
#97

I'll go so far to say that ever single resource listed isn't an issue except the fish.


Fishing is BORING. BORING. BORING.


Why do you think no one does it?


At least with crustaseans and mollusks you can macro it and get some sanity. Eggs and milk you can work into a hunt. If something is a consumable there is no better gate to rarity than a fish requirement. Ugh


Fivo Asia



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Asia Brothers Industries - Asia Hall SiN CiTY, Dantooine (Offers Vendor at -4703 -1404)
A player bodyguard can't protect you either, something agroes you, you are dead. The
only difference between a pet and the person, is you pay the person to stand there
and watch you die. -- Straker Atrella

cornellius
Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:23 pm
#98

The dialog from a group who arein combat after CU :


- Hi Doc, Can you give us some buffs

- Sorry, i havent any


-HEAL !

- Sorry, i can't... i havent packs


- why are you here then ??

- I have defenses instead of packsafter CU so i can defense myself but cannot heal you.


-make or buy some packs !!

- Ahh, if you find a vendor please tell me... Hahahaa there aren't med vendors in galaxy.. I hear some rumors that there is one in somewhere on Talus but he had spare his time by fishing mostly...






Eskie
Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:08 pm
#99

After some people already posted that they have a lot of the resources - yes, most of us do, especially people crafting for both the doc and CM market.
But nevertheless, the resource amount required increased while the usefulness is being lowered (_that_ is a main goal of the CU, so you can bet it wont be as useful as before). No matter if the resources are easy or hard to get, you will need more resources for less benefit. And with the amounts required, I doubt they can be produced for a profit. I dont mind the resource type requirements staying as they are, but the amount required needs to be lowered a lot.



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after this galaxy had been enhanced far too much for her taste
Darksfallen
Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:21 pm
#100






Eskie wrote:
After some people already posted that they have a lot of the resources - yes, most of us do, especially people crafting for both the doc and CM market.
But nevertheless, the resource amount required increased while the usefulness is being lowered (_that_ is a main goal of the CU, so you can bet it wont be as useful as before). No matter if the resources are easy or hard to get, you will need more resources for less benefit. And with the amounts required, I doubt they can be produced for a profit. I dont mind the resource type requirements staying as they are, but the amount required needs to be lowered a lot.



Although I think that this will change, at last report each one of these enchancers lasted "about two days of gaming". I'm not so sure that the resource per enchance is out of the ball park. As far as so many different types of resources, you don't need to make them all I suppose. I plan on making them all though.




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Clamtroxx
Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:36 pm
#101


wow...if this doesn't change its gonna be ruining months of searching, millions of credits, and countless vendors pissed away in one swift click. 12pt suit-useless. 1/2 my expensive and rare resources (some of which i used my free 30k on)-useless. my millions upon millions of credits spent gathering the above-wasted. hope the devs change this one fast, otherwise they can start counting on $15 less a month.


I MEAN COME ON!?!?!? milk? egg? FRIGGIN CRUSTACEAN AND MOLLUSK!?!? you wanna give BE's more work, fine. but do you have toscrew everydoc in the process!? sorry...sorry...just angry, 'cuz this is gonna suck.



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Reza95
Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:24 pm
#102

lost for words...

so when do we start harvesting these things??



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Jirob1
Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:22 am
#103


just prooves me right, playing wow now... holy crap



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SinfulDoom
Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:13 am
#104

Well, the monotonous task began tonight. I figure if theres any chance I willbe aroundafter the CU I better get something ready. I went out and collected eggs tonight from Endor. I ended up with 2k of em and it only took me 2.5 hours to do it. *gag* *cough* Sry there, thought I was gonna puke. I feel sorry for every person that has ever gone out and collected milk. This experience was rather boring to say the least. Fortunatly the eggs were of pretty good quality. 988 OQ, 651 PE, 884 DR. Speaking of DR, are they going to include duration in the enhancers? Or is this stat also now out the window with so much of the rest of crafting?





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