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Thread: Buff Pack Prices!!
Care to toss up a nice screen shot of the 'awesome' buff packs that you will be selling for 6K a pop when you get around to making them? Here's to hoping that CL4 Liquid, Dolovite, etc.... are all spawned right now so you can get the materials you need to make some killer 20 use, 650 power buffs....
Raistlin27 wrote:
Well out of all the people calling me childish, and telling me to make my own packs, I decided, I would.
I have 2 factories on standby, with over a mil of nuc power. I spent the past week placing extractors, and by sunday, I should have mastered doc crafting. Wich means in less than a week I will be making a huge push to put buff packs for sale at the coronet bazaar for 6k a piece. I hope to curb these high prices myself, by making it impossible to sell a set of buffs for 150k on my server.
Raistlin27 wrote:
My buffs will be comparable to anything on the market (if the enhance c's I make are any indiaction) though I am not a master, nor do i intend to master, so there will be better than mine... just not enough to justify paying 700% more.
On Shadowfire I am a Doctor. I buff for 15k tops, but that's about as high buffs go on SF. People have paid me more if I happen to hear their shouts while I'm doing something else. Buffs prices are set by the customer, mad about prices? **edit** at the people like me on Sunrunner where I gladly pay 50k for a buff if I can find a willing Doctor. If the prices were truely too high, Docs would get no buisness and lower their prices. But, if you see them with a line, then obviously the price is right. I guess that's the price you pay for immortality. Now take your whining sniffly 6 year old posting ass and go sit down b/c we truely, honestly don't give a flying **edit** what you think about prices.
This is a long dead, decaying horse you are beating on here.
Raistlin27 wrote:I know many of you who make buffs sell them to those who stand outside the coronet star port all day, and make gobs of cash. they then turn around and pay you a large sum for a new set of buffs, and the cycle goes on, with both parties making a large sum o dough. this is all fine and good, unless....this process causes the price of a set of buffs to go up to around 150k (the current norm)this is lame for these reasons1. it takes like 3 - 5k worth of resouces, and about 1/2 hour of time to make a set. so if you pay 5k worth of resources, and pay yourself 30k per hour for work (a lot), you would only have about 20k invested. that leaves roughly a 700% profit margin, wich is (not right)2. the cost staying so high drives the cost of a commercial buff up to 10 -15k, wich takes money out of everyones pocket, including everyone who would buy all your other products and services3. It makes even being a doc to buff yourself worth very little, as you will only save about 40k when buying buff packs over just paying to be buffed (not at all worth the days spents grinding my ass off)all these things are true. no doubts about it. flame, and you flame that wich is merely questoning the wong. but, have fun flaming the **edit** out of my post anyways losers....
Why call ppl losers, if you are buffing i assume you are a master doc yourself, why dont you stop whining and make them yourself, and then you'll find out why sometines you have to pay high prices for buffpacks. Just coming in here and starting to flame buffpack crafters and giving totally wrong examples is so lame.
Try finding the best resources , i dare you, try it, you really need awesome ingreds to make those 900+ powerpacks. And in case you didnt know , we have to use Avian Meat in quite large portions and that doesnt grow on trees. Quite frankly most of the times its not even available ( the real good meat), so we have to buy the 'older meat ' at very high prices, which directly results in higher buffpack prices. ( its like oil prices).
We cannot afford to use lower quality avian meat and try to compensate with other components of HQ, if you knew the math behind the whole med crafting you would understand.
So stop bashing on buffpack prices and try to make them yourself, otherwise you have no right to say anything at all and jsut go back to your mindless buffsessions ( which you can ALWAYS profit from, so hush). And whats wrong with charging more for buffs then just 10k or 15k, decent fighters get 30k per mission they do on Dantooine, i bet they wouldnt mind paying 30k for buffs.
Raistlin27 wrote:
My buffs will be comparable to anything on the market (if the enhance c's I make are any indiaction) though I am not a master, nor do i intend to master, so there will be better than mine... just not enough to justify paying 700% more.
6k for enhance c`s....... haha... that's a rip off.....
Oh, this has been entertaining. I guess I am one of the people you are ranting at, as I am definitely in the top notch for crafting buffpacks on my server (along with perhaps only two or three others).
They're 915, 32 charge, 3:30hr, 89 med use.
Raistlin27 wrote:
I warn ye servados, i play devils advocate pretty well. btw way, there IS supply and demand, it just does not work the way it is supposed to. the supply is infinite in availability. how much do krayte weapons go for? depends on how many people been krayte hunting lately. if there have been many, then they are less valuable, if there are less , then they are more valuable. in that, you are right about supply and demand. but the prob is there are no limit to the number of krayte's killed. In the real world they would be extinct by now, in galaxies they respawn constantly.
In the galacitc economy availability plays a much larger role than supply and demand. most of the time people would rather pay more for something they can get now, than spend a few hours trying to find it at a lower cost. my idea, makes for buffs being sold based on max availability (rather than supply and demand). fortunatly for me, my prices will be lower than anyone else. I also have no overhead on meats because I hunt them myself, and have an incredable back stock of resources (as I already explained)
So flame flame flame all day long servy old boy, but when you go to coronet, and you can buy a set of my stims for less than you pay for the resources to make yours, even you will likely shut your mouth and buy them.
I am no fool. I know they will sell like hot cakes at my price, and I have done all the math to a T. with my stocked power and resources, I will make a great profit, and will not have to raise prices for several months. by then, I will still only raise them a bit. I will always sell for less than you, because it is my desire to do so. I will always have more customers than you, because it will alway be there desire to buy at the lowest cost, in the most convienent place.
my supply exceeds yours, and that allows me to sell at a rate that will make demand for my product far supperior to yours.
thats how much I care about supply and demand.
Oh my ... where to begin ....
You simply don't understand
I've run the most well stocked doc supply on my server for over six months (I no i'm not being cocky ... I'd love someone to open another shop to take some of the business away so i wouldn't have to work as much ...) work? yes ... work .... As has been said before when you have a shop ... and you have a name ... and you're known for consistantly making 900+, 30+ uses, 10k+ duration buffs religiously, then guess what ... you're going to have VERY high traffic .... what happens when you combine high traffic + low prices + good enhance packs? easy ... No stock ...
So then what happens? You get telled to death ... when are you restocking? You've been out for "blah blah" days .... whine whine ... rant rant ... blech. So what is this master doc forced to do? raise their prices ... until it happens again ... then they have to raise their prices more ... all the while in the background they have avian prices jumping from what was at one point 50cpu to 500 cpu for exceptional avian ....
This is what happened to me ... i started selling my enhance packs in feburary at 10k/pack ... since then i've been forced to sell them at 50k / set (937/12000/32) or else i run out in 2 days ....
You wanna try dealing with that tell hell my friend, go ahead .... but me i like to actually enjoy the game .... at one point I started to go to work to GET AWAY from the game ... that was until i raised my prices the last time .... tis pathetic ....
Re. Supply and Demand? Please .... I WOULD LOVE another doc to open a shop somewhere that sold ever single doc med in bulk like i do ... but none have ... as a result what have I had to do? raise my prices... would i like to maintain low prices? Of course i would .... i don't sell credits on ebay, i don't have a jedi ... i don't have anything to spend my money on ... but guess what .... I don't have a choice ... its either tell hell or high prices ...
Guess which one i chose ....
And I tried selling lower quality packs for considerably lower prices ... guess what ... they didn't sell ... people would rather pay 50k /set for some of the best buffs on server than 25k/set for just okay ones .... why? POWER ... argue till you're blue in the face but people want power. They want power on stims. They want power on enhances .... why? Because money in this game is piss easy to get .... i made 6 million the first month i was in game on resources alone .... and i rarely charged over 5 cpu ....
anyway ... have fun charging what you want but to be a high profile, constantly stocked,high quality retail seller its not so easy .... especially when you're carrying a hell of alot more than just buff packs
Message Edited by Nema0879 on 09-14-2004 10:41 AM
KDenelor wrote:
I think what he's saying there is that since his C's are good his D's will be good. sounds to me like without the extra experimentation they are gonna be around 750 and 20 uses.
Raistlin27 wrote:
1. it takes like 3 - 5k worth of resouces, and about 1/2 hour of time to make a set. so if you pay 5k worth of resources, and pay yourself 30k per hour for work (a lot), you would only have about 20k invested. that leaves roughly a 700% profit margin, wich is (not right)
What's wrong with crafters earning money?