Doctor Archive

Thread: Devs Answers to My 3 questions.

RingSting_IOM
Thu May 05, 2005 4:04 am
#66

Man I was just on this board in passing, and just just cant belive what a crappy reply you got. It is rediculous, why dont they just tell you we dont want doctors anymore, go and get a different job.





Ikig Monchar - Ahazi - Master Bounty Hunter - Master Pistoleer

Hathos Monchar - Ahazi - 12 Point Master WeaponSmith
Vendor Just Outside of Kaadara 5239 6070

ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
á
MY STICK
WineGuyJr
Thu May 05, 2005 5:10 am
#67


Can I take credit for getting us the new skill? I canceled 2 accounts shortly after reading that response. How about partial credit?



----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pavadin Spencer
Master Swordsman / Master Doctor
Ponder Stibbons
12 pt BE / Master Merchant / 14 pt Master Artisan
Fenix-
12 pt Master Weaponsmith / Master Merchant

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All Acounts Canceled on 11/17/05
MyT_Chicken
Thu May 05, 2005 5:32 pm
#68






Marrow1 wrote:





MyT_Chicken wrote:


This is because you heal for more then the group is doing damage. For instance, say you have a mob that has 50k health.


You have a group of8 people thathave roughly1500 / 3000 health. Your group of 8 has only done about 10k of damage to the mob, and you use area cure for 800 on the entire group which is 6400 damage healed. So now youre group is at about 2300 / 3000, but they are still getting hit, so you use area heal again. Now you have just healed for 12,800, but your group has only done about 12k damage...so now you are out healing the damage being dealt. So you get agroed, and now you have to keep healing just to stay alive further out healing the damage being dealt....


Well I think you get the point, but that is how the agro is working. Which is exactly why I don't like Combat Medic....



Message Edited by MyT_Chicken on 05-03-2005 09:27 AM





The issue you describe has little to do with being a CM. It is that the healer is doing very well at .... healing. If your a Doc and you out heal the damage dealers you have the same issue. The goal of a healer is to do the most healing, at the right time, on the right patient. The hate system gives a very high cost at being a succesful healer. To much so.


By choosing to be a Doc instead of a CM all you have done is lowered your healing and thus lowered the amount of hate you aquire. You could do the same thing by not using area heals and just useing range heals on at risk group members.


Personally this whole hate system is out of balance. Once a creature is agroed it should then have some random chance of moving to a new agro. Having it go right to the healer is counter to what the healers role was ment to be. A tank should not have to spend 50% of thier combat time using Taunt to keep agro.





Well yes it has to do with Healers in general, but more so with CM's, because it's easier to "Out Heal" a Doctor when you are using CM Abilities. Especially when you are getting agroed by more then one thing. Atleast with Doctor you can kinda pick an choose who you want to heal.


But I totally agree with you that the Agro is a little weird....I mean it makes sense, but it really hurts use as healers, because once we are agroed, its very very hard to get rid of the stupid thing.






h Egri p
§ If you don't know; you'll find out soon enough! §

MyT_Chicken
Thu May 05, 2005 5:40 pm
#69






TarMangani wrote:






MyT_Chicken wrote:






Marrow1 wrote:

Last week I was asked to provide 3 questions to the devs. In red are my questions. In green are the answers I was given. (note that I am not allowed to quote them so I am rewriting what they posted in my own words).




Marrow....I don't mean to sound like a jerk,


So when has that ever stopped you before??? (sorry dude, couldn't resist)...


but I told you that is how they would answer it.



So with that being said, rather then everyone getting upset, I think we should re-focus our energy with Marrows help and start compiling data one WHY we are underpowered. Because we really are.

I just wonder...the devs MUST already know we're underpowered, and they know the details of how much of a struggle healing is since they designed it to be this way, so what will focusing the evidence into concise statements do?


I would counter this one and tell all the cheerleaders, (you know who you are), that you can get them to fix the bugs, but otherwise get used to the healing system the way it is... this is what your beloved CU has brought you...












You know when I was talking to them I don't really think they understood my concerns, and mostly I think it was my fault, because I simply didn't have enough data / examples to give to them, so I can really only blame myself for that.


Like I already suggested, we really need to have Marrow start collecting hard numbers on why we are under powered without comparing to the old system.


Like the CU or not, thats beside the point. The Devs will listen to us *IF* we present usable data, which is thehardest stuff to get.






h Egri p
§ If you don't know; you'll find out soon enough! §

VTmoon
Thu May 05, 2005 6:01 pm
#70

geee after almost 20 month of being a master doctor... I think it might be time to move on.




Mono Noke
.......:::: Proud ex-Leader of Oasis ::::.......
.......:::: DarkLord of The Troll Order ::::.......
.......:::: Colonel Of the Imperial Army ::::.......
- Bike Repair, Perfect LS Tools @ Crystal Oasis Dantooine, -4295 6915
Dawgypoo
Thu May 05, 2005 7:46 pm
#71

I share your pain. Tried respecting tonight to a second ranged profession. But with this silly level system I got 2 combat points for killing razor cats that were giving me 2K, screw this!



Decision made, It's been fun guys and gals!





Dawgy Cancelled
Scrappy-Doo Cancelled
Feylis
Thu May 19, 2005 5:16 am
#72


I was just thinking...


The most amusing, and most disturbing, thing in this thread is...


THE DOCTOR PROFESSION CORRESPONDENT IS TOUTING COMBAT MEDIC OVER DOCTOR!!!


What does that say about the future of this profession?


GREAT Job SOE.


I am enclosing $1 so you can all BUY A CLUE, cuz you DESPERATELY need one.


(laughing my A$$ off while the devs try to figure out how to download my dollar so they can add it to their dragon's hoard of cash they already conned out of their community)




Eskie
Thu May 19, 2005 5:26 am
#73



Feylis wrote:

I was just thinking...

The most amusing, and most disturbing, thing in this thread is...

THE DOCTOR PROFESSION CORRESPONDENT IS TOUTING COMBAT MEDIC OVER DOCTOR!!!

What does that say about the future of this profession?

GREAT Job SOE.

I am enclosing $1 so you can all BUY A CLUE, cuz you DESPERATELY need one.

(laughing my A$$ off while the devs try to figure out how to download my dollar so they can add it to their dragon's hoard of cash they already conned out of their community)





he doesnt anymore

But still, Doctor is a mess currently.



Eskona Runningstar
12pt Master Doctor - Master Riflewoman
Light Jedi Padawan
-ERI- medical supplies CLOSED

Left to explore new galaxies far, far away
after this galaxy had been enhanced far too much for her taste
Feylis
Thu May 19, 2005 5:30 am
#74


Ah, I stand corrected



Sorry


Page 6 of 6