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Thread: Doc's totally got shafted on this!!! Everyone please read if your considering Heightened Senses!
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Bad_Bad_Leroy
Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:49 pm
#53
FallAM wrote:
kill/revive macro and a buttload of revive packs
Who do you kill / revive? Need another player, right?
pervel
Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:00 pm
#54
Bad_Bad_Leroy wrote:
FallAM wrote:
kill/revive macro and a buttload of revive packs
Who do you kill / revive? Need another player, right?
Yes another player. It is another meaningless grind in order to get some xp. I dream of the day when you can actually play your char, have fun, and get xp at the same time.
Bad_Bad_Leroy
Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:50 am
#55
I think if they raised the cap, then you could just play your doctor as normal, healing and buffing, trading in Medicine XP for FS XP once every hour of playing or so, instead of once every 15 minutes.
pervel wrote:
Bad_Bad_Leroy wrote:
FallAM wrote:
kill/revive macro and a buttload of revive packs
Who do you kill / revive? Need another player, right?
Yes another player. It is another meaningless grind in order to get some xp. I dream of the day when you can actually play your char, have fun, and get xp at the same time.
TheSidhe
Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:15 am
#56
MannyCalevera wrote:
Med exp is so easy.... stop complaining. I and several other medics do the pet trick for each other next to paemos, and i have a heal macro going... in 2 or so days ive gotten 3 boxes of persuasion and will get the 4th today, and ive done it while watching tv or reading,, really combat profs have it much worse, they hafta hardcore grind mobs then travel all over the place.
Pathetic!
TheSidhe
Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:23 pm
#57
MannyCalevera wrote:
Darkatrina wrote:
Mannvnoob wrote
Med exp is so easy.... stop complaining. I and several other medics do the pet trick for each other next to paemos, and i have a heal macro going... in 2 or so days ive gotten 3 boxes of persuasion and will get the 4th today, and ive done it while watching tv or reading,, really combat profs have it much worse, they hafta hardcore grind mobs then travel all over the place.
Nice one you noob. Areyou trying to get useven more screwed over
no, i was just explaining to these people that they dont have it so hard, they werent "shafted".
Pathetic! So your point is that we continue grindingtoconvert xp blah blah blah? And this is fun? This is how the game was meant to be played? People are asking to have a flaw in the game balanced and made a bit more fun along the way and you chyme in with a scatterbrained exuse for an explaination.
I don't know about everyone else but I waste enough time doing nothing in this game. And I'm for sure not going to continue with the old grinding system! Waiting for shuttles, waiting for buffs, waiting for groups, grinding out doc when most everyone can go out and hunt (or do whatever) for 3 hours or more before the make the long ride back to convert xp. I want content not more grinding!! sigh
Rafed
Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:12 pm
#58
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MannyCalevera wrote:
MannyCalevera wrote:
no, i was just explaining to these people that they dont have it so hard, they werent "shafted".
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Don't think the complain is ' that they have it hard'
Just that the XP cap is so low, that you would have to make over 6 trips to convert the XP for the novice box alone.
Sure doc XP is easy to get, but the whole point of the new system is so people don't have to grind.
Well with the cap this low the only reasonable way to get the FS xp is sit in the village and grind it, otherwise you be making a trip to the village every couple of hours (if not less)to convert your XP.
Combat professions get 60K fs XP per trip ( 900K weapons XP, 90K combat XP), Docs and even other non combat professions get either low caps or poor conversion rates. But a Doc gets 8K FS XP per trip.
This is what I see as the complaint, not that getting that much XP is hard, just that have to do it in so many trips.
A combat profession would have the same cap rate as us if they had weapons as 225:1 and combat XP at 7.5 :1 (approx).
A combat profession can hit the cap (or so people have posted in less than an hour). Personally takes me 3 hours to hit the weapons XP cap.
The way I see to fix it is either
a) Increase the XP cap for all non combat XP (this has a downside due to retraining of skills)
b) Drop the conversion rate so it is inline with the amount of XP a combat profession gets per trip.
c) Change it so you can use weapons/combat XP in all of the FS branches as this is far the easiest XP to get and convert in a reasonable amount.
d) change the whole quest system, so each quest you complete fills one FS skill Box, so there is no grinding. Just will take the time to complete all the quests you need to do. You can all have your grind when you get to initiate if thats what you actually want.
Fallsguy
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:27 pm
#59
Cheesejaguar wrote:
AltharXXX wrote:
MannyCalevera wrote:
Med exp is so easy.... stop complaining. I and several other medics do the pet trick for each other next to paemos, and i have a heal macro going... in 2 or so days ive gotten 3 boxes of persuasion and will get the 4th today, and ive done it while watching tv or reading,, really combat profs have it much worse, they hafta hardcore grind mobs then travel all over the place.
That's why I think the devs will nerf doc's and their FS ratio. No other profession can grind out a branch in 3-4 days with so little effort. This may even be why the dev's didn't put pets as callable from the tool bar. I suspect you aren't doing this for hours on end. A powergamer should be able to do 4 boxes within 1 day. Heck I did 44x4 in CM in less than an hour with revive.
Honestly the problem is that the very low XP cap inducing people to sit there and grind out their XP in the village. Whereas with a higher XP cap they could be buffing people for XP, I do agree that overall it seems very easy, but I dont think the devs had people sitting in the village with healing macros their idea of hard work striving for their Jedi.
exactly - not to mention a lot of Docs, like me, buy buffs not craft them. The singular ideas are individual solutions. This needs to be looked at from the Macro point of view (not that type of macro) a global point of view.
It needs to be addressed for the whole and not "this is what I did........."
Raise the XP cap..... simple - solution solved .....
butchakaboof
Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:29 am
#60
GloriaGaynor wrote:
Doc's got totally boofed on this one. Dev's please help us!
I need roughly 3 million force exp in order to master the Heightened senses tree. Now consider that medical exp caps at 80k for master Doctors. I can cap my exp in about 10 minutes of buffing people. Now consider the ratio in which we can convert that medical exp to force exp which is 10 to 1. So for every 80k medical exp I get 8k force exp. This is how I invision my game play from here on out. Buffing people in Cor for 10 minutes to cap med exp, then racing back to the village to get my measly 8k force exp. Now it's back to cor to buff people again! Oh what fun!!!!
Why not buff people at the village you say? Well there's other docs there in the same situation I'm in so just finding people to buff is a chore, forget about charging for buffs at the village because us docs are so desperate for medical exp that we just run around looking for people unbuffed, then buff them wether they want it or not.
Why is it that combat exp caps out at around 900k and medical exp caps at 80k? This is a huge flaw that makes me want to quit altogether. I may be able to get the 50k force exp the learn the senses tree, but I'm not going to master it by any means at this rate.
This is how us Doctors are rewarded for taking a profession that helps people, we get the shaft.
Dev's please fix this!!!
Kateel Kuhlvult - Master Doctor - Flurry
I appologize, it was me who Boofed the profession 
MannyCalevera
Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:47 am
#61
Darkatrina wrote:
Mannvnoob wrote
Med exp is so easy.... stop complaining. I and several other medics do the pet trick for each other next to paemos, and i have a heal macro going... in 2 or so days ive gotten 3 boxes of persuasion and will get the 4th today, and ive done it while watching tv or reading,, really combat profs have it much worse, they hafta hardcore grind mobs then travel all over the place.
Nice one you noob. Areyou trying to get useven more screwed over
no, i was just explaining to these people that they dont have it so hard, they werent "shafted".
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