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Thread: Thank you Devs for Bankrupting the Doctor Profession

Cygnusx11
Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:17 am
#40

I was in the village yesterday doing missions...(on Gorath)and a lot of peoples were asking for buff....

No Doc there to buff......


I was receving tons of tells..... for buffs....


So , i dont think its a problem...
Smezza
Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:23 am
#41

Actually in the long run this will be great for Docs (not that I've notice a change in price) because all these Docs trying to get Jedi are going to have to drop Doc sooner or later.... more customers for you



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captenjonny
Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:39 am
#42

For the past week on Sunrunner buff prices are running in the 10-20K range. I have seen NOONE offering free buffs. I cranked 1 mill selling 20K buffs just yesterday (sunday) on Dantooine. Don't see any problems.



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Sevardos
Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:28 am
#43






RandalFarsen wrote:





TheSidhe wrote:





Pachop wrote:
You guys make plenty of money already nd most of the time you rip people of like doing buffs fro 15k so be happy for what you get. you are acting like a money hunger captiollist





Moron!






Dont call him moron Its not his fault you paid 250CPU for Avian Meat Get a good look at the situation... NO WAY YOU SHOULD OF PAID 250CPU. Simple as that.


Regards,
Riane Sanadeat








Interesting. How exactly do I convince someone who has meat to sell it to me for a lower price? I'd really like to know your secret for convincing people to sell for less.


And don't try the 'harvest it yourself' position because you'll be making a generalized and false assumption that everyone has combat or scout skills to do that.


You must be a new Doc on Bria. 250 cpu was the going rate for high quality Avian meat while in spawn. It goes for higher in auctions. You also can't make buff packs by hand so you'll always want enough meat to do a large enough factory run to make it worth your while.


Pachop deserved the response he got. Plus he can't spell capitalist.


Message Edited by Sevardos on 09-13-2004 02:29 PM



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kirstar
Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:25 pm
#44

was in corenet starport yesterday.


there was another docotor buffing 13k 2400+ or 15k with disease / poisen


as my buffs are old and only 2300+and I had some bivoli running from buffing a guildmate i started buffing at 10K,


then when I couldnt see anything for peopke crowding me I closed my line


i then reopened the line at 15k


I then got annoyed with people again so i upped the price to 20k


people were still pestering me.


Question, what this people are talking about with line jumpers......





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RandalFarsen
Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:48 pm
#45






Sevardos wrote:






RandalFarsen wrote:





TheSidhe wrote:





Pachop wrote:
You guys make plenty of money already nd most of the time you rip people of like doing buffs fro 15k so be happy for what you get. you are acting like a money hunger captiollist





Moron!






Dont call him moron Its not his fault you paid 250CPU for Avian Meat Get a good look at the situation... NO WAY YOU SHOULD OF PAID 250CPU. Simple as that.


Regards,
Riane Sanadeat








Interesting. How exactly do I convince someone who has meat to sell it to me for a lower price? I'd really like to know your secret for convincing people to sell for less.


And don't try the 'harvest it yourself' position because you'll be making a generalized and false assumption that everyone has combat or scout skills to do that.


You must be a new Doc on Bria. 250 cpu was the going rate for high quality Avian meat while in spawn. It goes for higher in auctions. You also can't make buff packs by hand so you'll always want enough meat to do a large enough factory run to make it worth your while.


Pachop deserved the response he got. Plus he can't spell capitalist.



Message Edited by Sevardos on 09-13-2004 02:29 PM





Uh! This is going to be so much fun!


Ok first off, not new to the profession. Been a doc for a long time just for the pleasure of meeting new people, that response is just an excuse to try to talk down to someone - very bad tactic. Second those prices were set by people like you who overpay - this 250cpu is a response to doctors trying to overbid each other, simple as that. Secondly, harvesting your own doesnt have to mean you get it all by yourself, ask guild members - if they get free buffs they will have no problem doing a guild raid for those resources. Further more, even at 250CPU, if you make your own buff packs, you are talking at least of a300% profit (and that is a very low value).


So no, your response to my comment was not appropriate and was completely devoid of any valuable information.So, pleasedon't call someone a moron just 'cause they don't see your point of view; so what if he can't spell capitalist? There is nothing to say that someone has to spell correctly to have an intelect or have common sense. Do I agreewith his point of view? No. But he has every right to voice his opinion on how doctors in this game work or abuse the control we have over the cost of buffs. So don't be calling people names or degrading anybody in any manner because you lack the ability to have an open mind and accept another point-of-view aside from your own.


Regards,

Riane Sanadeat, MD



Regards,
Riane Sanadeat, MD
Bria Galaxy
RandalFarsen
Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:50 pm
#46






kirstar wrote:

was in corenet starport yesterday.


there was another docotor buffing 13k 2400+ or 15k with disease / poisen


as my buffs are old and only 2300+and I had some bivoli running from buffing a guildmate i started buffing at 10K,


then when I couldnt see anything for peopke crowding me I closed my line


i then reopened the line at 15k


I then got annoyed with people again so i upped the price to 20k


people were still pestering me.


Question, what this people are talking about with line jumpers......








Well people started offering doctors an amount of money greater than a normal buff to skip the line (aka Express Line, VIP Line, etc.) Well doctors started offering it publicly to increase the number of people doing it


Hope that helps.





Regards,
Riane Sanadeat, MD
Bria Galaxy
Cheesejaguar
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:32 pm
#47

Im seeing quite the opposite, Buff pack makers are rasing their prices, and now doctors are asking 15-30k for a buff



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-Ory
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:51 pm
#48

doh....



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RandalFarsen
Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:38 pm
#49






ZeroK0ol wrote:

You didnt answer his question, u just countered his insults with insults of ur own, albeit they are a bit hidden and under the surface, they ARE there. The question put out was.... How do you convince someone to charge u less?


Lets say this is my situation *coz it was when the avian prices jumped* Not guilded, dont buff publicly, and dont sell buff packs. I am a master dr to buff my friends, also unguilded and there was only 3 of us. I was the md, one was a MCH and the other didnt know his head from his... yeah u get the idea. In any case, none of us except hte CH has any scouting and i wasnt going to rely soley on him for meat... this means i pay.... up the arse. And this was BEFORE SOLO GROUPS. when prices were around 150cpu.


Someone wants to sell me meat, they say 150cpu, i choke on it coz last week it topped out at 35cpu..... Now what do i do that the most money ive ever had in my account is 500k and i only have about 50k to my name. how do i convince him to sell me the meat at 35cpu?



Regardless of HOW it got jumped up, just wanna know how to get them to charge for less. soon as i find this out, ill start a resell business, to bad it doesnt work this way. 250cpu is goin rate for best spawn Avian on bria, regardless of why it jumped all doctors have to contend with it.








Welp, the easiest way is to get those friends of yours to get scout (and yourself for that matter because if you are just a doctor that means you have the skill points to spare and unless you have a really hard profession aside on your template its just a better idea to drop some skills and then gring them back up once the spawn has left) cause its going to be hard to get all the doctors to agree that 250CPU is too high - for a doctor that has that kind of cash it would be easy to pay it, and if you really think about it, it wont end there... there will be a rich doctor out there that will try to outbid that amount and I wouldnt be surprised if it goes to 350-500CPU on the next absolutely excellent spawn that matches the spawn that started this whole fiasco and as long as there are people willing to pay that amount it will continue to rise and be out of the reachfor people like you and me that dont have a large bag of credits.


So there is no real easy way to get the price down. Have you ever tried to bring inflation down in RL? No, because there is no easy way of doing that either and to get it down you would need a major breakdown of the economy (aka a resession) to acomplish that. And so you will have to pray that the economy in SWG crashes before seeing that. The situation is how much that would mean in the long run. Ive heard of doctors going broke after spending their fortune buying this last HQ avian meat spawn. Calculated, I got about 3.5 million credits spent on avian meat alone to make 100 buff packs. But dont worry, they most likely will still see at least a 500% return on their investment (22 mil @ 11k buffs with 20 charge buff set). But that leaves most of the avian meat to the wealthy doctors that can afford it.


In my opinion paying 250 credits for a piece of meat is not right, but its really up those that would want to pay that. Im happy making 20 buff sets everytime I can and then buying my buff packs from people like Jirob or Soci.


My situation with the original poster that got me all worked up was his responses to both my comment and that of the original poster complaining that we charge enough. Under no cirumstances is there a need to degrade anyone for their opinions - first he calls someone a moron, I make him understand why that isnt really true and he shouldnt be taking out his anger on another person. He paid the 250CPU, not the other person. Second, it was an insult to me to be called a novice/amateur to the doctor profession, something that was not necessary. So I respond in the most civilized way I know how to without turning to the use of bad words or insults. If someone will make any comments or opinions about my point of view they better be well founded and not just "oh, your a n00b, you dont know what you are talking about."


250CPU was brought about by no one but the doctors themselves, there is no use complaining about it. I say, if you dont like it, dont pay it - thats what I decided Im sorry that you dont have a guild to help you out (and btw, my guildmates have never helped me out harvesting meat, I do it solo ) or friends that have the scout ability. There are tactics that you can use, but Im not a good source of them. Just try to think about the problem and what resources you have around you to help you solve it





Regards,
Riane Sanadeat, MD
Bria Galaxy
ZeroK0ol
Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:33 am
#50






RandalFarsen wrote:





Sevardos wrote:









Interesting. How exactly do I convince someone who has meat to sell it to me for a lower price? I'd really like to know your secret for convincing people to sell for less.


And don't try the 'harvest it yourself' position because you'll be making a generalized and false assumption that everyone has combat or scout skills to do that.


You must be a new Doc on Bria. 250 cpu was the going rate for high quality Avian meat while in spawn. It goes for higher in auctions. You also can't make buff packs by hand so you'll always want enough meat to do a large enough factory run to make it worth your while.


Pachop deserved the response he got. Plus he can't spell capitalist.



Message Edited by Sevardos on 09-13-2004 02:29 PM





Uh! This is going to be so much fun!


Ok first off, not new to the profession. Been a doc for a long time just for the pleasure of meeting new people, that response is just an excuse to try to talk down to someone - very bad tactic. Second those prices were set by people like you who overpay - this 250cpu is a response to doctors trying to overbid each other, simple as that. Secondly, harvesting your own doesnt have to mean you get it all by yourself, ask guild members - if they get free buffs they will have no problem doing a guild raid for those resources. Further more, even at 250CPU, if you make your own buff packs, you are talking at least of a300% profit (and that is a very low value).


So no, your response to my comment was not appropriate and was completely devoid of any valuable information.So, pleasedon't call someone a moron just 'cause they don't see your point of view; so what if he can't spell capitalist? There is nothing to say that someone has to spell correctly to have an intelect or have common sense. Do I agreewith his point of view? No. But he has every right to voice his opinion on how doctors in this game work or abuse the control we have over the cost of buffs. So don't be calling people names or degrading anybody in any manner because you lack the ability to have an open mind and accept another point-of-view aside from your own.


Regards,

Riane Sanadeat, MD





You didnt answer his question, u just countered his insults with insults of ur own, albeit they are a bit hidden and under the surface, they ARE there. The question put out was.... How do you convince someone to charge u less?


Lets say this is my situation *coz it was when the avian prices jumped* Not guilded, dont buff publicly, and dont sell buff packs. I am a master dr to buff my friends, also unguilded and there was only 3 of us. I was the md, one was a MCH and the other didnt know his head from his... yeah u get the idea. In any case, none of us except hte CH has any scouting and i wasnt going to rely soley on him for meat... this means i pay.... up the arse. And this was BEFORE SOLO GROUPS. when prices were around 150cpu.


Someone wants to sell me meat, they say 150cpu, i choke on it coz last week it topped out at 35cpu..... Now what do i do that the most money ive ever had in my account is 500k and i only have about 50k to my name. how do i convince him to sell me the meat at 35cpu?



Regardless of HOW it got jumped up, just wanna know how to get them to charge for less. soon as i find this out, ill start a resell business, to bad it doesnt work this way. 250cpu is goin rate for best spawn Avian on bria, regardless of why it jumped all doctors have to contend with it.





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