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Thread: Mad as heck about line skips

stymiexxx
Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:26 pm
#40

You know, people who **edit** about line skippers really need to get a life or move on. If you want fast buffs, then pay the 50k and don't wait. An express line is great for those WILLING to pay it. Most eople **edit** about uber buffs costing 15-20k as it is, let alone payuing even more. Not everyone and their mother pays 50k for buffs so linbe skipping is very minimal. Also, I am sick of hearing people complain about costs of buffs. Buff packs are not free and ones that hit for 2600+ are expensive. A doctor is in the game to make $$ like the rest of you mission running fools. Your missions are ALL PROFIT where buffing, with bilovi, etc is not.


Remember, you can go out and make hundreds of thousands of dollars in 3.5 hours where a doctor does notjing but stand at a starport all day and buff. I love buffing because I meet new people and make friends and customers. However, I offer VIP PASS and people love it. No complaints!


So bottom line, pay the 50k, pay the 15k ( which you already bitcch about) and wait in line or leave. The choice is yours from the start. God you all sound like welfare people who **edit** about catering to the rich. Funny thing is, most of youcomplaining are rich yourself just as GREEDY and don't wanna pay for thecrap you want.



The only good rebel is a rebel 1 meter under ground !


Character name: Deathwind

Server: Intrepid

Race: Drow Elf

Occupation: Pharmacuetical Drug Pusher
Tissier
Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:25 pm
#41

Funny, you rather wait 1.2 hours than pay 30k. Imagine the amount of money you can make inside 1.2 hours

Yes, something needs to be done about this soon. I'd suggest :
1) You dont get a buff
2) You pay $30k
3) You grind up your own doc
4) Stop whinging.
Lamech
Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:45 pm
#42

Legal? Actually you were right to question. The Empire has recently deemed that it is illegal to for rebels to be buffed in said express lane...in fact at all. So if you're a rebel get out of the queue and move along.


We're not that happy about neutral Doctors but hey we're reasonable.


Oh and any wookiee must stay in the third 'really really slow' lane and pay treble.



saxmahoney
Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:57 am
#43

Here's what I try to do if I get long lines...5k a person skipped...then tip some of that 5k back to each skipped person. So in theory if you get skipped 2 or 3 times, you'll have your buff paid for. Also, there are several people that I give priority to in buff lines...guild members, close friends, or people that have shown great generosities for my services.


I like the idea of giving some of the "extra" money back to thsoe who remain in line patiently.

I just hope that buff lines don't come to DB duels for spots in line (It HAS happened...on 2 occasions in recent memory). That's just what I need, have a 10-20 person buffline, and have to rez stupid people that duel while in line.../sigh



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Farcaster007
Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:42 pm
#44






Mmaxx wrote:

yeah I stoped using all docs that allowed the line skip....unless they havla buff the skippers.I'd rather spend 3k in travel and 20 minutes on shuttle trips visiting a buff bot then encourage this activity. I decided to try a couple new profs andactually adjusted my character to 0440 doc for the time so I can avoid even seeing this new trend. I don't like getting low opinions of people I don't know from watching their actions but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth everytime I see it.


I have no problem paying 30k for a buff if that is the annouced price but standing in line for that long then getting near the front only to see 4 people get buffed before you gets quite frustrating. I have even offered free havla to one of the docs but it was refused. Using Havla would fill some of the stomach and probably in the long run reduce the time spent buffing but it seams like a fair tradeoff to those standing in line.


If you are in this game to get rich then as some of you like to point out Janta Missions do it faster.


If you want to charge 30k or even 50k for a buff then by all means do it. You'll get the business if it's there to get. There have been several times in the game that I would have paid 50k for a buff. Annoucing a buff price then saying if you want faster service pay me more and screw those that gothere first means I'm off to an afk doc to get mine.


I'd rather stand in line with a honest afk doc (since he has no choice but to buff whoever he is grouped with) and receive a lesser quality buff then give you another credit.







I'm not too happy about this trend either. Most Doctors got into this profession for the love of helping others. There are easier and faster ways to make money, afterall. For those in line tosee the line getting LONGER instead of shorter, this is an insult. This behavior only gives ammunition to those who feel that Doctors are just greedy, and that reflects on all the other Doctors who don't see the need to put money above all else.


Ekatha Jes, MD

Sparkydogg
Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:42 pm
#45

once again, i defer to my business plan


50k for everyone. i never have a line of more than 1 person waiting, but i make as much if not more than the doc charging 10-15k with a line 20 deep....plus i dont have to go thru the headache of line management, and my customers get a more personal application than the buff herder who just wants to get the line down


50k....hate me if you want....but if you want a good buff right now, im your guy



-Jorahoa
GloriaGaynor
Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:17 pm
#46

A lot of whiners on board today, I think we need to space the lot of you. If you've never played a doc you have no right to tell us what to charge or how to run our bussiness. Resources cost a lot of creds, plus the time we have to spend finding said resources, plus the time we spend crafting buff packs, plus the credits we spend running our various harvesters and factories. Not to mention we could be out doing something more fun AND more profitable, like missions. Line skipping is like real life, if you donlt like it, move to Canada and get free and crappy healthcare. If you have the credits to spend, then you better believe you'll get "Premium service".

My guild comes first, even if I have a huge line if you see a character with a <Q> after there name, they're the next buff period and for free too.

As for what I charge it all depends on where I'm at. If I'm in Coronet I try to match my prices with the other docs in the area, usually I ask rebels to tip what they can afford and I tell Imperials a flat rate of 20k credits, plus Imperials have to endure mandatory proctological exams, sorry, it's company policy.


Kateel Kuhlvult - Master Doctor
SlowNStoopid
Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:23 pm
#47






Lamech wrote:

Legal? Actually you were right to question. The Empire has recently deemed that it is illegal to for rebels to be buffed in said express lane...in fact at all. So if you're a rebel get out of the queue and move along.


We're not that happy about neutral Doctors but hey we're reasonable.


Oh and any wookiee must stay in the third 'really really slow' lane and pay treble.







Dude, that really cracked me up! LOL. Considering the tone of theother posts, yours really caught me by surprise. /cheer for people able to laugh.


Docs -Yourskills, your buffline, your time, your choice.


Buffees -Exercise your right to choose and find another doc if you don't agree. No law states thatyou have to patronize them.

stymiexxx
Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:38 am
#48

Dueling for spots in line... now there is an idea. BWAHAHAHA !



The only good rebel is a rebel 1 meter under ground !


Character name: Deathwind

Server: Intrepid

Race: Drow Elf

Occupation: Pharmacuetical Drug Pusher
NiViK
Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:25 am
#49

well....here is mt 2 cents.


I will never get master doc...


I started an entertainer and was loving it...then I got hooked on quickness buffs. Now...the only docs that will buff only quickness are other entertianers. Whats up with that???


So my solution...Saturday morning I got novice medic and started grinding...Sunday morning....I have Doc 0/4/4/0.


I found a good buffpack vendor...I can buff 2193 for 3:50. I figured out that 1 round of buffs costs me 3k.(My cost of buffpacks from the vendor)

I always have a quickness buff now...I buff other entertainers for free. I only charge 9k for a full buff.


What is really funny is that I started buffing on Sunday...I went to cnet...all the docs were charging 12-14k for 2400+ and 3:30.

I started advertising 2193 at 3:50 for 9k(so basically I make 6kprofit per buff) and man my line instantly filled up... I accually didnt have a line....I anounced that it was in order by who tipped my bank first. Not a single person complained. I kept people informed of where they were in line....everyone was happy. Except the other docs at the starport. They got a little miffed because I took half their business.


No one cut in line... probally the type of people that want to cut also want the biggest..baddest buff.

I have a CH and a BH on other servers....and in my humble opinion, there is little diff between a 2100 buff and a 2400 buff....I personally would rather the buff last longer even if it is just 20 minutes more.


I dont ever plan on charging more than 9k a buff...maybe that is because I'm an entertainer and I am used to people never tipping me when I dance or play. Only thing I really care about is that I can buff myself and my friends now....Screw the lines and the 15k+ charges...I would rather have a smaller buff adn spend that hour playing and having fun than waiting in aline for 300 more points in buffs.



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Bad_Bad_Leroy
Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:05 am
#50






VBDotNetRulz wrote:

Is this legal?! Docs are now saying its 30k extra to skip to top of the line. It took me 1.2 HOURS to get a buff yesterday because so many people just came up and skipped in line. Something needs to be done abou this soon.





No, it's entirely ILLEGAL and you should report it to a CSR as soon as you see this happen.


As a matter of fact, if a Doctor ever stops buffing, refuses to cure your disease/poisons, heal your 14 health wounds, stands up, scratches his rear or even thinks about having fun, they will be immediately banned and charged for an 12 month subscription fee to make up for the injustice.


/sarcasm off



If you're tired of waiting and paying to get buffed, do what I did - pick up doctor yourself. First, you'll gain new respect for just what it takes to become a good doctor and buffer. Second, you'll never wait in line again.




Creb - Doctor, Swordswookiee (SRA Master of Medicine, Sunrunner)
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Bad_Bad_Leroy
Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:14 am
#51




Mmaxx wrote:

I have no issue whatsoever with the price of buffs. If you want to charge 8k, 15k, even 50k go ahead. The issue here isn't about the buff prices. the issue here is about waiting in line and watching half a dozen people that showed up later get buffed first. When you get to within a person or two of receiving a buff and then 4 people get in the 'overpay line', it gets pretty frustrating.


At the very least, if you are going to practice this type of business, use havla on your express line.


This isn't about the money at all. If two docs are buffing, I go to the shortest line andask about price later. If the line I am in allows the VIP service, I leave that line and go to a buff bot. I would much rather pay a atk doc then a buff bot but not one that allows line skipping.


Seams odd eh? If the doc announced that the buffs cost 30k at the start I would pay it but I won't wait the one extra person he VIPs through and pay 10k for those same buffs. I'd rather waste a lot of time and go pay for lesser buffs from someone I know can't allow line skipping. actually I wouldn't let one guy train me that used the VIP service... hehe he didn'tunderstand it but I'm not fond of those that practice either end of this service.




Truly considerate doctors will use Havla for VIP buffs. This actually speeds up the buff line, since it takes less time to Havla-buff two people than it does to non-havla buff one person. So everybody wins


I think to be fair to line-waiters, if you offer premium line-cutting services, you should use havla.


(fyi havla greatly reduces the delay-between-buffs for a certain number of times, like 20 or so. So the next 20 buff applications will have little or no delay between each stat. see this post for how to speed buff.)





Creb - Doctor, Swordswookiee (SRA Master of Medicine, Sunrunner)
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saxmahoney
Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:23 pm
#52






NiViK wrote:

well....here is mt 2 cents.


I will never get master doc...


I started an entertainer and was loving it...then I got hooked on quickness buffs. Now...the only docs that will buff only quickness are other entertianers. Whats up with that???


So my solution...Saturday morning I got novice medic and started grinding...Sunday morning....I have Doc 0/4/4/0.


I found a good buffpack vendor...I can buff 2193 for 3:50. I figured out that 1 round of buffs costs me 3k.(My cost of buffpacks from the vendor)

I always have a quickness buff now...I buff other entertainers for free. I only charge 9k for a full buff.


What is really funny is that I started buffing on Sunday...I went to cnet...all the docs were charging 12-14k for 2400+ and 3:30.

I started advertising 2193 at 3:50 for 9k(so basically I make 6kprofit per buff) and man my line instantly filled up... I accually didnt have a line....I anounced that it was in order by who tipped my bank first. Not a single person complained. I kept people informed of where they were in line....everyone was happy. Except the other docs at the starport. They got a little miffed because I took half their business.


No one cut in line... probally the type of people that want to cut also want the biggest..baddest buff.

I have a CH and a BH on other servers....and in my humble opinion, there is little diff between a 2100 buff and a 2400 buff....I personally would rather the buff last longer even if it is just 20 minutes more.


I dont ever plan on charging more than 9k a buff...maybe that is because I'm an entertainer and I am used to people never tipping me when I dance or play. Only thing I really care about is that I can buff myself and my friends now....Screw the lines and the 15k+ charges...I would rather have a smaller buff adn spend that hour playing and having fun than waiting in aline for 300 more points in buffs.






I will buff just quickness for entertainers whenever they want...usually even if I have a line, I'll hit them after the person I'm currently on...it's only everyone else waiting 15 more seconds versus 10 minutes for the entertainer. I usually don't charge for just a quickness.

I will say though, that sometimes, If I get asked for just quickness, I will say I'll do stamina/action instead...so that I don't end up with fewer quickness buffs than everything else and ahve to lose full sets of buffs to people.



Saxmahoney
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Master Doc / Master CM N
NSA High Council of North Star, Tatooine
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Enjoy the present. Remember past memories, but don?t dwell on past mistakes.
Look to the future with excitement, but don?t be afraid of what tomorrow may bring.


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