Doctor Archive
Thread: Just a Heads up from a TC regular.
Marrow1 wrote:
The first jedi on my server is in my guild. I was a doc before he unlock. I can promis you that you did not spend more hours grinding your jedi than I grinded my Doc in the last 2 yrs. Heck the hours I spent hunting avian could have produced a little army of Jedi.
So please, do not give me the jedi grind story for I have grinded a full template and it was a cake walk compared to running a 25+ factory buisness for over a year.
I was a doc from when I started this game until they changed the prof with the CU. If your saying you spent 8 hours a day gathering avian for 4-5 months pre patch 9 then good for you, I know I never spent anywhere near that time to get my resources or to craft and I always had backpacks full of meds in storage, on sale and for my guild.
Comparing a full time crafter to the pre patch 9 jedi grind is a little confusing though, I know I did it because I enjoyed it. Doc to me was never a grind so i can't see the relationship.
Not flaming I am just a little confused by your agressive stance trying to compare apples and oranges to prove your apples are much harder to produce. What does it accomplish?
Not all Jedi. The ones you see in the movie are the cream of the crop. Some great Jedi were even killed during Order 66 by Clone Troopers.
Most Jedi probably couldn't stand up to a group of blaster-wielding thugs. Not all Jedi are as strong as Mace Windu, Yoda, or Obi-Wan.
If great Jedi can be killed by a group of Clone Troopers, regular Jedi, you would assume, to not actually have that much of an advantage over a person using a rifle.
That's also excluding the factor that Jedi don't really wear armour, have to concentrate immensely hard, and undergo vigorous training to fight against a person with some good armour and a gun, where all you have to do is squeeze the trigger.
If anything, normal Jedi should be at a disadvantage.
Marrow1 wrote:
Take any M. Def with 4000 healer and 0002 enh can sit there and chanel and take all the damage a Doc/Pistols can dish out all day long. As a BH/Pistols/4000 cm I have run up to this type of defender build and they just stand there and there is nothing I could do and believe me I have very nice pistols, food, etc etc.
The simple fact is that any build can be the perfact match for any other build. The one move where the defender is getting toasted by a M. CM/BH. This is the perfect match up in the CM favor as his weapons are not countered by the defenders def. A healer or Enhancer build would have crushed that BH.
You do not use A.I in pvp anymore. Any Defender who A.I is dead. Any proper pvp guild have a MCM, MEnh or MSmuggler along to deal with them easily. In fact, I havnt seen the A.I state outside pve for like 1-2 months now. I am one of the Master Enhancers you can thank for that.
TenshiHanaKinu wrote:
MsNiL, except for one thing: The Meleer got incapped. I've seen Defenders do that, and if they're about to get KOed they can just spam avoid... AND still be doing damage. Non-Jedi can't avoid Incap.
battledroid01 wrote:
MsNiL wrote:
Please download theese four videos and try to say the same, I can assure you you cannot find any Jedi movies similar to theese ones.:
damicatz wrote: What sets it apart is the extreme unbalance that having an alpha class creates. 90% of Jedi are little children that couldn't PvP if they had god mode on. A full-template Jedi that knows what they are doing will be able to solo almost anyone unless they invest in millions of credits worth of SEAs. There is a reason that SWG is the only MMO with an Alpha Class. It's a bad idea, and does not belong in a multi-player game.
Compliments of the bounty hunter boards m.cm/m.bh vs m.def/m.ls
Compliments of SamuraiJack' on Lowca Tanking 101
Compliments of LOS from Bloodfin Bloodfin tank
Another one compliments of LOS from Bloodfin Bloodfin tanking
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-08-200505:33 AM
Please.. Not everyone has 100 million credits to spend on equipment to fare vs jedi...
Plus when a jedi is in an Group together their deadlier than anything eles if they know what they are doing..
I am on lowca and there are many builds similar to Samjack. We are talking about guys that can take on 3 or 4 jedi easy. What dopes like you fail to take into account is that Jedi need to spend millions and millions on sea's and crystals as well. You will never be a star in PvP without maxing speed accuracy and def and that takes millions. The point is in 2 days and a few mil you can grind the swords/doc/pike template and slaughter a full temp Jedi who took 2 months to grind. Jedi is not an alpha class, once upon a time it was, but now there are many templates that equal or surpass the Jedi.
diepa wrote:
The point is in 2 days and a few mil you can grind the swords/doc/pike template and slaughter a full temp Jedi who took 2+4,5 monthsto grind.
Remember that the Force Sensitive Grind is timelimited to 4,5 months without workarounds.
Pikeman: 4.05 million xp
Novice Jedi: 206,55 million xp
Jedi is just something to do when you don't have anything else. I don't think it is intended to be a alpha class.
The reward of being different is fine with me. Although when I cannot upkeep my guildrole in pve with my Jedi, and all non-Jedi pvp templates I would like to create "must" have at least 3000Doc in it,that's an issue.
Kyodor wrote:
Jedi right now seems to be a time-sink for hardcore players. Obviously they want to elongate the grind to maximise the money they get out of subscriptions.
Jedi is just something to do when you don't have anything else. I don't think it is intended to be a alpha class.
With the SL changes, I'm thinking the SWG crew is using this as a last ditch attempt to force specialisation in groups.
MsNiL wrote:The reward of being different is fine with me. Although when I cannot upkeep my guildrole in pve with my Jedi, and all non-Jedi pvp templates I would like to create "must" have at least 3000 Doc in it, that's an issue.
Kyodor wrote:
Jedi right now seems to be a time-sink for hardcore players. Obviously they want to elongate the grind to maximise the money they get out of subscriptions.
Jedi is just something to do when you don't have anything else. I don't think it is intended to be a alpha class.
Cannot upkeep my guildrole cannot upkeep my guildrole. What exactly are you trying to do in PVE for the 1500 heal to be so damned inneficient? I see 4xxx doctors and CM's keeping groups alive without problems, and no they're not spamming heals.
About those pikeman videos. The second video shows him eating SYNTHSTEAK at 0:12, effectively absorbing 44% of all damage, 4 jedi now do the damage of 2. At 0:33 he dies and still has the synthsteak on. None of the jedi had their speed buffs on. His ruby bliel also went from a stack of 10 to a stack of 5,hence 5 stims were used. Total bacta shots used: 4. Conclusion: doctor is totally overpowered. /sarcasm off.
I cant fail to notice all the jedi whiners who come to these boards because they have lost to a non-jedi or a BH seem to miss the fact that the non-jedi had doctor buffs, spice, drink and food and actually managed his stomach to allow him to use ruby bliel and synthsteak while on the other hand, most jedi I've fought run around with nothing but their force aura and infusion macros on.
Food and drink more than makes up for the 0.5x difference. Stop whining and get a clue(might not be nice but simply put, some jedi need to).
Message Edited by Halae on 10-08-2005 11:12 AM
*edited by admin after cease and desist from the Retard's association of america on the grounds that portraying a mentally challenged person as a jedi was an attack on their intelligence *
Clearly from this post you want to be on par or better than any non-jedi profession.
You also are asking for the risks associated with being Jedi to be removed. I take it, you are one of the few jedi who missed the memo saying Jedi were a PVP class, which is most likely the case seeing as you are a full template jedi with little to no offense and are on a crusade against NPC visibility, those BH/MCM really gave you a hard time?
You want to know why jedi have become they way they are? Look at yourself in the mirror, its Jedi like you who cannot stand the risks associated with the class. You dont want the risks, dont expect any power. You will get no sympathy here.