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Thread: OK i need help with my buffs

Obata
Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:06 pm
#27

You are comparing your results to results that are already suspect (hence, he is asking for help). I didn't post it, but the power change on the two packs I made with different ABECs was also 1:1. THis isn't the case on all meds (AOE cures, for instance), but it is for buffs. All components contribute via a 1:1 relationship.



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Keldaria
Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:14 pm
#28







Obata wrote:





Keldaria wrote:

Purhaps you'd like to share your info on your packs Obata? (avian - reactive - subcomponents - final stats)






I could, but I don't see what it would accomplish. I'm not here to get into a contest over who makes the best buffs. I'm just trying to help the original poster. I saw you make an incorrect statement about how much power he would gain be changing his ABECs, and I corrected it. That's all. I'm not looking for an arguement. I just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about an aspect of crafting that has been well understood for many, many months.



look i ask for stats because i felt there was something we could learn here ..I don't need your smart remarks on this matter ether add to the conversation or butt out. I never asked for your stats to start a who makes the best buffs thread where you got that idea i'll never know. and as for this quote






Obata wrote:

I just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about an aspect of crafting that has been well understood for many, many months.




Understand this. SWG is a MMOG game .. it states right on the box that the game experience may change over time.. which means that they do change how things work from time to time.. I was mearly expressing what i know on this area because maybe you havn't knowtised a differance buti have....


Now i've put all of my facts on the table .. you seem to have done the same to yours so lets just drop the whole matter and whoever the reader(s) choose to beleave so be it .. i'm not here because i'm tring to corrupt or warp someones view on experimenting . i'm here to help them.


basicly saying i'm done beleave what you want


Message Edited by Keldaria on 03-03-2005 07:19 PM



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Resolute101
Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:04 am
#29

Ok this is what i found out



my avain is 935 qual 995 pe

gas is 945 qual

ABEC will vary

ADCRD 64

ADSD 73

all was maxed with effectivness

results


with a ABEC of 24 charges 9 power 915 power 32 charges

with a ABEC of 23 charges 11 power 917 power 31 charges

with a ABEC of 17 charges 16 power 922 power 25 charges

with a ABEC of 17 charges 16 power and a ADCRD of 65 i get 923 power 25 charges


so i thinkthere is some resource that SWGCRAFT doesn't have in the database which would give to the difference in power between me and the other docs on radient since it looks like some of the posters have said there is a one to one ratio with the sub compoants.


Question do you use the buff calcs that i have seen in the fourms and if you have do you think they are right on the money in terms of telling you your final results?



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Ojes
Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:37 am
#30

I do use a buffcalculator, but I made it myself based on the information found in some old threads that discussed the details (and a little testing for verification).


I just created an excel spreadsheet where I put the OQ/PE/DR of the various ingredients. My formula for final buffpack power is this:


=ROUND(+(((AvianOQ+AvianPE+ReactiveOQ)/3)*0.76)+40+aBECpow+aCRDMpow+aSDSpow,0)



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Keldaria
Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:08 am
#31






Resolute101 wrote:

Ok this is what i found out



my avain is 935 qual 995 pe

gas is 945 qual

ABEC will vary

ADCRD 64

ADSD 73

all was maxed with effectivness

results


with a ABEC of 24 charges 9 power 915 power 32 charges

with a ABEC of 23 charges 11 power 917 power 31 charges

with a ABEC of 17 charges 16 power 922 power 25 charges

with a ABEC of 17 charges 16 power and a ADCRD of 65 i get 923 power 25 charges


so i thinkthere is some resource that SWGCRAFT doesn't have in the database which would give to the difference in power between me and the other docs on radient since it looks like some of the posters have said there is a one to one ratio with the sub compoants.


Question do you use the buff calcs that i have seen in the fourms and if you have do you think they are right on the money in terms of telling you your final results?




k i see well more then likly its your gas thats holding you back from 930's +




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Obata
Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:13 pm
#32






Resolute101 wrote:

Ok this is what i found out



my avain is 935 qual 995 pe

gas is 945 qual

ABEC will vary

ADCRD 64

ADSD 73

all was maxed with effectivness

results


with a ABEC of 24 charges 9 power 915 power 32 charges

with a ABEC of 23 charges 11 power 917 power 31 charges

with a ABEC of 17 charges 16 power 922 power 25 charges

with a ABEC of 17 charges 16 power and a ADCRD of 65 i get 923 power 25 charges


so i thinkthere is some resource that SWGCRAFT doesn't have in the database which would give to the difference in power between me and the other docs on radient since it looks like some of the posters have said there is a one to one ratio with the sub compoants.


Question do you use the buff calcs that i have seen in the fourms and if you have do you think they are right on the money in terms of telling you your final results?




This does answer your original question. These numbers are exactly what you should get with those resources and components. That difference of 50 in the OQ of your reactive between your original post and this one explains everything. I have no doubt that the other docs are using different avian, reactive or both. There is enough room for improvement in the OQ of either one to get you into the 930s. If you have a vet reward resource deed, you could use that to look for the resource you're missing. It could take a while, but it may be worth it to you.




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Keldaria
Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:28 am
#33

Thx for the 1 Stars whoever did um .. was wondering when that would come .. guess by the looks of things a desearve a few of them


Oh and i forgot to mention in the previous post but i guess you were right Obata his resources were differant then mine which accounted for the extra differance


oh well for the record I wasn't lieing about me experiencing odditys with expermentation for the last 2 months. but whether or not you beleave me makes no differance to me. Just figured he was having simmaluar issues and tried to help.



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Resolute101
Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:04 am
#34

yes i went back and checked the gas after i saw some post. It was lower then i thought i am going to see what i can come up with . Thank you so much for all of your help


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