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Thread: Doc got hit too hard by the nerf bat.

Gorrlynn
Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:19 pm
#27

Yes, Doctor got hit with a nerf bat*shrug*. Ithappens. Ok so u don't like Doctor as it is now, fine your choice. But here is why i like Doctor now and I didn't have doc pre-CU. I can buff myself whenever i want no matter how crappy they may be in anyone's opinion. I can rez others. I don't have to worry about making or buying buff packs. I don't have to sell those buffs to customers who stand in a long line and squabble about others cutting in line(yes, i saw it happen). I no longer have to pay 12-15k for buffs!!!! I can heal my own wounds and keep my health up so i can survive longer in a battle. Bacta Infusion is my new best friend. Hey if u want to sit a starport and buff all day then please go right ahead but me personally I would rather out be doing other stuff like out hunting and that is how i support myself. I don't support my character by charging for buffs or wound healing. Heck, I even stop whatever i am doing at starports and heal those who have just landed without asking for tips, but hey that is just me. My point is that I am a Master Doctor because I like it and i choose it for me and not for everyone else. Sure i will gladly help out others. But I choose Doctor for me not because of the money factor.



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VBDotNetRulz
Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:32 pm
#28



The ways I see it, it wasn't a nerf - it was a complete change in what it means to be a doctor. A doctor used to have a more out of combat role but could still be used effectively on the battlefield; now we have no role other than to benefit a group (which we do very well). We have the ability to buff our group before a fight and our healing is wonderfull. Oh and about that thing about CM being the rez king - I would MUCH rather be rezed by a doctor than a CM because when a cm rezes you, you arent able to do hardly anything for like a minute afterwards and Docs also restore part of your health when you are rezed initially.


If you dont like what doctor has become, I have two words for you - change professions.
LordMalice_666
Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:15 am
#29

True. Docs got hit quite hard. All buffs except the adrenal boost are pretty much useless, all the buff durations are bad, mastering doc doesn't make any sense as the healing doesn't really get much better than around novice and in addition the 2 center branches are currently a joke. In addition docs don't have much to do anymore as they cannot even craft. One must really, really love being a doc to even think about keeping Master Doctor these days. I currently have 2 master docs but one of the masteries is going to say *poof* today and the other one will probably follow soon enough.



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TjadenFederov
Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:22 pm
#30

I just picked doc up again about a week ago after having dropped it several months ago, since All I was useful for was buffing. I didn't feel doc had a purpose pre-CUother than buffs. Now, its actually got a use, and I'm enjoying it much more than I did when i had it previously. I think Doc was made much more important now.



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Badname0291
Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:27 pm
#31

if you think that healing for 1616 with a single heal is a nerf, then sure weve been nerfed.

Admittedly we arnt the money making prof anymore, but its still good.



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La-grange
Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:10 pm
#32

I dunno.


10% buffs for a max of 45min. Pretty much crap. I can beat that bya long shotwith the proper stack of foods and spices. And if I really wanted too use it, well I do have that health crystal. So there isn't any need to buff anyone if all its going to do is give you maybe (if your lucky) one more hit. Against high end mobs, even grouped, its going to give you 1/2 a hit more to incapacitation or death. Like I said. Useless.


Bacta infusion rocks.In a short fight in a group that can go a long way with group survivability.


Bacta jab sucks. I don't care what the Doc cor says. I tried the food,skilltape,droid stack and I still outheal with bacta shot.


And speaking of bacta shot. I can outheal any CM any day of the week. Well that is if the CM is trying to heal just one person.


Yea, stabilize is pretty pointless these days. It does come in handy if I feel like dealing with the timer or if Im trying to remove multiple states at once.


Poison/disease heals. Crap. My smuggler/artisian can make stuff that does the same thing.


Rez. Can be extremely usefull. Yea its too bad that CM's got it too. It's also not very nice that everyone and their mother can rez themselves through various means. But still a very usefull skill.


Hate system sucks. I heal someone and im almost guaranteed death.








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NYMRULE
Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:53 pm
#33

People are saying that with this update, Doctors are being forced a bit out into combat. Honestly, I don't want to fight, but I'm not the guy everyone's lining up to get buffs from either. I'm the guy that runs a little shop near Theed that sells energy and medical supplies. I don't need the buffs to make money. I make millions off my energy, NOT my medical supplies. But every now and then someone will buy some medical stuff. I'm the guy that would go into the city and sit in the medical center waiting for people with wounds, NOT tumblers. I hate tumblers. It took me months to get Master Medic when I first got the game, and now people were making Doc in 3 days. Am I saying Doctors are useless? Not necessarily. But what I enjoyed was the fact that I was able to make my own stuff right there. Most of the time I would get my own resources and make stuff mainly for myself. I'd sell whatever I didn't need. But what I enjoyed most was healing people. I love helping people out, no matter what. Any game I play, you'll see that I'm the medic. But like I said before, I'm not one to go out into combat.Since when do you see a guy in a lab coat with troops on the field? The closest I ever see one is in a camp nearby... maybe. Combat Medics are the ones with the troops in the field. I see the Doc profession as more of a crafting profession. Doctors are a more "at home" or "in camp" sort of thing. So it might seem to me that, given what I understand, is that they are actually rendering the Combat Medic profession useless.


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Anach
Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:36 pm
#34






After5CST wrote:





Anach wrote:

I am no longer a Doc, as i couldnt maintain this and still have an income. Went Droid Engineer instead. Although I miss having Doc on hand and everywhere. There are now plenty of substitutes.




*doubles over laughing*


You went to DROID ENGINEER to have an income?!?


*clutches stiches in side*


That's probably the least profitable crafter class I can think of. Makes things that are pretty much just luxery/vanety items, extremely low demand, little volume, and very little recurring business.


My wife's a droid engineer, and I must admit, it looks like a fun profession, but if crafting income is important to you, I can think of many other professions that would be more profitable. Nearly all the artisan crafting professions, in fact.


I actually used my final respec to return to Doc, so the nerf bat thing is in the eye of the beholder. I'm perfectly happy with my character, and wish you the best of luck with your new profession.








all though this is off topic, I know DE isnt a huge money maker. Its just fun. Like doc was.


You see my guild isnt a pvp guild. So doc doesnt come in handy there. Most the PVE we do, stims and ruby Bliel willd works fine. For more difficult situations we can take one of the few docs we have left.


My doc vendor hasnt sold more than 5 items in the last 2 months except Stims.


The facts are that the last times ive been rezed its been by a Jedi or a CM or myself.


The last few times ive had my wounds healed its been by a Jedi.


The last few times ive been in a big fight ive been healed by myself a Jedi or a CM


So other than mobile buffing. THere hasnt been much need for a doc in our activities.


I only get 2 doc buffs. though can make do without them. Unless i want to PVP then every bit helps. The other buffs dont last long enough. BY the time everyone gets buffs, travels, arranges themselves and starts, the timer is up.


This is why i see a problem with docs.


Most actions are taken over by others. The money now is only tips, which is fine if you dont need money. Though if you want to make money you need to be a crafter or a combat profession. Healing cant compete. Yes in a perfect world healing would be free, but a person has to eat.


The majority of docs ive seen that dont care about the cash, already have multi millions anyway. So what encourages new docs. They can be the group healer, but with the agro, they spend more time watching their own backs than others and not everyone is always in range.


It makes me happy to see a doc now. Just because i rarely see one. The last one i saw i tiped 40k to buff and heal 4 of us before we left for our hunt, though by the time we got there the buffs were all but gone, except for the entertainer buffs. We used spice and food the rest of the time.


Yes its great a Doc can heal for 1600pts . Though i can hell for 1300 and keep using food and stims until i have a fulls stomach.



Doc needed nerfing, but they nerfed too hard. Took too much away at once and didnt replace it with anything. Its another broken profession in my eyes. Like Squad leader and ranger.





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