Doctor Archive
Thread: How much do u Charge to heal?
MyT_Chicken wrote:
I don't charge a Penny, I never have...ever (well maybe just once). But in the long run, the friendships you will hopefully make will far out weigh any amount of money you could ask for. Plus missions are by far the second fastest way to make money....the first would be selling looted items or resources.
So if you don't charge for heals and buffs, I imagine many of you earn money from hunting missions. Next time, why don't you go out there and kill tons of stuff and then just don't kill the lairs? It amounts to about the same thing.
DoctorRoswell wrote:
Gosh, most of you guys surprise me. Why would you take a profession that you've spent time, energy and credits working towards and throw its money-making ability right out the window? Sure healing and buffing doesn't cost you anything, but when I go to the doc in real life and he tells me to stop eating cheese because it gives me headaches, he still charges me for his opinion or recommendation. All you guys giving things away have killed doctor as a profession. You may think I'm mercenary, but charging for heals and buffs is a totally valid way to earn money in my opinion. I always take care of my guildies for free, but the rest the folks out there can expect to pay whatever I feel like the market will bear at the time.
So if you don't charge for heals and buffs, I imagine many of you earn money from hunting missions. Next time, why don't you go out there and kill tons of stuff and then just don't kill the lairs? It amounts to about the same thing.
I don't know how many credits I've invested in training as a doctor -- on the contrary, all those missions for grinding have been highly lucrative.
Part of the reason I don't charge for healing wounds is that, well, with med centers next to useless now, players have trouble finding us, and I hate AFK macroing in any profession. (Macros to make your life a little easier when you're at the keyboard and need to run a bunch of commands in sequence are nice, though.) So since they can't find us that easily, it's not a great money-making ability. As I pass thru starports and anywhere else I see folks, I heal wounds I see, and I occasionally get a tip, but I just do it because I like to do it. It doesn't take anywhere near the investment of time that crafting does, nor does it use resources, and those are the only two things I can conscientiously charge for. It takes more time to work out a charge than it does to actually do the work, and so why bother?
And I hate when someone says that doing something for free or cheap destroys a profession -- whether in real life or in the game. If 90% (or whatever the percentage is) of folks do something for a given rate, even if it's zero, that's what the market will bear. It's a free market -- find a way to differentiate yourself (ie you market yourself as a traveling doc who will go to groups in the wilderness and charge a high fee, I can think of 3 or 4 ways to make money as a doc) or find another way to make money, even another profession.
If I get in a good group with my guild or our sister guild, we'll pull missions that pay 8k and run through them very quickly, so at 16 missions for a full group, I'm making around 130k credits with little overhead. I rarely wear my armor in combat and almost as rarely use my weapon, so decay isn't a big deal for me. My only real overhead specific to the missions is the wear and tear on my vehicle, which is next to nothing. So if that's what the free and open market has settled to, there's probably excellent reasons for it. If anything is killing the profession (not that I think it's dead), it's certainly not docs being willing to freely heal wounds.
Finally, remember that it's a game and we play it to have fun, not just to earn Monopoly money. If we're all having fun, that's what really matters. And personally, I'm loving being a doctor.
Why do you think so many of the brightest people study for years and pay many thousands of dollars in tuition to become doctors? So they can give their time and services away for free? I don't think so.
I know you can make money in other ways. I've always made my living by hunting. All I'm saying is that docs giving their services away for free kill the chance for people who want to earn their primary living as doctors to do so.
Flooding the galaxy with free healing and buffs will make you popular, but it devalues the profession for others and deminishes the value of the time, work and yes, credits invested for things like special clothing, attachments, foods, etc.
I'm sure you're being nice and having fun, but I still say it screws up the doctor profession as a way to earn a living for those who would hope to go that route.
I like to imagine SWG as a real world that would make logical sense. Does it seem realistic to you that a professional that didn't charge for its services would exist at all?
If I thought it possible, I'd like to try to convince all of us doctors to have at least a minimum charge for services, but I get the feeling that most of you just want to use the profession as a way to win popularity rather than to make money and don't care a bit that you've ruined any possibility of it being a bread-winning career for those who would like it to be.
sniperscout75 wrote:
Just wondering what is about the average charge for healing someone, do u do it by individual or per point basis.
I don't charge unless I get a random /tell from someone I don't know. 10cr per dmg point. If they are rude 100cr per dmg point. IF they almost get on my ban list is 1k cr per point... payment always up front.
KupyiLabe wrote:
This has been great, but I am curious if you master docs charge to go halfway across the galaxy to revive "dead" players.
Post CU and when Jedi still got xp loss from dying to anything... I did it all the time. Now they were all freinds and or tipped huge so it didn't matter to me.
Now that Jedi only lose xp to BH deaths AND they can grind out the loss in a few hours (or less) I don't get those calls anymore. For anyone else... cloning is often a better optionover an average15 min wait for me to fly/drive/walk somewhere.
DoctorRoswell wrote:
Gosh, most of you guys surprise me. Why would you take a profession that you've spent time, energy and credits working towards and throw its money-making ability right out the window?
It's not about the money, it's about the profession. There is nothing in this game that I have to spend money on....NOTHING. If I want something that bad I will find it, the only exception to that is a +25 crafting suit that I paid 16 mil for and the only reason I bought that is because I have yet to ever loot a MExp tape in the 2+years I've been at this game.
Sure healing and buffing doesn't cost you anything, but when I go to the doc in real life and he tells me to stop eating cheese because it gives me headaches, he still charges me for his opinion or recommendation. All you guys giving things away have killed doctor as a profession.
No, what killed this profession, and continues to do so are the AFKers that play this game. Infact it hasn't only hurt this profession, it's hurt all of the profession. Because the people doing it have ZERO respect for others that play this game.
You may think I'm mercenary, but charging for heals and buffs is a totally valid way to earn money in my opinion. I always take care of my guildies for free, but the rest the folks out there can expect to pay whatever I feel like the market will bear at the time.
And there will always be people willing to pay for it, and that is your choice to charge.
So if you don't charge for heals and buffs, I imagine many of you earn money from hunting missions. Next time, why don't you go out there and kill tons of stuff and then just don't kill the lairs? It amounts to about the same thing.
I make more money off the resources I sell from my missions then I do the missions themselves. I make way more money off the loot I get then the missions and resources that I sell. Infact Imake more money buying low selling high, just because I know people will pay for it. Sometimes it's not about what you have, it's how you use it.
DoctorRoswell wrote:
Sure being a doc and healing people for free is fun. But again I say, look at the real world. If doctors gave away their services and medicines for free, how many doctors do you think there would be out there? I think you'd be hard pressed to find any other than a few philanthropists.
It's called a "Free Clinic"....which is umm free.
Why do you think so many of the brightest people study for years and pay many thousands of dollars in tuition to become doctors? So they can give their time and services away for free? I don't think so.
Because they know stupid people will pay top dollar dollar for asprin. Instead of going to the store to get it. And do you really think your paying for the Dr? Because your not, your paying for the electicity, water, janitor, security, food, TP, soap, sheet's, computers, ect. The doc probably only sees about 5% of what your actually paying for.
I know you can make money in other ways. I've always made my living by hunting. All I'm saying is that docs giving their services away for free kill the chance for people who want to earn their primary living as doctors to do so.
If you came to this profession for money.....hahah you picked the wrong one....even before the CU got rid of our stuff. The overhead cost for our Pre-CU consumables was way to expensive to call it "Primary Living". Could you make money, Yes, but I can think of better ways to go about making money.
Flooding the galaxy with free healing and buffs will make you popular, but it devalues the profession for others and deminishes the value of the time, work and yes, credits invested for things like special clothing, attachments, foods, etc.
Gee, kinda sounds like what happened to Entertainers, and every crafting profession in the game during the whole Holo-Grind thing....But that didn't stop people for destroying the economy. Infact, it sounds like what slowly happening to this profession everytime someone gives out an AFK healing Macro on this forum just about every day.
I'm sure you're being nice and having fun, but I still say it screws up the doctor profession as a way to earn a living for those who would hope to go that route.
I like to imagine SWG as a real world that would make logical sense. Does it seem realistic to you that a professional that didn't charge for its services would exist at all?
Does it seem realistic to you that you think SWG is real? You know it's just a game right? You should know better then to bring real world thoughts into a game. I mean, realistically, everyone in the game should RP 100% of the time considering this is a Mass Multiplay Online Role Playing Game.....But yeah we know how realistic that is.
If I thought it possible, I'd like to try to convince all of us doctors to have at least a minimum charge for services, but I get the feeling that most of you just want to use the profession as a way to win popularity rather than to make money and don't care a bit that you've ruined any possibility of it being a bread-winning career for those who would like it to be.
I don't know what side of the bed you woke up on, but your additude is pretty....You know what, that's ok, it doesn't matter, I think I've spent enough time replying to your two posts that you probably aren't even going to read-to-understand anyways. So if there is anything your going to read hopefully it will be this: Are you also going to charge a group to shoot / swingyour weapon? I mean you've invested in that. No? I thought not, so continue to do your part in ruining whatever combat profession you are playing by not charging your group for doing your part in the game.
Zimal wrote:
how much do i charge to come across the galaxy and rez you... simple nothing
but i usually won't know about it unless your in my PA so.... if it's just a random person generaly not.. besides cloneing really doesn't hurt that much anymore
Ahhh trick question. 
Honestly it just depends what I'm doing. If I'm busy, I usually tell them no....If they ask again, it's 100k, if they complain it's 500k, if they still cry about it it's 1 mil. Amazingly I've actually had people pay 500k for a revive...never 1 mil, they usually get the hint.
If I'm just slumming around doing nothing I don't charge anything. But it just depends on how they ask me really; act like a child get treated like one. Act like a grown up, get treated like one. It's really never the fact that I'm to busy, or I don't want to do it....It's more that I just don't like to deal with the "uberness" of some people. All people are treated equally until I'm given a reason not to do so....this include guildies...I am not a personal slave.
Plus your right, generally speaking, cloning doesn't hurt that much if you know how to take care of your stuff. Me, I burn through armor like it's cool. Went through about 3 sets of RIS in a month...needless to say my Armorsmith wasn't to happy with me.
Really not crabby or arrogant (as I took the second post in this thread to be - which is what got me started). Just arguing a point for fun because I was bored. Look, in a nutshell, here it is again... Any profession that gives away its services ruins that profession as a viable way to make a living. I'm NOT saying it ruins the FUN of the profession or that there aren't a million reasons to want to continue to play it. I'd be a doc whether I could make a lot of money at it (like I did before CU) or little (as I do now). It's really fun.
Let me repeat this one more time. Giving away services for free doesn't take the fun out of a profession. It does; however, screw up the profession for others who would like to make a living at it.
I didn't see the logic of your last point. Of course, I am basically paid every time I hunt (swing my blade) in a group. The loot and mission rewards are shared so in essence the group is charged for my services.
In the same way, I think all of us doctors could benefit from "sharing the income" of providing healing and buffs - if you freebie-folks would just stop giving it away.
You haven't ruined the fun of the profession. It's great. But those who give it away ruin the ability to make much money at it as a career. At some point in the game one needs a profession that can earn a good living. One in which a wage is paid for services rendered. Doctor could have been one if only freebie-docs hadn't devalued its earning potential.
I was thinking that along with our usual "free range" healing, it might be neat if there were healing missions for docs where you'd be guaranteed a reward and not have to hope that someone would tip you. Then this whole question would be a moot point.
May the Force be with you.
MyT_Chicken wrote:
really... you'd think he'd be happy with you paying him roughly 7mil(more or less depending on your server market) for a suit... personaly i repair the hell out of my helm and legs, and then when they get close to getting broken get a new suit... already have 2 decoration suits 
and 3 suits i use