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Thread: You know guys I think it is about time buff prices go up.
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cornellius
Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:42 am
#27
This is a good idea.
But everyone must be free to give their services.
Generally i look around what are the other doctors are making buffs at which price. Then i usually use the same prices.
The prices must depend the buff quality i think.
If you beleive that your buff packs are good; you can make 10-12k for each set. If all six stats over 3hours and 2400-2500 range its good idea to raise the prices. Because still there is a source problem in Wanderhome to make best buff packs and people get better buffs in other galaxies.
Why dont we try to get sources lower prices.
I can get Lovann (last spawn avian) for 30cpu.
Good luck.
But everyone must be free to give their services.
Generally i look around what are the other doctors are making buffs at which price. Then i usually use the same prices.
The prices must depend the buff quality i think.
If you beleive that your buff packs are good; you can make 10-12k for each set. If all six stats over 3hours and 2400-2500 range its good idea to raise the prices. Because still there is a source problem in Wanderhome to make best buff packs and people get better buffs in other galaxies.
Why dont we try to get sources lower prices.
I can get Lovann (last spawn avian) for 30cpu.
Good luck.
Ialwysdie
Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:19 am
#28
I have a TKM going for pistoleer character on Gorath and a CM/MD on Chilastra.
Speaking from my combat class on Gorath I believe the buffs I've gotten were very good price as I usually am able to get my costs for them back in only a couple missions which can be done quite easily. They don't even have to be the +2500 ones. I would do good with +2000 ones. I usually make anywhere from 75-100k profit of of one set but i'm sure some people make more. If you were on one of the adventure planets that would be even more helpful and wouldn't mind paying 20k for buffs as it cuts down on my travel time. At 20k I still make a decent profit. This don't even include if I manage to get any loot that I could auction off.
Speaking on the behalf of the Doc's even though i'm just getting into it having recently obtained MD is that the combat classes are really making out too good. They can get a buff for about 10-15k earn anywhere up to 75-100k or more and those that harvest the resources turn around and sell them sometimes for prices which IMO are insane. I can understand paying higher prices for the Mineral and chemical resources as your not receiving payouts to run harvestors but for Organic resources to be so high is just rediculous.
IMO the ones that want to keep buffs low are the ones that do more PVP then Hunting as IMO the ones who are doing the Hunting and Resource gathering from the Mobs are getting a little too greedy.
Get a 10-15k buff go Hunting do a bunch of missions that pay about 8-10k that the mobs give high quality resources that they turn around and sell for 10-20cpu or more.
I know High Quality resources can become rare which will drive prices up on the resources but on behalf of my mostly combat character I would do just as well with a set of 1500-2000 buffs that last for a little more then 2hrs and still get the same Mission payouts.
IMO the Docs who hurt the most are the ones that choose to play more of a support role.
If my chilastra character could Harvest his own Meat and Mine my own minerals only person I would need to buff is myself. If more Docs take this role I could see Buff prices being more insane then the High Quality resources used to make them.
Eyedun
Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:38 am
#29
OnlyMaestro wrote:I'll still undercut ya bums and sell for 10KSay for example the average buff pack has 29 charges...a crate of 10 each for all six on Eclipse sells for 990000...lemme do my math...if I sell all my buffs for 10K....29 charges times 10 is 290 charges for each stat...290 times 10,000 is...2.9 million making an average economic icrease of 2 million for me after I add in what it cost to buy the packs.I'd say I'm happy with 2 million.
if only 50% of the 29 you buff (lets say 14) go and run missions for 2 of the 3 hours you provide, making 300K (conservative) an hour.. thats 174 million credits made.. and your willing to settle for 2 million of that as your share ? .. your mad.. you buff someone for 10K and they run off and make 600K inside 2 hours with it (easy to do with 30K janta missions on dant) .. and your ok with 10K as your share?
crazy.. i used to think 10K was highway robbery for buff's until i realised just how much money i could make running missions on just one mediocre 2100 point 2 hr 45 min buff.
i still think for what they are getting right now.. buffs are WAY under priced .. i think a fair minimum price should be 2 CPP (credits per point) .. if you hit all 6 stats for 2100.. thats 12600 points .. or 25.2K.. that seems like amuch fairer price. Actually i think Number of points * (Buff dur in hours -1) .. ie 2100 for 2 hr 45 will be 2100*6*1.75. a 3 hour 15 min of the same hit will be 2100*6*2.25
sounds fair to me with the current state of resources.
weshutch
Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:42 am
#30
OnlyMaestro wrote:
I'll still undercut ya bums and sell for 10K
Say for example the average buff pack has 29 charges...a crate of 10 each for all six on Eclipse sells for 990000...
lemme do my math...if I sell all my buffs for 10K....29 charges times 10 is 290 charges for each stat...290 times 10,000 is...2.9 million making an average economic icrease of 2 million for me after I add in what it cost to buy the packs.
I'd say I'm happy with 2 million.
2 million is nice...but in the time it takes you to buff 290 people....you know the rest.
You really cant look at a profit margin withou taking into account the time it takes to achieve it
Thats really what this post is about, what is you're time worth? (along with all the issues that go along with sp buffing...but thats another thread) 
Message Edited by weshutch on 07-02-2004 11:48 AM
Nimhnoid
Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:05 pm
#31
average price on bloodfin - 25k per pack for good packs.
Some docs such as myself charge 35k, only because of the amount of customers, and they sell
MorvenDee
Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:10 am
#32
I buff every unbuffed member of my faction that I see. I don't charge them a cent.
Crates of buffpackscost me almost nothing because I harvest my own resources and do my own crafting, and as I've been stockpiling since the game's release my resources are excellent so my packs are among the best. It's my contribution to the GCW -- my faction's members get free buffs and free heals, saving them time and money and enabling them to get more XP or be ready for PvP anytime.
I don't understand you people who try to run buffs like a business and talk about money all the time. I took a slow, long-term approach and built up my character to do this over many months.Buying your medsis a short term solution and juggling pricing handicapsyour effectivenessasdoctors, particularly if you're GCW focused.
Coeus-Slaba
Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:36 am
#33
Here on bria buff prices are 12k normally i can get 25k for priority buffline (i call it an express lane) you make one when theres lines like 20 people long for 2 doctors u open a line saying EXPRESS LANE BUFFS 25K SHORT/NO LINE! and boom u wilk have a 2-3 person line and make a KILLING anyways i think buffs neeed to be 15k or more seeing the trouble buffpack makers have to go thru just to make a buffpack
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