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Thread: You know guys I think it is about time buff prices go up.

Mglol
Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:33 am
#14

Hm.. the prices on buffpacks have been lowered to a more sensible 20k for top notch stuff.. do the math and you will see that 10-12k for buffs is a quite nice income if youre on your start of doctoring and not making your own buffpacks. We (Kublae Enterprises) will supply enough packs during the next months to supply all Chimaera i belive. Still got plenty avian and componentresources for another 10k buffpacks so keep buffing and triple your cash from what you spent.



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Canadianjoo
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:40 pm
#15

personally, i think combat balance could only help the demand for buffs, as people will go into not solo'ing krayts remission and get buffed as much as possible to kill what few things they can.




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famousbarry
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:44 pm
#16

I have been a MD for all of 2 weeks, and I am a casual gamer. I have been in SWG since December and have seen the value of a Buff go up. Not only it seems that the demand has crept up too. also high in price are the prices of the inputs to our buffs. I am still too new to make my own buffs, but I know that with avian at 400cpu, buffs cannot be cheap. also, buffees now require us to be eating bivoli. "are you using biv?" they all say. I dont know folks, I charge 15k and then laugh at the people who say its too much. My buffs with biv and BE cloths are hitting for 2400 all stats, 2550 action. Plus I use havla to maximize the number of people per charge of bivoli. Biv on my server is 160k for a crate of 25/3 uses. I think that 10k or even 12k is way too low for our valuable time and service. as someone else here said, why dont we just buff ourselves and go run missions? we are taking time to enhance others, so they may buy the best armor and av-21 speeders. I always tell them, after 3.5hrs of missions, how much are you gonna make? What kind of loot are you going to get? how much xp are you going to earn? we could charge 20k per buff as far as im concerned.


Rchuno
Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:09 pm
#17

I agree demand and quality of buffs have both gone up since I started. Heck I had mastered TK as a wook before I even knew that buffs existed and that was before TK became a good class. (wow that was like 9 months ago... been playing way too long) I just compensated by taking CH as a side class. Sure I died alot more, but what did I care? Now though I would feel crazy without armor and a full set of 2500+ buffs. I remember that we also used to feel good about 2.5 hour buffs that averaged 2000. Well anyway I don't think anyone should have to raise their prices... Heck I buff for free just for fun sometimes and not to be mean, but because I like to buff and talk to people. Same reason entertainers dance and play (not the afk macro monkeys, but the real entertainers) I didn't become a doc for the money I became a doc for the fun of it. I think everyone else should too.



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LordOfFatness
Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:16 pm
#18

If you want to raise buff prices, so be it, but be aware of the consequences. Your supplier may raise their buff pack prices. After all, why shouldn't they? You are still making profit since you raised your prices. Then the hunter will say, "The docs raised the prices on their buff packs, so I can charge more for Avian and Herbivore Meat". Do what you want to, but you may not like the ramifications of your actions. Just don't come back here crying when you have to pay even more for your meat.
KEDevious
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:05 pm
#19

i have been a doctor on Bloodfin for a while now. And everyone knows that Bloodfins prices are WAY inflated. But if everyone keeps going up on prices, the newbs will get poorer and the rich will get richer. Me on the other hand live by a different philosophy:Make more by charging less. Basically it works like this:


1. I walk into Coronet Starport and look around. 3 or 4 Master Docs are buffing 12 k for 2200-2300 buffs with 3 hour duration. Each doc has a line with 5 or 6 people.


2. I sit down in Starport...consume bivoli, call my droid, and spam my buff message once.....Master Doctor Buffing for over 2500 per buff...3 hour duration 10k. All overts and Coverts are welcome.


3. People leave lines of other Docs. 15 people in my line one or 2 left in theres.


4. Other Docs scratching heads wondering what just happened.


I have found that contrary to popular belief, people do care about the cost of there buffs. And many times, if they can get a better value, they will take it. And building a good reputation as being friendly and honest goes a long ways too. Heck, I see so many docs not even heal peoples wounds...they are only buffing docs, yet they charge full price for their buffs even though people have these wounds, and it takes away from the buffs. And dont even get me started on the afk buffing docs....or necro docs as i like to call em.


I for one will never raise my prices. If people want to raise prices, thats fine. Whatever floats ya boat...just remember that it can and most likely bite ya on the rear.Because while you are happily doing your 15k buffs on those 3 customers thats waiting in line...there will be people like me that will be happily buffing away with there throngs of customers.





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TheWhiteRaider
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:47 pm
#20






Skotticus wrote:

Price fixing! Shame!







Price fixing my foot. This is a case of making it worth the time it takes to buff people.


Price fixing is generalypeople getting together to makethe price goes far past the amount it should be.




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TheWhiteRaider
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:53 pm
#21






Sotaudi wrote:






KamaKuro wrote:

Go ahead and raise your prices.. the market will dictate how you do..


I for one will not..







/agree


If you want to raise your prices, that is up to you. If you do not feel you are making enough profit, then it is your right to charge whatever you feel is appropriate. If the public wants to pay it, they will. That is the way a free market balances supply and demand.


However, coming here and trying to get everyone to do the same is a bad idea. You can justify buff prices anyway you want. You can make outrageous claims about how people can get multi-million credit Krayt Pearls with your buffs, but that is disingenuous. I have killed or helped kill a couple of dozen Krayts, but I have never gotten a pearl. Are you going to give me a refund if I go out to get a Krayt Pearl using your buffs and do not get one? Even if I did get one, did you buff everyone in the group that I almost certainly had with me when I killed it; therefore, giving you some claim to helping in the overall kill? Do you adjust your buff prices higher for people going out getting high value loot vs. lower prices for some new player just trying to survive against durnis and butterflies? Do your costs go up simply because someone is going to use your buffs to get high value loots?


Coming here and trying to get others to go along with your pricing is, indeed, price fixing. We hate when people do it to us, so why would we do it to others? It is also counter-productive.


We charge higher buff prices, and they charge higher prices for Avian meat and other resources.This raises the costs of producing buffs,which increaseyour costs if you produce your own andineveitably raises the costs ofbuff packs for those who buy them instead. Smugglers use the same logic to charge higher prices for slicing, chefs use the same logic to charge more for food. All prices go up, and we are right back where we were. We have more money in our accounts, but only temporarily have greater buying power because eventuallly the market will level prices at the new higher level, and you will be back here asking people to raise their prices again, causing another round of inflation.


If your costs go up and you cannot make a profit, then by all means, charge what you feel is necessary. If you feel you need to get more for your time raise your prices. The market will decide if it is the correct price. But do not ask the rest of us to price fix, because it only leads to economic disaster.


My buff prices will remain at 10k for the public.


Message Edited by Sotaudi on 07-01-2004 10:25 AM




Duh it is going to bring another round of infaltion, butyou go up with the water or drown as much as I hate to say it.


I just see meat(200cpu), class 4(150cpu), and all good resources going up and not to mention I am not a multi-millionare so I can't compete for avian as well as other docs.


The reason I came here was to ask you guys what you thought.




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TheWhiteRaider
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:58 pm
#22






LordOfFatness wrote:

If you want to raise buff prices, so be it, but be aware of the consequences. Your supplier may raise their buff pack prices. After all, why shouldn't they? You are still making profit since you raised your prices. Then the hunter will say, "The docs raised the prices on their buff packs, so I can charge more for Avian and Herbivore Meat". Do what you want to, but you may not like the ramifications of your actions. Just don't come back here crying when you have to pay even more for your meat.







That is why I make my own buffs.For the most part I also harvest my own resources too, but once in a while I will have to get a good stock so I will enlist help.


And I do know all the problems with raise prices, but realy if you look at it in the same time I make 30k buffing I could have done two solo missions.




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LordOfFatness
Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:06 pm
#23






TheWhiteRaider wrote:





LordOfFatness wrote:

If you want to raise buff prices, so be it, but be aware of the consequences. Your supplier may raise their buff pack prices. After all, why shouldn't they? You are still making profit since you raised your prices. Then the hunter will say, "The docs raised the prices on their buff packs, so I can charge more for Avian and Herbivore Meat". Do what you want to, but you may not like the ramifications of your actions. Just don't come back here crying when you have to pay even more for your meat.







That is why I make my own buffs.For the most part I also harvest my own resources too, but once in a while I will have to get a good stock so I will enlist help.


And I do know all the problems with raise prices, but realy if you look at it in the same time I make 30k buffing I could have done two solo missions.





This isn't meant as a flame by any means, but if that is the case, then I suggest you do 2 solo missions.

Kichijiro
Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:12 pm
#24

on average from what i have seen is some buffs with +2325 to stats for about 3 hours, just average stats, 28 charges a pack, 100k for a full set


thats 28 buffs for 100k, if you charge 10k a pop that is a net income of 180k...making almost double what you actually paid


i personally think that this is a fair exchange so buff prices dont seem to be in need for a price raise imho...but even so, buffs(along with everything else) isworth what oyu can get out of it, so if you can charge 20k for a buff and get good money, congratulations




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KnightHawk420
Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:25 am
#25

Yeah lets raise prices. YAY


Who wants to be the #1 Doctor Buff Sales Leader of SWG? Can you go 200k? 300k? 400k? per buff? lets find out. muwaahahaha




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NebLightsky
Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:00 am
#26

Here on Bria the prices go up and down every day anyway. If I'm out of bivol my buffs usually hit around 2200 for 3hrs 17mins if I have bivol they are 2400+ for the same amount of time. For the 2200 I charge the normal 10k but for the 2400 I charge 12k. Nobody really seems to care because they know they can make double that running 1 solo ER mission.

I had some uber buffs that were buffing for 2600+ and 2800+ in med cities for 3hrs 7mins and I charged 15k for them and nobody had a problem because of how good they were.

So anyway I wouldn't care if the prices stayed where they are or went up I still make around 3 times as much money back as what I spent on the buff packs so I can't complain. If it does go up we will probobally see no change at all people wil quite happily pay anything for buffs, heck I was charging 25k for buffs at fort tusken, I had a queue and nobody complained.



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