Doctor Archive

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Zaax wrote:

gloria,

the problem i have with this , is realy 99% of the players i have met are really ok.

whether they asked me on dath or endor, or at the rare times (about once every two weeks) that i pull out my droid and buff in CNET.

a few days ago i tried an experement.

it was crazy time, and i called out: "buffsetc etc for 14k. this is the express lane" thats it more or less. a few came over and left without saying a word. and i never had a line longer than3 player. but still i buffed about30 players straigt till i got sick of it and closed shop. NOT ONE BAD WORD.

i have a deal though: i have in my spam : "if you are a new player with 2 or less badges i will buff you for 2k" . usually no more than two players a shift take me up on it. i have done this ever since i got Doc.

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GloriaGaynor wrote:

ThelaMisan, I understand where your coming from and all I can say is it is a shame when fellow doctors get at each others throats like that. IMHO we take enough grief from the ungrateful masses and shouldn't have more thrust upon us from our fellow Doctors.

I've had similar horror stories such as your Dark Jedi encounter. Early in my carreer I would buff in Coronet, long lines as usual, (more for the feeling of serving others than actually making credits that can be had by hunting), but there I was buffing away when I'm killed in one shot by an Imperial out to prove himself. Obviously I had inadvertently buffed a declared rebel and flagged my self, but in the general confusion of buffing and answering questions as to how good my buffs were, I didn't even notice the flag. Of course I was unbuffed and being a doc, I have all of my stats in mind pools leaving me with something like 400 health and action when not buffed. I just sort of layed there, dead at the front of the line while the 10 or so people waiting for buffs got livid at this Imperial for killing me. I was buffing Imps, Rebs and neutrals at the time so that Imp didn't make any friends. He tried to claim that he shot before realizing I was just buffing and not at all interested in pvp but this seemed absurd to me as I had my tag up, medical droid out,(by the way he killed my droid too) and a long line of people. I keep a list next to my monitor called "Do not Buff", of course this poor sap made it on there.

By the way, how does one Death blow you without coming close to your incapped body? Is there some kind of special shot that also kills you?

Which gives me another idea, how about a sort of Doctors Black List. I think we would have to be very careful in implementing anything like this as it could be abused easily, but I think it could also be a powerful tool to help discourage this type of griefing.

What do you think about a Dr. Black List?

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Riflemen have a special that can DB from range, but only them.

And if he was not out to PvP, why did he shot in the first place? He must have seen your inbalanced HAM.

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yebach wrote:

This is absolutely pathetic. 50k for buffs is ridiculous. Break down the actual cost of the pack at say 20cpu -50cpu on average to produce one buffpack. You are looking at 156 total resources for an Enhance Health D. This equates to 3120 - 7800 per pack to actually make. At 15k per 6 buffs that's 2500c per buff you are making. At worst most buff packs will run around 20-30 charges netting you 50k - 75k income. So your average cost to make a pack is 5460c with a net profit of 45k-70k per pack if you make your packs. If you buy packs already made for 15k each you still make a profit of 35k - 60k per pack depending on the amount of charges you have in the pack. After your first round of buffing you will more than have paid for your investment in BE clothes. Depending on your server, Bivoli won't be that expensive to buy either. I usually get a crate of 25x3 +25 at 125k each that last for 14 min. That comes to roughly 1667c per Bivoli but since it lasts for several buffs worth, that cost is nearly negligible.

So after your initial investments have been paid for:

110+ Droid 75k

BE Clothes +25 WT 50k

Your main costs of investment are:

Crate of +25 Bivoli (back to back will last you about 17.5 hours at 14 min each) 125k

Set of 18 Buffpacks (Made/Bought with 20 charges per pack) 98k/270k

Say you use up 20 seconds per application of buffs those 3 packs would last you 2 hours before you would run out and use a total of 9 Bivoli in that time running you 15k for the Bivoli.

Your total net profit if you make your packs(15k charge x 20 charges for 3 sets): 787k

Your total net profit if you buy your packs (15k charge x 20 charges for 3 sets): 615k

So you are telling me that charging 50k is reasonable why? So the above figures can come out like this?

Total net profit if you make your packs(50k x 20 charges for 3 sets): 2.887 mil

Total net profit if you buy your packs (50k x 20 charges for 3 sets): 2.715 mil

The reason most players treat us Doctors so rudely is because of price gouging like this. It starts with the resource sellers and filters down because everyone wants a big piece of the pie. There are doctors out there who are unwilling to settle for less than 900+ meat and they pay ANYTHING to get it. You are the ones who drive the prices up. Players will sell the meat at what the most desperate person is willing to pay.

Message Edited by yebach on 08-25-2004 08:18 PM

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I think you are missing the point. The costs of the resources + equipment is not the issue. Time is the issue. You make a lot of money in the end, but it takes time. I tried buffing the public right when I got master doc because I heard you make tons of money that way. When I checked the money I made that day, I saw that more money was made doing solo missions.

The other issue for me is boredom. Public buffing is boring. I have not been griefed or anything, but explaining how to bank tip for the hundreth time gets tedious. Its just not a very fun use of my time.

So you can make more money doing solo missions, and have more fun (for me). I don't buff the public because when I play this game, I don't want to spend my TIME that way. Its been said before but, you should charge what your time is worth to you.

Bottom line-- if its not worth your time to do a janta mission for the price of the buff, then don't. Play the game how you want to. That's what I'm doing.

Nice thread, and very informative for a non MD. I have a couple of observataions:

1) I'm a master swordsman and was master pike and can make 700k off of one buff running solo missons. I always tip dancers and musiscians 10k min and will pay 20k of 30k for a buff. When you make that much cash 4k or 5k difference in buff price is immaterial, comvenience is everything and a nice experience is what counts. If i get a doc who chats and is prepeared to RP or use funny buff macros "stand by for the buff or your life - ooooh yes babay are you feeling that!, all done now go kill some jedi" being my favorite, then it's fun for everyone.

2) Im also master dancer and get nothing sometimes for hours of work - but the social aspects are amazing and all my best friends ingame have been met through this prof. I have had lots of abuse, as a female character - from the extreme "im going to stick my **edit** up your ass" to mild "lets go out back and make out".

3) I have an MD friend who just buffs for us guildies and the odd civilian passer-by and he has a great time. He even does the buffbot thing occasionally - i guess the message here is he balances his game play in a healthy way so he doesn't burnout.

For me the real message is lighten up and get in the the roleplaying - it makes dealing with situations easier, and you can get away with murder if you do RP Also, real people play in SWG so you will get RL scenarios scenarios repeateing themselves when RL jerks become Virtual world jerks - i cant see why this should surprise anyone. Usual rules apply i guess.

Anyway, just observations. Thanks for a good thread......