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Thread: Do Not Support Doctors that overcharge for buffs!! (by a doctor)
daz007
Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:57 pm
#14
when i first started buffing the cost for me on each buff was 7k ( i pay for packs not make them myself) wth? do you think was a reasonable amount to charge to make money at this? wat do you think the mark up should be on that? 3k seems to not make it worth my while.
Vermicious_Knid
Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:23 pm
#15
zdrive wrote:
Should it not all be determined by supply/demand? Regardless of the methods docs use to get their buff packs or how lazy they may be.
If Joe Blow is selling his buffs for 10-15K each, & you come along & charge 7K - you'll get all the customers right?Well you'll definitely get some customers at least.
But even if they ALL move over to your line, some will see the empty queue in front of Joe & move back over there, happy to pay his price. If they don't, then he'll either have no choice but to decrease his price or miss out on sales. If he wants his queue to increase or decrease accordingly he can adjust his pricing. Buff quality will also play into the customer's decision obviously...
Is it not that simple
She said "suite" instead of suit of armor. She also mentions the word "fair" repeatedly. I'm guessing she's European. I love the Europeans I know, but they definitely have a different idea of how to run an economy than we do here in the States. Maybe it's just a difference of perspective, which is just fine.
What is not fine was the pontificating, self-righteous, smug sermon that opened this thread.
AphroditeX
Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:46 pm
#16
ok maybe i went off on the deep end a little. But after being called a stupid c*nt on my own server for charging 7k for buffs when others were charging 20k in coronet, i was a little angry. If i had provoked it that would be one thing, but it wasnt provoked.
anyways.....
I can understand wishing to make a profit and for charging for your time and effort ((or credits if you buy buff packs)) i just dont see the logic behind the "well he is gonna make _____ amount of money on these buffs" as a reason to increase prices, because the personmight not. Not everyone uses solo groups.
Charging more on outward planets is always fine, because you are saving those there a trip back to coronet. Supply and demand is also a good gauge for prices. but what was 10k yesterday, shouldnt jump to 20k the next out of jealousy.
Message Edited by AphroditeX on 07-18-2004 10:47 PM
DarthXanthic
Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:15 am
#19
Buffs are the most important and demanded commodity in the game.
If weaponsmiths can charge millions for krayt weapons and armorsmiths can charge millions for stun armor, I see NO reason to charge a "minimum" price.
If you are selling buffs you are doing it for the money, no reason to just slide by when you can make a massive profit.
Greenbulb
Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:41 am
#20
*shrug* i'm broke Duh i'm doing it for the money.
Everyone that Wants more Credits is Greedy anywho
Guess how Greedy them Newbs are!
Guess how Greedy that Billionare is!
Guess How Greedy Combat People are?
Guess how Greedy everyone is?
Ect ect ect
It will never end. People will say we are greedy because we put up the price out of the "limit" combat people set for us
Combat peepsComplain and we consiter them greedy because they are wanting buffs For free so they can make more money
Cut the crap.
Everyone on the Game is greedy. OK i get it.
Now let me set my Own Price and stop blameing me for something the "greedy" rangers did to us. that and i'm Also Setting the price up because the Combat people DO complain because they are "greedy" for their own Money. Buffing is one of the Most Stressful thing i can do on my computer...and thats consitering alot because i come across alot of Bull**edit**.
Ialwysdie
Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:49 am
#21
As far as the pricing for buffs and resources I basically said forget this.
I will not buff the public not worth it IMO. Keyword is BORING.
I will just buff myself and heal the people in my group.
As for the original Poster your price is fine for your setup as YOU GATHER YOUR OWN RESOURCES.
So I take it that ALL MD"s now have to have Aritsan/Scout so they can do just that. Sorry I can fit Scout into the Template I'm creating but Artisan just won't cut it. Sad thing is I'm only short by a few SP's.
Come to think of it I would probably make out even better just setting up a resource shop if that was the case. Why sit in a Starport for hours when I can just find a few that do and sell the resources to them. Then I can be the one to charge the insane prices that seem to be in place regardless of the quality.
Prices for everything in this game IMO are rediculous IMO.
Eyedun
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:20 am
#22
AphroditeX wrote:ok maybe i went off on the deep end a little. But after being called a stupid c*nt on my own server for charging 7k for buffs when others were charging 20k in coronet, i was a little angry. If i had provoked it that would be one thing, but it wasnt provoked.anyways.....I can understand wishing to make a profit and for charging for your time and effort ((or credits if you buy buff packs)) i just dont see the logic behind the "well he is gonna make _____ amount of money on these buffs" as a reason to increase prices, because the person might not. Not everyone uses solo groups.Charging more on outward planets is always fine, because you are saving those there a trip back to coronet. Supply and demand is also a good gauge for prices. but what was 10k yesterday, shouldnt jump to 20k the next out of jealousy.Message Edited by AphroditeX on 07-18-2004 10:47 PM
As much as I think prices need to rise.. we DONT need that kind of grief between Doctors. When i am buffing for 15K or 20k or 25K (depending on the situation) I always send a /tell to any other Drs around infomring them of what i'm doing and that i'll be sending some business their way. I also ask politely if they believe their services are worth 10K or if they'd consider joining in with riasing buff prices. Mostly Drs are a little frightened to raise the price, and more than a few are disgusted. They will come around.
Still no need for people to call you names.
My #1 reason for a buff price is beleive it or not, Novice Drs and Tumblre monkeys. there is next to nothing for a novice Dr to do to earn a decent amount of XP. How do they "train" in what we Drs do if all thats open to them is healing tumblers? If we riase prices, novice Drs can craft packs and sell 1500 power buffs (or lower or higher), make a little cash and EARN some XP. They will LEARN what Doctoring is all about.
As it stands now if your not 2200+ for almost 3 hrs.. no one wants your buff. Iff a 2200 for 3 hrs costs 15K and a 2400 20K and a 2500 25K .. then your 1800/1900/2000 novice dr buffs will be worth 8-12 K and all of a sudden your novice Drs will be useful.
Thats my #1 reason for the price raise. #2 is the game is too easy with buffs.. people need to learn how to play without them so much. If the 2500+ buffs are more expensive.. then the lower level players will have to learn to play with lower buffs and not rely on spamming specials so much. we will be building better Drs and better players all round.
Eraint
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:33 am
#23
I don't think buffs should go for any less than 20k. It cost ungodly amounts of time and money to either gather all resources yourself, or pay somebody to do it, then make the buffs, spend time sitting around and putting up with ignorant people crying about the quality/price/duration of buffs.
Not to mention the peopl always running around cursing at doctors or lack of doctors. Until I finish up my doctor tree, I always pay for the highest priced buff I can find, regardless of stats.
Not to mention the peopl always running around cursing at doctors or lack of doctors. Until I finish up my doctor tree, I always pay for the highest priced buff I can find, regardless of stats.
muldernz
Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:06 am
#24
eyedun couldn't have put it better.. that is exactly the reason the prices should be increased
Soenso
Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:13 am
#25
Absurd...
10K for a set of buffs that I'm going to earn back in about 20 minutes? That's cheap. Buffs are undervalued. Who can put a price on something that makes you practically invincible for 3 hours. I spend 10K, and I can set my character to killing a beast and walk away, do my dishes, read the newspaper, take the dog on a very short walk..
Buffs seem to remove any fear of dying (I've never died while buffed). Now, the only challenge is if I can stay awake through all this grinding. Buff value should be set by its demand and the medical communities ability to supply. If I'm a doctor (which I'm not) and I'm the only one sitting in Coronet, I'm going to charge what I want. Players need it, and I'm the only one who has it.If they just won'tpay it, then the demand isn't high enough to match the price. I then lowerit until itsacceptable. Another doctor shows up, and then there's some competition so I drop my price to compete. Thats fine. Geez, don't price fix everything. Money is easy enough to get in this game as it is.
Docs, this is the one dimension in this game where you have value. Exploit it.
MasterYoan
Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:17 am
#26
It is your choice to reduce your price mate
but 10k for 2500 and 3h15 buff it s a joke
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