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Thread: More rude new docs..

Ardente
Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:12 pm
#14

I usually tip when someone else trains me. Even 1k is a great "im grateful" amount. I've never demanded to be paid but am always thankful if i get tipped. Afterall, its not the amount but the fact thathe appreciates it.






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McProd
Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:00 pm
#15

I have never expected payment for training though at times I have received tips.


I have at times tipped people who have trained me and I have gladly given these tips for several reasons.


The main reason I have tipped is if someone has gone out their way to help me. Be it meeting me somewhere, missing a shuttle to train me waiting for a while for me to get to them - basically I have always tipped when I felt I had inconvienced someone.


I would have accept the original posters request to wait till he had finished the hunt quite happily and although I wouldnt have paid for him to return if he had quit hunting and travelled back to train me I would have felt I had inconvienced him and tip him accordingly.l





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OpethRebel
Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:19 pm
#16

Requesting tips is of poor quality.


I tip generously unless a tip is requested--in which case I find someone else.




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Nevs
Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:54 pm
#17

As a Master Doc early on, I learned all my skills from the NPC Trainers except for Intermediate Wound Treatment Speed (I gave a friend12 stacks of resusc kits) and Pharmacology II (I gave 500 high OQ & PE organics.) I learned (and earned the XP for) all my boxes except for master doc, wound speed 4, and wound treatment 4 in Tyrena.


I have never asked for payment for teaching someone (though several times when I'd pay the NPC for a skill 5 or 6 people would suddenly need training in that skill and would not give anything.) I did delivery missions to pay for all of my skills.


I train people if they ask nicely and courteously. I will not travel to train someone unless I know them. I have this policy because I've grown tired of waiting for someone and their "5 minutes" to get there turns into 20-30. I grew tired of being referredto every l33+ doctor as training for free.


Don't get me started on etiquette! I log in on my doctor the other day (the first time in over a month) and see an old friend and start chatting. I get a /t a bit later from someone asking me if I can enhance them, and they want the +2500 kind. I reply that I don't use advanced components and that the best I could get is about 2k, and that this is the first time that I've logged in on the char in a month so I don't have any factory components to make them. He replies "do you have any on you that you could use on me?"


All the while I'm chatting with my tailor/surgeon friend how I took a break because I was tired of all the /t's to heal/enhance/make stims for right then and there for people. I think I'm just going to put an afk message up: "Hi! if you are looking to be healed/enhanced/have meds made please bring thenecessary resources to me and credits to place in the slot in my pack to begin operating the Personal Doctor Droid!"



Back on topic.When I was still a novice Doc,while on Tatooine shopping for a droid I was engaged in conversation with someone. I got into saying how I needed to run some missions to get trained in Int Wound Treat. A person behind me, a Master Doc, said they'd train me for $$$. I replied to them "Oh? and how much?" He replies 8k. Hrmmm...8k to be trained by them, or 6k to be trained by an NPC.


Sometimes the people on Starsider make me wonder. (This is not saying Starsider doesn't have it's share of really nice people either!)




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HernandezBallin
Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:26 am
#18

I tip more for training in Fencer and Doctor than I do in Scout. Fencers get higher tips than doctors for training me, scouts get the shaft, but still a tip.



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Legende
Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:33 am
#19

A bit off topic, but I must say I love your sig Starphire... I laughed, because I found myself reading it perfectly... haha... I'll probably steal it now for other boards/forums that I post at...



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Netromancer
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:03 am
#20

I dont think its an american custom to ask for money for a service. That practice has been around since time was recorded. It seriously depends on how you are asked. I dont charge most of the time, but if someone is rude or demands training, I ask for payment in advance. Yes, sharing what you've learned is great, but the truth remains that there are a lot of rude bastards in this game. I mean ALOT. I do my best to make the gamejust a little bittougher for those with no manners. And as for those who are grateful for the service, and ask nicely, free training all around.



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Niamb
Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:48 am
#21

I never ask for payment for training. Yes, I did pay NPCs for quite a bit of my training, but that was because I was impatient. It was my choice not to wait and find someone else. I do charge for healing, but not for training. I consider it professional courtesy...I also don't charge other medics/docs for healing. I tip others for healing, but not for training. For training they get a gracious thank you and that is all I expect in return.


But, I don't drop whatever I am doing to go train people. They can come to me. If they do that, I am happy to train them even though I don't need the apprentice points any longer.


A friend commented that as a weapon maker everyone wanted big fees for training. I said, at the time, I had never been asked a fee for doctor or medic training. I have since been asked once to pay a fee for training and he ended up training me for free after we chatted a bit. I think those that go into our profession tend to be more helpful and less focused on return than other professions.




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I_Love_Wookies
Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:43 am
#22

Hehe, hows this, Im wearing my master cm title, im in the med centre on dathomir with my friend (he is my rl friend, so he loves me and master doc/ master cm, as he gets free buffs and stims).


I'm buffing us to run some missions, all of a sudden /tell *from somebody*


*somebody*:
Buff me man
me -
Well actually me and my friend are going on a hunt, ive only just stopped in med center to heal/buff ourselves before we head out






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I_Love_Wookies
Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:52 am
#23

Hehe, hows this, Im wearing my master cm title, im in the med centre on dathomir with my friend (he is my rl friend, so he loves me, as he gets free buffs and stims).


I'm buffing us to run some missions, all of a sudden /tell *from somebody*


somebody:
Buff me man
me:
Well actually me and my friend are going on a hunt, ive only just stopped in med center to heal/buffme and my friend before we head out. If I had the time I would buff all 6 stats for 5k, perhaps when I return back to misions terminals.
somebody:
whatever.
me:
sorry? yes me and my friend are doing missions, so im alittle busy.
somebody:
well a) your buffs stink (i had trouble with this one as my friend just got a 2.2k action and a 2k health, with some nice 1.7's on secondaries) b) your attitude stinks (right).
me:
sorry,play this game for my own enjoyment andnotjustcater to your needs,I still have my own things to do, people to see, things to make.


Crazy thing was my mate went for a smoke, so I buffed the fella, lol, I think theres too much perception about doctors are only playing the game to help all the fighters, let me add this, I chose the profession to heal ppl, that doesnt mean I'm on 24/7 call out, hehe






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I_Love_Wookies
Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:54 am
#24

*Edit button* blast, sorry for triple





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Gwenolydd
Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:57 am
#25

And everyone wonders why I refuse to wear my Master Doctor title nowdays. lol When I was getting Master Doc, there were 2 on the entire server and the other 3 of us were still grinding crafting. We had to pay for all our training since there really wasn't anyone else! We ran tons of missions just to pay for our training and it was hard, but worth it.


I am now working on Combat Medic and still refuse to ask for training from players. I just go into town and pay an NPC...less hassle.


I also never heal people I don't know or buff them. I use to and had fun doing it till the rudeness started. Seems that the longer the server has been up, the lower the maturity level of the players gets. I get tired of hearing, "Buff Me! Heal Me! Give me Stim's!" Seems the word please has taken a hiatus on Flurry lately.


I know I sound bitter, but I am not. Have given up on the general population though. I stick to hunting/pvp with my friends and meet new people all the time who become friends. There also seems to be many more Master Doc's now...let them deal with the rabble..hehe



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Gunman_Felix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:13 am
#26

Because of my level I usually get called on to train medics, not doctors, but I see it as the same principle. I have 1700 APs, which is more than enough to master the two professions I'm working on, but I still always train for free if someone walks up to me and asks. I mean, it's just two mouse clicks, it's like 20 seconds out of my life, why not help a guy out?


But the key part there is "walks up to me and asks". Any strangerasking you to drop what you're doing to jog back into town and train them is, IMO, hopelessly self-absorbed. That the person would be outraged you wanted payment only confirms this.


It's also true (I forget who on this thread mentioned it, sorry) that rude players are sadly not limited to the Doctor profession. I have a theory that I haven't been able to prove yet about why there are so many jerks in this game compared to most othere. I think that most games like DAoC, AC, AO etc all attracted players from other mmorpg's. These are people who'd been playing such games for years and had an idea about basic etiquette and manners. SWG, I think, is attracting an awful lot of people who've never played these games before but rather are primarily Star Wars fans. And a lot of them seem to be 12 years old to boot. Hopefully they'll catch on before too much longer and play nice.


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