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well im sorry if i hurt any fragile feelings--but im sick and tired of seeing people complain when most of them havent even bothered to TRY and adapt to the system and realize that things change and that this might in the end play a better game. You ALL have KNOWN for MONTHS that armor and buffs would be gone--why is it such a shock now? Please give me a break. I had the most diverse med business on my server and was told i was the ONLY place to go for cm Meds --basically i lost a 7-9M credit a day business just selling cm stuff and buffs and so forth. Yes it irked me that i wouldnt make this anymore , but instead of running to the forums to complain and continue to barrage everyone with your thoughts on the CU sucking I thought well how can i see this as an opportunity to do something different like WS or AS or try my hand at BE crafting. Its time to drop they crybaby complaining act and suck it up and move on!

Message Edited by Tonko on 04-29-2005 02:32 PM

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MasterARP wrote:
well im sorry if i hurt any fragile feelings--but im sick and tired of seeing people complain when most of them havent even bothered to TRY and adapt to the system and realize that things change and that this might in the end play a better game. You ALL have KNOWN for MONTHS that armor and buffs would be gone--why is it such a shock now? Please give me a break. I had the most diverse med business on my server and was told i was the ONLY place to go for cm Meds --basically i lost a 7-9M credit a day business just selling cm stuff and buffs and so forth. Yes it irked me that i wouldnt make this anymore , but instead of running to the forums to complain and continue to barrage everyone with your thoughts on the CU sucking I thought well how can i see this as an opportunity to do something different like WS or AS or try my hand at BE crafting. Its time to drop they crybaby complaining act and suck it up and move on!

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I'm very sorry to say this, but your attitude really makes me sick. You know what my problem is? It is not the broken stuff which was never tested before live and not even my lost millions of credits. It is your so high-praised change being pushed upon me. I dont mind trying new stuff, not at all, but I want it to be MY decision, not someone else's. If I want to try new stuff, I want to try what I want and when I want. I dont need a big daddy DEV telling me "from now on, go try something else". It is a choice, my free will, that is taken from me. And that, my friend, I cannot and will not tolerate.

Asker,

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Tonko wrote:

All you folks that complain about CU are missing the boat!! I'm a Master Doctor and I ask you to look at all the positives I list below:

1) Now you can make people glow with the new Buck Rogers comic book graphics!

2) Sorry- I couldn't think of anything else positive...

Message Edited by Tonko on 04-29-2005 02:32 PM

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How about..

2. You've got a headstart on learning the Priest class on EQ2?

Hey, it could be worse. The only two things that a Master Smuggler had going for them was Feign Death and Slicing, and they nerfed slicing and feign death didn't work last night. At least you had a prfoession with benefits...

how in the heck are we suppose to rez over and over in the village grind...phase4 i think.... where the docs have to heal over and over and quickly, and then on top of that you have to be able to defend yourself from pirates and thugs, so you hit, wait 5 sec, heal, wait 5 sec, hit, wait 5 sec, heal urself, dont forget to untarget yourself to heal yourself or you get the invalid target , then all the while defend and run across the village to rez some one all while you have about 5 high lvl mobs constaly shooting at you (how come they dont have a timer?)...but wait tka no longer can defend thenselves while running so i have to take damgae all the way over there, using my crappy buffs and hope that they dont run out, then wait 20 sec for the rez meter to go up and then "hope they get rezz'ed all the while fighting and healing...hmmm not happening.

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Asker80 wrote:

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MasterARP wrote:
well im sorry if i hurt any fragile feelings--but im sick and tired of seeing people complain when most of them havent even bothered to TRY and adapt to the system and realize that things change and that this might in the end play a better game. You ALL have KNOWN for MONTHS that armor and buffs would be gone--why is it such a shock now? Please give me a break. I had the most diverse med business on my server and was told i was the ONLY place to go for cm Meds --basically i lost a 7-9M credit a day business just selling cm stuff and buffs and so forth. Yes it irked me that i wouldnt make this anymore , but instead of running to the forums to complain and continue to barrage everyone with your thoughts on the CU sucking I thought well how can i see this as an opportunity to do something different like WS or AS or try my hand at BE crafting. Its time to drop they crybaby complaining act and suck it up and move on!

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I'm very sorry to say this, but your attitude really makes me sick. You know what my problem is? It is not the broken stuff which was never tested before live and not even my lost millions of credits. It is your so high-praised change being pushed upon me. I dont mind trying new stuff, not at all, but I want it to be MY decision, not someone else's. If I want to try new stuff, I want to try what I want and when I want. I dont need a big daddy DEV telling me "from now on, go try something else". It is a choice, my free will, that is taken from me. And that, my friend, I cannot and will not tolerate.

Asker,

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well if you feel that strongly about it then perhaps you should cancel your subscription and protest that way --directly to the game makers--rather than spew boring incessent whines on the community boards. You really think that your arguement of " i want to choose not be told to do something " is compelling enough for the devs to say " hey omg asker your right, lets cancel the thousands of man hours working on this so you can have the choice to buff or not"

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Asker80 wrote:

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MasterARP wrote:
well im sorry if i hurt any fragile feelings--but im sick and tired of seeing people complain when most of them havent even bothered to TRY and adapt to the system and realize that things change and that this might in the end play a better game. You ALL have KNOWN for MONTHS that armor and buffs would be gone--why is it such a shock now? Please give me a break. I had the most diverse med business on my server and was told i was the ONLY place to go for cm Meds --basically i lost a 7-9M credit a day business just selling cm stuff and buffs and so forth. Yes it irked me that i wouldnt make this anymore , but instead of running to the forums to complain and continue to barrage everyone with your thoughts on the CU sucking I thought well how can i see this as an opportunity to do something different like WS or AS or try my hand at BE crafting. Its time to drop they crybaby complaining act and suck it up and move on!

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I'm very sorry to say this, but your attitude really makes me sick. You know what my problem is? It is not the broken stuff which was never tested before live and not even my lost millions of credits. It is your so high-praised change being pushed upon me. I dont mind trying new stuff, not at all, but I want it to be MY decision, not someone else's. If I want to try new stuff, I want to try what I want and when I want. I dont need a big daddy DEV telling me "from now on, go try something else". It is a choice, my free will, that is taken from me. And that, my friend, I cannot and will not tolerate.

Asker,

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Let me start this off by saying that I'm undecided about the CU. Some things I like better. Others I don't. Don't mistake me for a CU supporter.

The biggest mistake you're making is thinking it's your decision. It's not. It's not your decision. It's not your free will. It's definitely not your game. It's the developer's game and we are technically, legally, and simply leasing it from them. They aren't here to specifically make you happy. They're doing this to reach out to a much larger crowd (the casual gamer) that you may or may not belong to. No matter what the "polls" say, they simply aren't reliable. I personally think the casual gamers greatly outweigh the hardcore gamers here (probably not in the forums, but definitely in game). Basically, suck it up. This is what I truly think it's going to take to get more players into the game and any change that tries to accomplish that I'll gladly try and maybe even support.

Just a side note, you know what this argument reminds me of? It reminds me of all the people who get pissed off at Lucas when he goes and makes a stupid change to the original trilogy. So what if Greedo shot first or if young Anakin now appears at the end of ROTJ. It doesn't change the overall story. And really, the bottom line is this. It's not your story to tell. It's Lucas' and the only person he has to keep happy is himself. The only thing you have to decide is whether or not you want to take that trip with him.

This is the exact same thing with Galaxies. Are you coming along for the ride or not?

Respectfully,

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MasterARP wrote:
well im sorry if i hurt any fragile feelings--but im sick and tired of seeing people complain when most of them havent even bothered to TRY and adapt to the system and realize that things change and that this might in the end play a better game. You ALL have KNOWN for MONTHS that armor and buffs would be gone--why is it such a shock now? Please give me a break. I had the most diverse med business on my server and was told i was the ONLY place to go for cm Meds --basically i lost a 7-9M credit a day business just selling cm stuff and buffs and so forth. Yes it irked me that i wouldnt make this anymore , but instead of running to the forums to complain and continue to barrage everyone with your thoughts on the CU sucking I thought well how can i see this as an opportunity to do something different like WS or AS or try my hand at BE crafting. Its time to drop they crybaby complaining act and suck it up and move on!

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You are missing the point. Docs are not complaining because buffs and armor got nerfed - common belief _is_ that they were overpowered and too mandatory. The problem is the devs overshot their goal by far, they did not only just make doc products less mandatory and balanced, they made them useless.
The problem is - as somebody already mentioned - the devs try to tell players how to play. I am paying my monthly fee to have fun playing a game I like, and having the achievements I made since I came to this game wrecked in one publish because the devs did balance by nerfing everything down to the same level and taking out complexity so they can easier control limits is _not_ my idea of fun. If I started today I would almost be as far as I am today, which cant be right.
SWG has turned into an EQ2 / WoW clone as far as I can tell, just hidden by some nifty boxes with special abilities. But what it all comes down to is just that it isnt important which box you take as long as you get a combat level bonus from it.
And I tried CU before judging. I played on TC5, TC-Ep3, TC-Ahazi and now TC-live.

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vaterg wrote:
how in the heck are we suppose to rez over and over in the village grind...phase 4 i think.... where the docs have to heal over and over and quickly, and then on top of that you have to be able to defend yourself from pirates and thugs, so you hit, wait 5 sec, heal, wait 5 sec, hit, wait 5 sec, heal urself, dont forget to untarget yourself to heal yourself or you get the invalid target , then all the while defend and run across the village to rez some one all while you have about 5 high lvl mobs constaly shooting at you (how come they dont have a timer?)...but wait tka no longer can defend thenselves while running so i have to take damgae all the way over there, using my crappy buffs and hope that they dont run out, then wait 20 sec for the rez meter to go up and then "hope they get rezz'ed all the while fighting and healing...hmmm not happening.

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You are not supposed to kill-rez for easy FS xp in the village, if that is what you are referring to.
If you are talking about the pure phase 4 medic quest:
You just need to heal different people _while they are in combat_. It doesnt matter how much you heal or if you heal them once or twice, touch them one time while they are in combat and you get credit for it.

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RogueGeek wrote:

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Asker80 wrote:

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MasterARP wrote:

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Let me start this off by saying that I'm undecided about the CU. Some things I like better. Others I don't. Don't mistake me for a CU supporter.

The biggest mistake you're making is thinking it's your decision. It's not. It's not your decision. It's not your free will. It's definitely not your game. It's the developer's game and we are technically, legally, and simply leasing it from them. They aren't here to specifically make you happy. They're doing this to reach out to a much larger crowd (the casual gamer) that you may or may not belong to. No matter what the "polls" say, they simply aren't reliable. I personally think the casual gamers greatly outweigh the hardcore gamers here (probably not in the forums, but definitely in game). Basically, suck it up. This is what I truly think it's going to take to get more players into the game and any change that tries to accomplish that I'll gladly try and maybe even support.

Just a side note, you know what this argument reminds me of? It reminds me of all the people who get pissed off at Lucas when he goes and makes a stupid change to the original trilogy. So what if Greedo shot first or if young Anakin now appears at the end of ROTJ. It doesn't change the overall story. And really, the bottom line is this. It's not your story to tell. It's Lucas' and the only person he has to keep happy is himself. The only thing you have to decide is whether or not you want to take that trip with him.

This is the exact same thing with Galaxies. Are you coming along for the ride or not?

Respectfully,

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Well, I'd like to remind you that we (that includes you too, btw) are not paying for Devs making themselves happy (or even Lucas). We are paying for Devs making US happy. And dont draw parallels with the movies, I really fail to see a correlation. This game is interactive environment, so the details mean more to us here, than in the movies. This is a game we play, so no, it is our story to tell, not the Devs'.

PS: And before you're telling me to not get too excited "because it is only a game", let me remind you that it is RL time and RL money we invested in this game.