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Thread: Doctor Complaint!
Cailid010 wrote:
Arcdischarge wrote:
You're an a-hole. As for you thinking it was free, I call B.S. on that. You know buffs cost at least 6k and you went into with the idea of cheating this guy with the excuse that he didn't state his price up front. Doctors should get payment in advance b/c of retards like you.
Wow, such hostility from someone that wasn't even there. Did someone piss in your cornflakes this morning?
I've seen a few doctorsthat wouldgo around offering free buffs. As for buffs costing 'at least 6k', I've seen doctors on my server charge4-5k. The highest I've seen is 6k. And then any sub standard buffs would get a full refund.
With your attitude I can imagine a lot of your customers choose to go elsewhere for their repeat business.
Just calling it like it is. Someone bringing this baloney into the doctors forums should expect it. You'll notice his own guildmates, who know him best, paid his bill and gave him a talking too. He may have not liked it, but the fact that his guild did not support him is a good indicator that there's more to the story. It would be enlightening I am sure to hear the doctor's version of the story.
And as for customers going elsewhere, I remain to this day inundated with requests for buffs despite having merchant tags and /afk "I don't buff" up for months. And although I have never been on Flurry server, I highly doubt your picture of the buffing market is typical.
Cailid010 wrote:
Maybe his guildmates just wanted to shut the guy up because he was whinning. Or maybe they figured it was just cheaper to pay than go throughany hassle.
Maybe. It's hard for guilds to shake reputations as cheats or exploiters. But they were there and we weren't, and a guild worth its saltis going to back up its own member in a dispute if that member is in the right. There's more to the story here I'm sure.
But look at the guys name on the original post: 15 posts? More likely he's a noob who just joined the guild, they agreed he was a weasel, paid the doctor and shortly after his guild leadership rebuked him.
Scoooter wrote:However 6K for a D buff is **edit** cheap especially on Dath.
You should just pay him for that one lol
But the price should have been stipulated up front
Back when I was still buffing for money, I charged 1k per stat, 5k for a 6-pack. This was the standard price. Now I see much higher prices and my friends say that they usually get worse buffs than they'd get from me. So they pay 8-12k and get crappy buffs. In Coronet. Ah well.
If I ever went pack to buffing, 5k is what I would charge, except if I'm out in the middle of nowhere (say 4km from the nearest civilization). In that case I'd charge 10k.
But to you who make money on this and provide a good service, great for you. For you who still charge 7-12k and and provide sub-par buffs (bad buff packs of low wound treatment skills, not bad due to the huge variance) - you probably won't get many return buffs unless the recipient is uneducated. :-)
Traigus wrote:
There are many docs tat buff for free, or for tips, even at master.
Thy show up here often in the pay for buffs threads.
I would agree it was the docs fault (in general). Because, even if all docs charge every time, how was the poster to know if the doc was charging 4, 6, 15k?
If he had 6k and the doc said 12k, then we still ahve the same problem... that is what makes it te doc's fault.
-T
/agree
Although I can't say I've seen a Doc buff for free...but I'm sure some do...but I totally agree...its the Doc's fault for not charging up front, but its also the guys fault for assuming it was free.
-Egri
Cailid010 wrote:
That's just it, they weren't there. The doctor went whining to them with his story. Who knows if he even told the truth? From the sounds of it the guild didn't even get the posters story before paying off the doctor. You automatically assumed the original poster was in the wrong though. You weren't there and you don't know the whole story.
And what does his post count have to do with it? Based on that logic then I'm right and you're wrong since my post count is higher. There's people that have been around since release and don't even read these boards, much less post on them.
You seem to base your opinion that he was worng on the assumption that he should have known the buffs would never be free. I've seen people that give things away for free. Some people are willing to take things at face value too. Like an offer of something for free. Without being told in advance that it would cost him, a lot of people would have taken it at face value as an offer of free buffs.
Let me spell out the logic on the post count, since you're having a hard time comprehending it. His 15 posts suggest that he is either a very new player or doesn't participate in the forums much. No it doesn't prove anything as he could be someone in the game since release with 15 posts or someone's altbut it seems likely he's a new player. He acts like one. If he's a new player then his story and interpretation of events are less believable because he is presumably very inexperienced on what is customary in the game. Aside from that, post count means nothing -- I don't see how anyone could read my postotherwise.
As far as assuming goes, you're assuming the doctor was "whining". And you assumed his guild didn't get the whole story before paying the doctor. I read his post and it sounded phony to me, that's how I made my decision. If someone with a guild tag cheated me out of payment, your **edit** right I would bring it up with the guild leadership. Doing so privately is actually doing the guild a favor by not badmouthing them publicly. That's hardly whining.
His own guild did not back him up, which speaks volumes.
And yes people should know the buffs aren't free. The only ones that aren't are within guilds, friends or holo-xp-grinders (who for sure are advertising "free buffs"). This was not a case of a doctor ninja buffing and asking for payment. The doctor didn't say "i will buff you for free". If he was unsure he should have asked how much or expected to pay a normal price, which 6k is.
There is no universal price.. even on 1 sever, forget about cross-server.
-T
Traigus wrote:
6k is by far not the normal price.
There is no universal price.. even on 1 sever, forget about cross-server.
-T
Too true. On my server, some people charge 5K, some 6K, some 10K (me). I've even had people offer 15K for a set. My personal belief is anyMD charging less than 10K is selling themselves short. Odds are you worked your ass off to get that title. Let the up-and-comers charge 5K, 6K, etc.
Arcdischarge wrote:
Maybe. It's hard for guilds to shake reputations as cheats or exploiters. But they were there and we weren't, and a guild worth its saltis going to back up its own member in a dispute if that member is in the right. There's more to the story here I'm sure.
But look at the guys name on the original post: 15 posts? More likely he's a noob who just joined the guild, they agreed he was a weasel, paid the doctor and shortly after his guild leadership rebuked him.