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Thread: How can I recharge my Droid with a macro?
Obata
Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:54 am
#14
Dr-J wrote:
How do most of you handle this? Does the friend with the power droid have to be near you and logged in? Can he be logged out of game and still have his droid helping you? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I believe that most people just have an alt character they pay for and log him in with droid near you to recharge, but that is not necessarily an option for me.
So any other solutions would be great...gotta figure out this droid thing.
Most of us don't run AFK buffing macros at all. Nor are we inclined to tell people how to do it. You say that you can't play this game with being a millionaire. I very much disagree with that, but that's beside the point. The fact is, you can't avoid recharging your droid manually, unless you get 2 friends with power droids to befriend the droids to you and stay logged in. There are no other solutions.
Dr-J
Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:43 pm
#15
Well, frankly, I have found that persistance is the key. I have one droid and tested things...finally i have a solution.
So it may have been asked and you may THINK there isn't an answer, but YOU'D be wrong.
So it may have been asked and you may THINK there isn't an answer, but YOU'D be wrong.
trs1cg11
Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:32 pm
#16
i gotta tell you guys the millionaire thing is on the money i have a doctor toon and an arch and just to keep my arch in enough ore i gotta put out a field of 100 harvs. if i can help off hours player get a buff when im not able to play hey im happy to. right or wrong there is a market for afk buffs and since you can choose not to use then that is the way for you to go. i just find it odd how much a weapon costs versus say a crafting station of the highest order. a gun that at tops uses 2k res(just a guess im not weaponsmith) compared to an object needing half a dozen factory runs. worth 300k? point is do as you wish within rules of the game and leave others to do as they wish.
kanemack
TUA , Talus
kanemack
TUA , Talus
Twitchie
Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:56 am
#17
I'm probably beating a dead horse here, and since repeating macros are due to be nerfed, it's probably moot anyway.
1. I became a doc to help people. Almost every time I play, I see some buffbot in starport, with some poor guy demanding his money back because the macro goofed, and he didn't get a full buff. Buffbots can't heal wounds before buffing, don't respond to player conversation, and can't fix a problem if it happens.
2. As far as I'm concerned, doc isn't about money, and if that's your main concern, you can honestly make more getting an uber-fighter template, a good weapon, and run missions for 12k a pop, plus better XP for FS stuff.
3. The 'I have an alt toon' argument is invalid. Personally, I only run one character, on one server, and I make more than enough to not only get by, but have a nice house, credits in the bank, and my rent paid. And I do all this while sitting at my keyboard, doing everything without a macro. Not to mention, I can't afford two accounts, nor can alot of people. In real world terms, saying "I can run a macro and outclass you in wealth, possesions, and XP because I can afford 3, 4, or 5 accounts" takes away from the game as it was intended. Run one account, work for the toon you like, and like the toon you work for.
4. The argument 'it's boring' should be telling you something.........go do something else. If you can't find the time to press a few keys, and earn your credits by actually playing the game, as the devs intended, then perhaps you should be doing something else.
5. Regarding buff bots, it's a problem for playing docs in a couple of ways. One, we have competition with AFK players, who don't actually care about what they do, only that they make the money. Secondly, a buffbot can run 24/7, and therefore charge less, while those of us who choose to actually play the game lose customers, either because we're not there all the time, or because "so and so's 'bot is charging 2k less, let's go there instead". Couple that with the fact that buffbots are unreliable, and as I said, can't heal wounds, don't respond to a problem, let alone fix it, and docs have gotten a bad name. As many docs as I hear say they love buff bots, those same docs complain about the entertainer 'bots when their "fighting toon" needs a mind heal...........you can't have it both ways, can you?
On topic, for the first guy.
There's another problem with AFK buffing. Your droid dies, you can't recharge with a macro. The only command in the radial menu that works is the first one, not any of the others. Somebody pays you for a buff, your buffbot droid died at the last buff, your AFK buffing macro can't recharge your droid, nor can it refund the money to the poor sap that just paid 12k for something he won't get.
You don't need a power droid, and the suggestion that some other guy with a power droid should sit next to you and charge your droid for you while you sleep, work, or watch a movie is disgusting. All you need to do is sit at your computer, push a few buttons, and if your droid needs a charge, pull up the radial menu, click Droid Options, and Recharge, and assuming you have a battery in your main inventory, it'll charge in a second, and you can go about buffing.
If that bothers you so much, then might I suggest you drop doc, and go for something you actually enjoy?
*note---sorry if this sounds so negative, but I'm dreadfully tired of hearing "man, you're the first doc I've seen all day that's actually here!" "dude, you can heal wounds???" "I tipped, your macro will work, right?" or worse yet............"Buff is 10k". "Doc, I'm not tipping until you're done, I got screwed over with my last buff."
Message Edited by Twitchie on 03-15-2005 04:59 AM
Dr-J
Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:46 am
#18
Nothing like the guy who thinks this game was built by the Devs to have this perfect little universe where everyone cares about there profession and love each other.
This game was built for Sony to make money...if they weren't it wouldn't be available.(yes...that is a period).
1. I don't think there is any thing wrong with you wanting to help people...just don't expect everyone to feel the same way you do. As far as Macros go that don't work...NOOB! It's just like anything in this game. If you are doing something with someone whom doesn't know how to do it...don't expect good results.
2. How long does it take you to run a mission for 12k? If it takes you longer than 1 minute then i'm making more money buffing.
3. The ALT toon is valid...alot of people do it therefore it has to be considered in the argument for validation of that argument. Again, not sure what you mean by 3,4 or 5 accounts takes away from the game as it was intended...Sony intended to make money...more accounts...more money.
4. I agree about how it takes away from the profession if you are wanting the profession to be as YOU described..but not everyone is the same. In this game Docs are like Teachers in the real world...people need you...but no one wants to pay you what you are worth and that was the case before Buffing was even in the game to the extent it is now. I rarely make money Curing, or healing people...they expect it for free.
Lastly, the droid doesn't have to die...See answer #1
and know that I do enjoy it. I actually play live Buffing doc probably close to 5-6 hours a day and let him run as a service to those hard workers that need buffing when I can't be there...but it is not on 24hrs a day.
You also keep suggesting that I don't enjoy doc...I don't see anywhere in the post that says that...just looking for a solution to something I knew could be worked out and eventually I did find my answer and actually by your comments it sounds like maybe you are the one that is tired of Doc and what it really is.
This game was built for Sony to make money...if they weren't it wouldn't be available.(yes...that is a period).
1. I don't think there is any thing wrong with you wanting to help people...just don't expect everyone to feel the same way you do. As far as Macros go that don't work...NOOB! It's just like anything in this game. If you are doing something with someone whom doesn't know how to do it...don't expect good results.
2. How long does it take you to run a mission for 12k? If it takes you longer than 1 minute then i'm making more money buffing.
3. The ALT toon is valid...alot of people do it therefore it has to be considered in the argument for validation of that argument. Again, not sure what you mean by 3,4 or 5 accounts takes away from the game as it was intended...Sony intended to make money...more accounts...more money.
4. I agree about how it takes away from the profession if you are wanting the profession to be as YOU described..but not everyone is the same. In this game Docs are like Teachers in the real world...people need you...but no one wants to pay you what you are worth and that was the case before Buffing was even in the game to the extent it is now. I rarely make money Curing, or healing people...they expect it for free.
Lastly, the droid doesn't have to die...See answer #1
and know that I do enjoy it. I actually play live Buffing doc probably close to 5-6 hours a day and let him run as a service to those hard workers that need buffing when I can't be there...but it is not on 24hrs a day.
You also keep suggesting that I don't enjoy doc...I don't see anywhere in the post that says that...just looking for a solution to something I knew could be worked out and eventually I did find my answer and actually by your comments it sounds like maybe you are the one that is tired of Doc and what it really is.
I8TheWorm
Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:59 pm
#19
Obata wrote:
Dr-J wrote:
How do most of you handle this? Does the friend with the power droid have to be near you and logged in? Can he be logged out of game and still have his droid helping you? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I believe that most people just have an alt character they pay for and log him in with droid near you to recharge, but that is not necessarily an option for me.
So any other solutions would be great...gotta figure out this droid thing.Most of us don't run AFK buffing macros at all. Nor are we inclined to tell people how to do it. You say that you can't play this game with being a millionaire. I very much disagree with that, but that's beside the point. The fact is, you can't avoid recharging your droid manually, unless you get 2 friends with power droids to befriend the droids to you and stay logged in. There are no other solutions.
The problem I have with your post is that I think there is room ingame for AFK buffers. They typically don't buff stats as high as an ATKer, so most folks will look for ATKers first, then if they can't track any down, they head to the AFKers. At least that's my perception on Valcyn. If you're an ATK buffer on Valcyn, you stay busy.
Dr-J
Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:31 pm
#20
I agree that you stay more busy ATK...but I don't think it is possible to Buff higher being there or not. It is all dependant on Buff, Mods, Food intake, Doc level, location(and/or having Droid out). So as long as you are full of the right food then i'm not sure what would be the difference...except the nice conversation.
Twitchie
Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:54 pm
#21
I should clarify my post a bit, I guess........yes, I'm a grumpy old man. 
I don't have a problem with all macros, just the repeating ones, and it's not limited to just docs. AFK grinding, loot campers, all of them.........the usual reasons are "it's too hard" "it's boring" "it's no fun doing such and such". So yeah, I get grumpy when somebody asks for a buff macro for their AFK doc. Why become doc, if you're just going to sit it down, fire off a macro, then go to bed? Money, usually.
I don't even particularly have a problem with a guild having a buffbot, as long as it's just that guild that uses it. Putting a buffbot in a med city, then advertising it on the forums or in SP spam is unfair to those of us who want to play doc, no matter how you look at it.
A buff macro is fine, I've been tempted to use a non-recursive one myself on occasion, so when I get a tip, I just hit F1, and off it goes for that person. Leaves my hands free for a few secs........but I haven't done it yet, just don't see the need. And no, I'm not a nOOb, I just choose not to use macros.
Yeah, I agree different players play differently (that was a mouthful), I mean, there's roleplaying, PvP, PvE, Jedi is a thing all to itself, and there's solo people out there, that don't play any of those. Using a macro to do your grind, get your XP, level up, repeat, isn't playing the game. It's not even a question of gameplay style, it's just plain lazy. Even before I was doc (how I managed that, I don't know.....8 months as doc, I have no intention of ever giving it up), I'd go to an ATK doc, even if the buffs were lower, rather than a buffbot. I just felt that player deserved my credits more than an AFK player.
As far as buffing ATK in starports......benefits besides random conversation? Even if you buff only a couple of times a week, you tend to see the same people alot, which pays off in a few ways. Say, you're in a guild, but you're not on at the same time as most of them, and decide at 3am you want to do the Corvette. I know several people I can ask, who'll be glad to help out. Same with merchants....it's a rare day now that I have to go hunting for something I want/need.....a /tell to any one of the merchants on my list saves me a ton of travel time, leaving more for gameplay. Bartering for buffs is also cool, on occasion. I've had people trade me some outrageous things for a buff (one guy actually traded me gong adhesive, back when it was going for a mil or better), just because they needed the buff more than the item in question. Plus, there's that nice feeling of satisfaction when you master a skill, knowing you did all the work yourself.
Like alot of people have said, use the macros if you want, but don't expect help from alot of people who feel it's an exploit. Not directed at any one person, mind you. Just to AFK grinders in general. Docs, though, irritate me. You knew it was going to be boring going into it, and there's alot of other things to do besides sit in SP and grind away. Offer your services as a "tank doc" for group hunts, go to Aurellia (if you can) and heal/rez/buff there for players starting the Jedi quest, whatever. SP buffing is a small part of what the Doc toon is, and something I only do a couple of times a week, usually when I'm getting low on buffs and need cash for more.
I8TheWorm
Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:36 am
#22
Dr-J wrote:
I agree that you stay more busy ATK...but I don't think it is possible to Buff higher being there or not. It is all dependant on Buff, Mods, Food intake, Doc level, location(and/or having Droid out). So as long as you are full of the right food then i'm not sure what would be the difference...except the nice conversation.
I should reiterate.. the chances of your buffs being higher are greater while atk because of optimal food timing and droid recharging.
I8TheWorm
Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:42 am
#23
Twitchie wrote:I should clarify my post a bit, I guess........yes, I'm a grumpy old man. ...... buffing is a small part of what the Doc toon is, and something I only do a couple of times a week, usually when I'm getting low on buffs and need cash for more.
I agree with all of the above. I can't imagine why people would pay the fees just to be afk all the time, unless they're selling credits on eBay, which is against the EULA.
In healing folks, I've made quite a few aquaintances outside of my guild. One is an armorsmith who I now gather resources for and I get free composite (just got crates of 5 this morning). I have a deal with a DE for free batteries/droids if I come tank for him while he checks harvestors in dangerous areas. Lots of deals you can make ingame to make things run smoother, but you'll only get them if you're ATK. That's not nearly as important to me as the conversations which keep the game from getting monotonous.
It won't always be possible, but I do plan to try to head to folks who /tell for buffs as much as possible, as a few docs have been kind enough to do that for me. It's all about the comraderie
Oh, I'm now 16k from 1-2-4-0 and can start buffing low charges anyway, woohoo! I'll probably go hang out in the Theed cantina where docs are rare on our server, and sell lower end buffs when asked. I don't plan on spamming for them though... I think the doc tag gets me enough tells as it is, even at novice.
Dr-J
Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:04 am
#24
I should reiterate.. the chances of your buffs being higher are greater while atk because of optimal food timing and droid recharging.
I disagree. If you know how to macro correctly I can be fed all the time and my droid is always charged.
Dr-J
Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:10 am
#25
I8TheWorm wrote:
Twitchie wrote:I should clarify my post a bit, I guess........yes, I'm a grumpy old man. ...... buffing is a small part of what the Doc toon is, and something I only do a couple of times a week, usually when I'm getting low on buffs and need cash for more.
I agree with all of the above. I can't imagine why people would pay the fees just to be afk all the time, unless they're selling credits on eBay, which is against the EULA.
In healing folks, I've made quite a few aquaintances outside of my guild. One is an armorsmith who I now gather resources for and I get free composite (just got crates of 5 this morning). I have a deal with a DE for free batteries/droids if I come tank for him while he checks harvestors in dangerous areas. Lots of deals you can make ingame to make things run smoother, but you'll only get them if you're ATK. That's not nearly as important to me as the conversations which keep the game from getting monotonous.
It won't always be possible, but I do plan to try to head to folks who /tell for buffs as much as possible, as a few docs have been kind enough to do that for me. It's all about the comraderie
Oh, I'm now 16k from 1-2-4-0 and can start buffing low charges anyway, woohoo! I'll probably go hang out in the Theed cantina where docs are rare on our server, and sell lower end buffs when asked. I don't plan on spamming for them though... I think the doc tag gets me enough tells as it is, even at novice.
You can say whatever you like, but please do not accuse me of breaking a law because you don't agree with me AFK'ing my character (providing a service to grinders and the like who may need some buffs when I am offline). I think I clearly stated earlier that I do this to make in-game money to afford things in the game..you're bartering is no different than my intentions. Your server may be a bunch of all beautiful, fun-loving brotherhood that trades and group hunts and pays the doc for cures and low-end buffs, but I just don't see that on most places i've been.
Sure I could show up in locations and help people and I do when asked nicely most often...but my meds cost me money in the game and in order to keep helping them I need to do more than just cover my costs most of the time. The thing is I don't disagree with your approach to Doctor...some people just see it differently.
I8TheWorm
Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:23 am
#26
Dr-J wrote:
I8TheWorm wrote:
Twitchie wrote:I should clarify my post a bit, I guess........yes, I'm a grumpy old man. ...... buffing is a small part of what the Doc toon is, and something I only do a couple of times a week, usually when I'm getting low on buffs and need cash for more.
I agree with all of the above. I can't imagine why people would pay the fees just to be afk all the time, unless they're selling credits on eBay, which is against the EULA.
In healing folks, I've made quite a few aquaintances outside of my guild. One is an armorsmith who I now gather resources for and I get free composite (just got crates of 5 this morning). I have a deal with a DE for free batteries/droids if I come tank for him while he checks harvestors in dangerous areas. Lots of deals you can make ingame to make things run smoother, but you'll only get them if you're ATK. That's not nearly as important to me as the conversations which keep the game from getting monotonous.
It won't always be possible, but I do plan to try to head to folks who /tell for buffs as much as possible, as a few docs have been kind enough to do that for me. It's all about the comraderie
Oh, I'm now 16k from 1-2-4-0 and can start buffing low charges anyway, woohoo! I'll probably go hang out in the Theed cantina where docs are rare on our server, and sell lower end buffs when asked. I don't plan on spamming for them though... I think the doc tag gets me enough tells as it is, even at novice.
You can say whatever you like, but please do not accuse me of breaking a law because you don't agree with me AFK'ing my character (providing a service to grinders and the like who may need some buffs when I am offline). I think I clearly stated earlier that I do this to make in-game money to afford things in the game..you're bartering is no different than my intentions. Your server may be a bunch of all beautiful, fun-loving brotherhood that trades and group hunts and pays the doc for cures and low-end buffs, but I just don't see that on most places i've been.
Sure I could show up in locations and help people and I do when asked nicely most often...but my meds cost me money in the game and in order to keep helping them I need to do more than just cover my costs most of the time. The thing is I don't disagree with your approach to Doctor...some people just see it differently.
that would make you the only doc I know of who doesn't make enough off of buffing ATK to cover costs ingame. You must be doing something wrong...