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Thread: Doc fees after CU?

Traigus
Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:58 pm
#14

I wanted an equal cut more then anything. Consumables as a healer are killer without some kinda payback. That's why I onl;y grouped w/ friends, back when my friends still played SWG, tyhey would give me cash to defray my costs healign them.


Now, with itemless healing, rezing etc. we can't demand any payment abouve equal cut.. because all of our skilsl are 0 cost cr.-wise.

I dunno how we will be able to work out costs on enhancers. I don't think it is possible with pickup groups. I wish it were.

There is gonne be some resentment by the powewr soloers that they need to group at all for the bigger content... not that I care what they think ;p, but it will be a general issue.

-T



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Ambiguous_Lee
Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:36 pm
#15

I think this is where the new loot rules come in. I would not be a group docin the new system for a bunch I've just met unless we are doing random or the bid loots. Wqually when hunting with friends we always set loot to default toone of the melees cos they r there anyway. Now beginning to understand why new group loot rules were brought in first to let people get used to it before they needed it.



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Dextrix
Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:01 pm
#16

Not only would I never pay a doc to group with me, but I'd never even consider doing anything with one who asked for payment. Please, I'm gonna pay everyone I hunt with to do there jobs? Consumable reimbersment is another story all together. Spend money to buff me in the field and I totaly expect to pay for it...other than that is GREED.





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MyT_Chicken
Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:07 pm
#17






Dextrix wrote:

Not only would I never pay a doc to group with me, but I'd never even consider doing anything with one who asked for payment. Please, I'm gonna pay everyone I hunt with to do there jobs? Consumable reimbersment is another story all together. Spend money to buff me in the field and I totaly expect to pay for it...other than that is GREED.






I feel the same way, I don't expect to get paid for playing Doctor while I'm in a group getting equal chances at the loot / payouts.


On the flip side though if I get asked to join a pick up group...were "Joe" is looking for say Pearls....And said mobs are only known to drop pearls....If I'm not getting reimersment for my time, I'm probably not gonna go. That may sound Greedy....but I'm not going to help someone else "get rich quick" just because he wants me to keep him alive.






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Dextrix
Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:19 pm
#18






MyT_Chicken wrote:





Dextrix wrote:

Not only would I never pay a doc to group with me, but I'd never even consider doing anything with one who asked for payment. Please, I'm gonna pay everyone I hunt with to do there jobs? Consumable reimbersment is another story all together. Spend money to buff me in the field and I totaly expect to pay for it...other than that is GREED.






I feel the same way, I don't expect to get paid for playing Doctor while I'm in a group getting equal chances at the loot / payouts.


On the flip side though if I get asked to join a pick up group...were "Joe" is looking for say Pearls....And said mobs are only known to drop pearls....If I'm not getting reimersment for my time, I'm probably not gonna go. That may sound Greedy....but I'm not going to help someone else "get rich quick" just because he wants me to keep him alive.








I dont think that sounds greedy at all, if your not getting a chance at x specific loot the group is after and they need and requested you, you should be compensated...But to hang out at a SP and spam "MD grouping for 250k an hour" would be greed imho.



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MyT_Chicken
Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:21 pm
#19

Ahh yeah...gotcha.




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Traigus
Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:09 pm
#20

The broken datapad and the commando + grenade crafting SCA are MINE!


-T



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SantosL
Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:35 pm
#21



Traigus wrote:
The broken datapad and the commando + grenade crafting SCA are MINE!


-T




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UmmonPrime
Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:08 am
#22

Ya, we are going to see some bad problems with loot deviding.

Anyone see that article about the guy in China killing some otherguy over a sword in a game?



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Traigus
Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:12 am
#23



UmmonPrime wrote:
Ya, we are going to see some bad problems with loot deviding.
Anyone see that article about the guy in China killing some other guy over a sword in a game?





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-T
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MyT_Chicken
Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:13 am
#24






Traigus wrote:
I wanted an equal cut more then anything. Consumables as a healer are killer without some kinda payback. That's why I onl;y grouped w/ friends, back when my friends still played SWG, tyhey would give me cash to defray my costs healign them.


Now, with itemless healing, rezing etc. we can't demand any payment abouve equal cut.. because all of our skilsl are 0 cost cr.-wise.

I dunno how we will be able to work out costs on enhancers. I don't think it is possible with pickup groups. I wish it were.

There is gonne be some resentment by the powewr soloers that they need to group at all for the bigger content... not that I care what they think ;p, but it will be a general issue.

-T






It's always been and issue though....but they can quit I don't want those griefers anyways. This game is a MULTIPLAYER game...not SINGLE PLAYER tolerating MULTIPLAYER game. Just because they pay to play...that doesn't justify the "this game is singleplayer" additude. Then will get use to the fact they need groups or they will leave. Either way, like you, I could care less what they do.


I still think we have an edge....consumables or not....if they need us they need to pay us. But it will work out...I mean anything above an equal share is dumb...even in the past...The combat people could have charged us a "Protection Fee"...but they never did...We just need to get out there and play. SWG was fun back in the day....it still is fun, but not nearly on the same level.





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SWG_Perkins
Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:20 am
#25



Traigus wrote:
I wanted an equal cut more then anything. Consumables as a healer are killer without some kinda payback. That's why I onl;y grouped w/ friends, back when my friends still played SWG, tyhey would give me cash to defray my costs healign them.


Now, with itemless healing, rezing etc. we can't demand any payment abouve equal cut.. because all of our skilsl are 0 cost cr.-wise.

I dunno how we will be able to work out costs on enhancers. I don't think it is possible with pickup groups. I wish it were.

There is gonne be some resentment by the powewr soloers that they need to group at all for the bigger content... not that I care what they think ;p, but it will be a general issue.

-T




The equal cut thing might get a bit tricky to define, since many (maybe most) of the mobs people are interested in fighting don't drop credits.

I won't expect to get rich being a group doc in the field, but the occasional tip might be nice in exchange for the intangibles beyond credits and loot, such as helping people get things like force-sensitive combat XP, or those warren badges that maybe won't be soloable anymore, and such. As someone told me once after I tried to refuse a tip for healing, "hey, docs gotta eat too".



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MyT_Chicken
Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:24 am
#26






SWG_Perkins wrote:





Traigus wrote:
I wanted an equal cut more then anything. Consumables as a healer are killer without some kinda payback. That's why I onl;y grouped w/ friends, back when my friends still played SWG, tyhey would give me cash to defray my costs healign them.


Now, with itemless healing, rezing etc. we can't demand any payment abouve equal cut.. because all of our skilsl are 0 cost cr.-wise.

I dunno how we will be able to work out costs on enhancers. I don't think it is possible with pickup groups. I wish it were.

There is gonne be some resentment by the powewr soloers that they need to group at all for the bigger content... not that I care what they think ;p, but it will be a general issue.

-T






The equal cut thing might get a bit tricky to define, since many (maybe most) of the mobs people are interested in fighting don't drop credits.

I won't expect to get rich being a group doc in the field, but the occasional tip might be nice in exchange for the intangibles beyond credits and loot, such as helping people get things like force-sensitive combat XP, or those warren badges that maybe won't be soloable anymore, and such. As someone told me once after I tried to refuse a tip for healing, "hey, docs gotta eat too".





All NPC's drop credits now...And if you are doing missions you get your cut that way. If your hunting some uber GDK or something, then I would put a "Up front" fee in the air...because you are taking time out of your life to help people in a pickup group....Odds are they will have no problem paying you what you ask, and if they do just move on.




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