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Thread: Is this legal

Thakkin
Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:49 pm
#14


Pai-Mei wrote:
wow thats hella lame they need to at least make it so you don't have to wait to long, or make it so a master doc can /stomicpump





Yes! I'm all for stomach pumps for docs. That way, I can keep my figure without having to be bulimic!
Spikedfrog
Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:57 am
#15

I HATE tumblers... I got Doc by healing and giving **edit**ty buffs to newbs who were grateful for an extra 300 to their stats...


But then i do think that it would be better for the person to be buffed to accept the buffs. Ive been ninja buffed myself and it is VERY annoying.


Im the same tho, now that im master doc i dont care as much, but when you are lowere down, there is nothing you can do... At least now you can over-buff...when you couldnt it could ruin a good few hours of planned hunting, without killing yourself which i always refused to do!
droid327
Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:24 am
#16

maybe you should have to /consent your doc to get buffed?



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Li3n0
Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:36 am
#17



Amuser wrote:
If he's doing it on purpose then sure, it's annoying, but then whatever happened to levelling doc/medic from actually putting your medic abilities to good use? I've lost count of the amount of times I've walked into a med centre to see people fighting over tumblers, while Joe Bloggs sitting on a bed with 500 health wounds gets ignored.




Amen.

Even though I am a doctor I find it despicable that medics skip the whole healing phase in order to grind to doctor - thinking that buffing is going to solve all their problems and make them oodles of money. They don't establish the links with upcoming rangers by healing in hunting parties (needed for the resources to make your own buffs, unless they fancy paying 150CPU for Avian), they don't learn how to work with a group (and then they get killed going on trips to DWB or Corvette because they only know how to heal tumblers with Stim B's - they don't know about poison, disease, fire blankets, state cures adnd the like) and they just piss other players off by ignoring them in the med centre. They stand around in the medical centre wasting endless stim Bs on tumblemonkeys who could surely make much more money an hour getting a buff and going hunting (whats the rate these days? 10k an hour? 20? Even as a decent brawler/marksman you can make more than that back running crappy missions on Coronet) and I have even see them complain about levelling taking too long - whilst ignoring patients sitting on the beds with genuine wounds. I used to send wounded people to the med centre to help out the novice medics and doctors, but realise that when they get there no one is willing to help them - so I now heal them myself as part of the buffing process (major wounds incur a small charge to cover my packs though )

Tumbling should be limited to combat - its silly and hardly used properly anyway (how many people actually use it in combat)...

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Amuser
Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:34 pm
#18


ShinmaRyche wrote:
LOL! I have a friend that does this on starsider. (His name will be kept a secret) Buffing quickness on tumbler macroers. I cant believe yuou guys are whining about NOT being able to exploit the system.
As for the general ninja buffs, it can be annoying, but you can always have them overbuffed by a master doc for 10k, so who cares?





The man has a point. Ultimately it's an exploit, the same way teaching someone a skill 20 times for app xp is an exploit.

This guy is perfectly within his rights to think he is doing everyone a favour, given that these are heal enhancements and last time I checked the word enhancements has entirely positive connotations. If he's doing it on purpose then sure, it's annoying, but then whatever happened to levelling doc/medic from actually putting your medic abilities to good use? I've lost count of the amount of times I've walked into a med centre to see people fighting over tumblers, while Joe Bloggs sitting on a bed with 500 health wounds gets ignored.



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Fleura_MD
Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:10 pm
#19

I think if someone buffs another person without permission it is considerd harassment and should be reported. Look at it like this...you can't stop a combat profession from grinding xp by doing missions so you shouldn't stop a medic or doc who is grinding by healing a tumbler. The safest way to grind with a tumbler is to go to your or the tumbler's house and heal there.


Here's my 2 cents

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Sunakk
Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:47 pm
#20






Li3n0 wrote:



Tumbling should be limited to combat - its silly and hardly used properly anyway (how many people actually use it in combat)...

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I agree 100%! Taking tumbling out of the game would be a quick, easy fix--and it would be a long stride towards bringing the doctor/medic professions back in the directionwhere they used to be.



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TheWanderersg
Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:50 am
#21

I figured out a sort of counter for this. Make the absaloute worst worst buff packs a you can do, and simply put them on, "re-applying" your buff. The enhancement and time won't be so high so you might be able to wait it off, or simply carry on with the low buffs....?




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Blue-Quick
Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:45 am
#22

I hate tumbling too.

But guess what, if there wasn't tumbling, there'd be the Warcry at a lair, or you could heal two people dueling, or you can simply go into a cantina and heal dancers, or you ninja buff everyone in sight, or you could borrow a CM and heal diseased people, or poisoned people.

The simple fact is, no one is going to take 2 months of healing group members in outings to make Master Doc (like I did...wasn't in any hurry).

So put up with tumblers. Heck, drop Doc, (to get a vendor), find a tumbler yourself to get doc back and appreciate them.

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AgreaAtodlie
Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:45 am
#23






Aumminer wrote:

I was in the med center getting ready to do one of the "pet tumbles" for those of you who do not know what it is: your tell your pet to do Trick 1 over and over very fast, It nakes your action drop very very fast and you can get 4440 of doc in 2 hours.


Well anyway, i was getting ready to do one of these tumbles when a character by the name of yourmoma comes in a "Ninja Buffs" me starting with sta, qck, str, then con.


If you have the secondaires then the tumble can not be done, I was mad at the time beacause I had gotten a dancers mind buffs, then drank 2 brandys and was unable to tumble.


I was just wondering if it was aginst the rules to go around and buff random people, this guy just pops up out of the bule in the med center and go around buffing everone there without ask first. His lame excuse was "last time i checked this was a med center" like the fact that I was in the med center gave him the right to buff me and others that did not want them for xp.





And you are coming to the board, why? Firstly, you are taking advantage of an aspect of the game and using that tool/system to your advantage and not as was intended. And yet you complain that another is doing the same? There is a word for that.


1. Tumbling and afk entertainers are the 2 main reasons for recursive macroes being removed from the game. Both were not intended, but both occur so regularly that some people feel it is ok or "legal". To answer your question,...Ninja buffing is not an exploit...but under certain circumstances can be construed as griefing, but not in this situation...the CSR will do nothing as you are exploiting a system, then complaining of a player stopping you in doing so....


2. And finally one poster put it the absolute best. Passing out heals and minor buffs to newer players in mos eisley is precisely what a baby doc should be doing. You should be healing wounds, going with groups and healing party members (of course this last one is largely impossible with the current buff system and solo groups), should try and heal people as they spawn in starports, or at the cantina giving heals to the dancers and musicians. Not grinding out doc in 2 hours...I can't wait till tumbling is GONE from the game.


Miravlix
Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:41 am
#24

The posters in this thead make no sense, why should Master Doc be the only profession in game that takes 3 months to master?

Almost everything else is hours and at most days to master.



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xDDOGx
Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:42 am
#25

u all should stop complaining , if u go do a combat prof and grind it in 5 or 6 hours its ok , if you go to a crafting prof and u master it in a few hour (little more then combat of course ) its ok , ALL is ok when u do it urself , but as soon as another person found finds a way to get xp on a fast way u start crying as baby's , as saying like it isn't fair cause he can do it in a few hours while it took me so long , well suck it up , i am a master doc/tkm , and allmost everytime i have let over action buffs i head to the med center , i take some brandy canape and stuff , throw myself an action buff and pull my razor cat out , and pet-tumble yes , i am not a doc who is going like i wannabe the only doc ingame , this is a MMrpg for crying out loud , the whole F***ing purpose of a game like this is to enjoy and HELP other peeps and find a way that you can survive , most of these whiners , shouold go back to there x-box or ps2

and play alone , i have never played any online game in wich peeps don't help eachother with advice and xp , and frankly i feel sorry for peeps who ninja-buff seeing as the have nothing better to do then to annoy other peeps plain and simple ,

as of this day i got a few CRS people asking me why i did it and my responds was i am HELPING people and they said ah ok cool

, i know CRS aint a DEF , but untill i get a warning i will do this

u can flame me all that u want cause i couldn't care less , only thing i would say is get a grip and start playing the game for fun and dont try to keep everything for urself



just my opinion , and yes i can say i have tons of fun playing swg , as i don't go griefing other peeps but help them instead , and when i sit in the SP buffing or outside i group with docs so we can chat a little while buffing , no hard times jus FUN
xDDOGx
Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:44 am
#26

oh just one more thing spelling isn't my best friend i know that so no need to remind me
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