Doctor Archive
Thread: resource requirments for new meds..for those thinking of doing BE crafting
Eskie
Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:07 am
#118
Darksfallen wrote:
(...)Before Avian with a 900+ OQ and PE and a 200 DR would be tons less than a Avian with 900+OQ/PE/DR we can use previously less than desirable resources and get the same effect.(...)
Yes. Essentially de-valueing our current stockpile of resources. Docs bought those resources because they offered a great benefit while crafting. If they hadnt had any use, they wouldnt have been valueable. But with their use going away, their value also goes away. Sad enough, if you ask me. Current crafting docs would have been better off not stockpiling the good resources, but stockpiling cash instead. Sad enough, if you ask me
I have yet to see any solid reason why this change is _neccessary_, because if there is not a very good reason behind doing this, one could say it is griefing players.
diepa
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:59 pm
#119
I have never looted a part for a metal recycler or seen one for sale on my servers trade forum. I thought the point of the recyclers was to be able to use short stacks. You should not have a schematic that uses smelted anything specifically.
Eskie
Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:07 pm
#120
Take a look at the items and loot forums, you might find some interesting info on where to loot some parts 
But yes, metal smelters shouldnt be required to craft items.
But yes, metal smelters shouldnt be required to craft items.
Darksfallen
Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:23 pm
#121
Eskie wrote:
Yes. Essentially de-valueing our current stockpile of resources. Docs bought those resources because they offered a great benefit while crafting. If they hadnt had any use, they wouldnt have been valueable. But with their use going away, their value also goes away. Sad enough, if you ask me. Current crafting docs would have been better off not stockpiling the good resources, but stockpiling cash instead. Sad enough, if you ask me
I would rather devalue the 10s of millions I have now than for it to continue to happen into the future presumably forever.
I have yet to see any solid reason why this change is _neccessary_, because if there is not a very good reason behind doing this, one could say it is griefing players.
LoL Because they have nothing betterto do that to piss off player and make them quit? Right...These are no longer Doctor meds, as such they are no longer resigned to requirements for items that no longer exist, they are more in line with what BEs have as requirements.
Eskie
Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:37 pm
#122
Still no valid reason for devalueing current doc resources, though
Darksfallen
Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:47 pm
#123
How can you say it's devaluing it? DR was duration, there is not more duration?!?! No duration, no DR nothing else is different. That makes no sense at all.
IvowoPawe
Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:41 pm
#124
I am not doing BE instead I will quit. I am a doc who worked very hard to get to Master Doc. I did the crafting. Hunted using TK and scouted. I even did some fs. Now, I am being told it is for nothing. Im sorry I love the crafting for doc. That is a doc thing to make good medicines. I use to love sitting in the medical hospital on coronet and heal people with packs that I made or give some newbie something he never had.
Arbit
Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:10 pm
#125
i was looking forward to the CU.. i'll be canceling my doctor now, and after i play with the new system i'll probly be putting my main account on hold for a few months while i go try other online games.
maybe the devs will realize how stupid their being by that time.
Eskie
Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:44 pm
#126
Darksfallen wrote:How can you say it's devaluing it? DR was duration, there is not more duration?!?! No duration, no DR nothing else is different. That makes no sense at all.
Right - I paid a lot for meat with high OQ, PE and DR. It is pretty hard to get meat that is great in all three stats. With DR not mattering anymore, an OQ 1000 / PE 1000 / DR 1000 meat will be as valueable as an OQ 1000 / PE 1000 / DR 0 meat. Three stats high meant more expensive than two stats high when I bought the meat. But me paying more for DR 1000 doesnt matter now anymore, because the meat got de-classed from three-high-stat to two-high-stat.
Simple example: I have some 900+/200+/900+ avian meat. And I have some 800+/900+ gases to go along with it. This combination would make low-powered long-duration PvE grinding buffs. Now its only worth as much as OQ and PE justify. So with 900/200 and 800, those resources are moved from my PvE-grade resources to my little-better-than-griding resources.
Thats how its being de-valued, and I think nerfing current crafting docs doesnt make sense, also.
Eskie
Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:02 pm
#127
VTmoon wrote:what is up with units requiring 7 sub components per, lol.
Dunno - Im still waiting for a dev to troll into the Doc or BE forums. Apparently AS and CMs currently get the dev attention, I hope its our turn soon, also. I dont know how they laid out their schedule internally, if they have Blixtev and SOE_Helios jumping around taking a few professions at a time or if we got assigned another dev that just hasnt shown up yet.
Lomier
Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:33 pm
#128
Among my 4 accounts I have a number of crafting professions mastered. Among them are Doctor and Bio Engineer. I have to say though that in light of the manyother aspects of the CU that I disapprove of this will be yet another reasonfor me to leave. I will wait till the "CU" goes final before I make my final decision but unless there are some major changes from what is currently being proposed,I will probably be done with SWG.
By the way, if anyone is interestedin developing their own MMORPG check out www.realmcrafter.com They have a product that looks very interesting! This may be my new hobby after SWG.
Message Edited by Lomier on 04-13-2005 06:44 PM
-Droideka-
Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:29 pm
#129
The only way you could make these requirements suck worse is if they added talusian wooly. Shellfish? Ok, if you add underwater harvestors and get rid of these damned buggy shellfish tools that wont stack resources. Milk? JUST SAY NO THERE...eggs hahahahahahaaaa.............what a joke
Katosan wrote:
This is like a train wreck.... I'm just staying to see how bad it can get....
K... let's break this down....
50 Reptilian - When was the last time you saw a good spawn of this on a critter that dropped more than 30 units?
100 Plumbum Iron - And it gets even better.
75 Talus Scaley Hide - Break out those Talusian missions!!! You can get really BIG ones!
75 Milk - Sqeak, Squirt, Sqeak, Squirt - At least we have pickets... but those will probably all be male after the CU
100 Colat Iron - At least I know where I'll be selling my worthless armorsmith metal!!!
100 Dylinium Intrusive Ore - OMG
50 Endorian Mollusk - Here shellfish shellfish shellfish
175 Kammris Iron - YAY....I am gathering all those AS metals together in ONE big pack!!!
50 Corellia Crustacean - Getting out my hip boots... let's go trolling
150 Mythra Copper - K now.... Archi metals were at least not touched yet..... this is getting close to the caboose.
28 Eleton Reactive Gas - weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
24 Tolium Reactive Gas - AND THUS THE COMPETITION FOR BOMB DROID GASSES BEGINS.
Message Edited by Katosan on 04-09-2005 04:53 AM
ajjordan
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:27 am
#130
Voritors give good drops of this I think.
Katosan wrote:
This is like a train wreck.... I'm just staying to see how bad it can get....
K... let's break this down....
50 Reptilian - When was the last time you saw a good spawn of this on a critter that dropped more than 30 units?
100 Plumbum Iron - And it gets even better.
75 Talus Scaley Hide - Break out those Talusian missions!!! You can get really BIG ones!
75 Milk - Sqeak, Squirt, Sqeak, Squirt - At least we have pickets... but those will probably all be male after the CU
100 Colat Iron - At least I know where I'll be selling my worthless armorsmith metal!!!
100 Dylinium Intrusive Ore - OMG
50 Endorian Mollusk - Here shellfish shellfish shellfish
175 Kammris Iron - YAY....I am gathering all those AS metals together in ONE big pack!!!
50 Corellia Crustacean - Getting out my hip boots... let's go trolling
150 Mythra Copper - K now.... Archi metals were at least not touched yet..... this is getting close to the caboose.
28 Eleton Reactive Gas - weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
24 Tolium Reactive Gas - AND THUS THE COMPETITION FOR BOMB DROID GASSES BEGINS.
Message Edited by Katosan on 04-09-2005 04:53 AM