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I buffed last night in Coronet for like 20 minutes or so kinda unintentionally.. I was waiting for a friend by the starport and was wearing my Master Doctor tag (I still can't figure out why I should have to turn it off just because purple wants me to charge 6k for my buffs). I began getting /tells for buffs which isn't unusual.. There were probably 2 or 3 other docs around me all buffing for between 5k and 8k.. I began replying to my /tells with my standard message "Price is 12k minus 2k for any stat below 1k.." I ended up buffing like 15 people during this time and only had a refund for 2 bad rolls.. Never had ONE complaint..

Now, my friend is also a master doctor who actually buffs better than I do but charges like 6k a buff because he is so rich he doesn't really need the cash.. He actually had people tell him that it was TOO CHEAP!! They insisted on paying him more so he ended up just telling them to tip what it was worth..

How you like them apples?

Why sell buffs for less... why not? I dont see them lining up for the 10k a set near me and making any money. Infact someone last night tried the 10K+ like 10m from me last night... my customers had to keep telling him to quit buffing them when my line spilled over close to him since hes too expensive, or wasnt as good.. I cant remember which reasonwas more popular but it was comical to me to see this. Must have been some scroge from this thread that was empowered by your guys "stories" and then went and found out the truth...

Rex again dont talk to me about economics... you can toot your horn all you want about"Oh people line up for my stuff..." well they might.. what planet? Lower prices do mean a bigger market share... example: Wal-Mart... cheesy example but true. Im also willing to bet they make ALOT more money than others in the same area of retail sales. We could do more examples if you'd like...

Are you blind Caliwyrm? Read my previous posts a few times to maybe let some knowledge soak in... I answered all your questions the best I could as long as I could read the way you typed them. I think its funny that because I oppose your oppinion that is popular with Docs... gee I wonder why... I have no life and am inconsistent. Id have to say you were pretty inconsistent since you never seem to even read/respong to my reply's. I can indeed see them making 300k in 3 hours not an hour like you wanted before... and so what's so important about what they can make? Maybe they arent a "PURE" Combat class that is getting buffs from you... so they should have to suffer then because they cant make huge ammounts of money in a few hours? Get off your throne and realise that probably fewer thana thirdof your clients are going to even make 50k in the duration of your buffs this is why you dont see tons of millionaires around....

Zeligtheliar, aka little sir echo.... Again.. from personal experience since there is no other in this game basically... I am yet to see someone that charges even 6k thats 2k more than me be able to setup shop near me for even10 mins without running away because they couldnt hack-it. I keep hearing these stories from Docs that charge an Arm & a Leg for buffs that they can beat out cheaper competitors easily for control of an area... all I can say to these stories is either they arent true (Most likely) or every other Doc on your server but you sucks... and I really doubt that.

Im getting real tired of having to cover the same points of an arguement because someone else brings it up again.. its old. So charge what you want its futile for me to have a battle of wits with unarmed combatants.

luckily on eclipse theres no 10k greedy docs like seemingly most of you are

going price is 6k for pretty much every doc ive ever asked for buffs or seen buffing

if you ask for more than 6k you better have 900 power 12k+duration packs or your just ripping the guy off

i spit at some beeps who use like 800 or less power packs and ask for 6k for a set, not worth it

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Celerity wrote:

luckily on eclipse theres no 10k greedy docs like seemingly most of you are

going price is 6k for pretty much every doc ive ever asked for buffs or seen buffing

if you ask for more than 6k you better have 900 power 12k+duration packs or your just ripping the guy off

i spit at some beeps who use like 800 or less power packs and ask for 6k for a set, not worth it

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Celerity wrote:

luckily on eclipse theres no 10k greedy docs like seemingly most of you are

going price is 6k for pretty much every doc ive ever asked for buffs or seen buffing

if you ask for more than 6k you better have 900 power 12k+duration packs or your just ripping the guy off

i spit at some beeps who use like 800 or less power packs and ask for 6k for a set, not worth it

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I do not and never will buy any resources from anyone. I run about 27 harvests, 1 hospital, and 4 storage houses (obviously notwith my own lotsmyself, but people offer lots so I take them and pay for them myself). I totally agree that our buffs are worth more then we are charging, but I refuse to charge more then 8k per set. The reason for this is because about 75% of my customerswill end up tipping me 10-15k. As far as I'm concerned that other 25% is not much of a lose, because I'm still getting paid.

I'm a MD/MBE so I CAN NOT hunt on my own. But I can harvest and I do it everyday, and I love to do it. Any group is more then happy to have a MD tag along on a hunting trip. I heal for free, but I don't usually do Wound Jobs, mainly because I don't like wasting good wound kits on cuts and scrapes. I love this game and I became a doctor, because I love people. I do think Doc's need to raise the price of buffs, but it wont work for me. Yes I have costs, propbably more so then any other doctor on this forum, because of the number of harvesters I have to keep track of. But for the most part I have so many buff requests from the same people that charge me more then my asking price of 7k that it doesn't matter to me. I very rarely have more then 10k in my pocket, and I don't have anything in the bank, but it doesn't matter to me. It doesn't matter, because those same people I buff daily usually bring me resources when I ask them to.

Being a doctor is very important to my character, and to myself, and I don't mind buffing people, and I don't mind missing a shuttle to buff a person. Because I just like to talk to people while I wait for the next one. I never take my MD tag off no matter where I go, and Unless I'm in a group or crafting I will fly where ever you are at and hook you up for a buff.

So in short yes I honestly think we docs need to raise the price of our buffs, because I honestly think we are getting ripped off for the amount of time and effort that goes into making a good buff. But me personally, I will stick to my 7k-8k asking price and just keep hoping people will ask me again.

Cheers

Egri

Purplebooks, how does your world work? You claim to be against price fixing/gouging yet flame anyone who doesn't charge what you charge.. ??? Hello, Mr Pot, this is the Kettle, you're black..

These are just some of Purplebook's nuggets of "wisdom":

"My BIGGEST complaint is the fact that I may charge a hell of a lot less and 99% of the time do better and more consistent buffs... this does not mean that another master Doc needs to come over and cuss me out in /tells because hes greedy. I may have voiced my opinion in here but I dont stand next to a money grubber and say it. I am not that mean sheesh...

I get told on a regular basis that I HAVE to charge X ammount for buffs because some group of greedy people said so.. its sillyand I wanted to make sure I got my point across that your customers dont want you for 10k a set. Communists..."

"Bottom line

If you dont like buffing for less than 10k dont... infact dont buff at all and do your part to reduce spam. For the rest of us don't feel like you can bring some hate down on me and mine cuz its cheaper. "

Also wrote: "So you think you have the best so you think you have the right to get together and fix prices... I make far more money in the long run at 4k a full set and out of 6 buffs 4 are over 3k and the others are over 2k usually... "

"I wish games had rules like real life with price fixing.. its such a pain to deal with."

"Doc's lower your prices.... don't scalp people... I may charge 4k but most pay me in the 6-9k range just cuz Im good and they think Im nice for doing what I do. "

"So like Ive been saying all along..Docs are just greedy! Don't pay for 10K buffs! One more thing I think we need to hit is the cost of med resources.. they are sad as well.. I dont think that people need to pay that much for Stims and such either. "

"Ive had many, many Docs yell and cuss me out for charging low prices. Telling me about all this BS about an agreed upon price by all master Docs. Im tired of hearing it ingame and would rather discuss it here"

"Actually price gouging is the case... yes they will continue to get business , but not near as many as me if they charge more. "

"Gouging is more a term usedto describe the business practice of over pricing an item/service because you have a shortage or firm control of the supply market. I think that over-pricing iswhat should be used to describe most Docs. Im just happy that whay fewDocs I have been able to befriend and talk with about this matter have decided to be a good Doc and buff for a reasonable ammount not some silly 20k crap"

"Like Ive been saying.. you wanna charge a crap load for buffs? Go right on ahead I cant and wont stop you.. I wont even try to stop you" <-- my favorite--he won't stop anyone, just flame them and be condescending to them.. /boggle

"See one complaint with public forums is there are alot of people that just cant leave well enough alone.. they really dont have anything good to say.. but just have this urge to get in a hit when they think someone is down..."

"Why charge a grip for a set of buffs when you can charge less.. make more in the long run and make people happy while doing it? Whats not to like there? Get what you want... money.. give customers what they want.. good service. I did say give it away free... and if charging less than 10k is "Practically give them away" then cut your losses is all Im mentioning."

You contradict yourself SO many times its not even funny. You don't care what other doctor's buff, yet call us 'rip offs,' 'price gougers' and the like. You still have yet to answer Caliwyrm: If what other doctors charge means to little to you, why do you feel so strongly about it? You don't care, yet you flame anyone and everyone at every little turn?

First off Meenah, very good job find copy and paste

I did answer Caliwyrm several times before and I will again. Let me put this simple... before I posted in here I have had numerous /tells from other master Docs complaining about my low prices and blowing up all over me. So I finally decided to come to the communist party and try to have a discussion with people that are so busy pulling each others stuff they arent really paying attention to what is being said.

Also Im not trying to stop you.. I know that I cant do that. Im merely trying to have a meaningful discussion and maybe shed some light for a few of ya... Im trolling if I disagree with the majority.. flaming if I get scarcastic or single someone out... I know that Im not gonna have much effect to a crowd that is so indoctrinated with this silly 10k+ buffs and such.

I almost forgot...

wujiwak, what do you mean we dont have buying power? Have you never had the skill to talk someone to selling you something cheaper for the most units they sold you.. a volume discount... there are many many other buying power examples you could use but why I think this one proves it just fine.

I'd say there is plenty of buying power available in game to us... including the example you used..

well there is no further point trying to explian the Laws of Microeconomics to somone who is unwilling to listen

the sad things is in a Game Economy there is no true penalty for the sloppy and wreckless practices he does since income can be eaily subsidized through missions and stim sells, however if the Game Economy was more like real life, he would be standing in a welfare line collecting a government check that the rest of us provided him through our high taxes based off our high income from UNDERSTANDING how Microeconomics works.

so, I will no longer feed the troll (Ipretty much believehe is not a Doc, otherwise he would understand the plight of the proffesion)

I've only been making buffs for a few weeks and I'm not a powergamer so that's maybe 15 hours of game play. Lacking all the resources to make buffs with all adv components, my buffs are average. Therefore, I charge 5k for a full set. 99% of the time, My buffs average in the 1800range. When asked for a buff I send a /tell advising the person of the average stats for these buffs.Very few decline the buffs and most often they tipped me beyond the 5k I asked for.

Tonight, I was in bombarded with tells for buffs...no time to tell anyone how much or that I thought buffs were average. After about 10 buffs, I'd been tipped close to 100k and I had a blast. It was fun sitting in the med center, surrounded by every type of creature on the galaxy waiting nicely for their turn. I haven't treated being a doctor as a business, I do this for fun and yetI averaged 10k a bufffor medsthat clearly are not the strongest on the planet. Morale of my story.....unless you have some uber business plan to have more credits than anyone else....it's a game...have fun.

PurpleTroll:

I'll type slowly so maybe you can understand it better.

A few posts ago you pointed out this is a game, not a cure for cancer. I agree. I have one question and one question ONLY for you: If this is a game, why do you care so much about how many imaginary credits I ask for my imaginary service? You have said you don't care about us and we have said we don't care about you, yet you call us 'price gougers' and insist we're ripping people off of imaginary credits in an imaginary game.

Fine, YOU consider your time in-game to be worth less than I do. I'll live with it, I don't keep flaming everyone else around here and try to be demeaning like you have done time and time again in this thread. You keep spewing the same stuff over and over again and are only touching on the most BASIC of arguments in this thread while completely avoiding points you are unwilling or uncapable of refuting.

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purplebooks wrote:

example: Wal-Mart... cheesy example but true. Im also willing to bet they make ALOT more money than others in the same area of retail sales. We could do more examples if you'd like...

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