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Thread: Buffbots have started up again
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Mark603
Sat May 21, 2005 10:59 am
#1
I arrive in Theed today on Bria, and what do I see? A former Entertainer buffbot now a Master Doc buffbot, spamming her "heal and buff for 5K " macro over and over again.Even with the lousy buffs we now have, one of the thingsI did NOT miss was theDoc buffbots of the Pre-CU game.Why do some people persist with finding ways to avoid actual play, but prefer to simply set up macros and do nothing???
QuiGonWindu
Sat May 21, 2005 5:45 pm
#2
Mark603 wrote:
Why do some people persist with finding ways to avoid actual play, but prefer to simply set up macros and do nothing???
Because SOE allows them to....
ex:
Publish 17(on test center):
Profession: Dancers, Entertainers, Musicians
- Added the ability to set a /covercharge for performers.
- Performers can now set themselves to have a cover charge. Use the command /covercharge . You can reset it by /covercharge 0 or null)
- Audience members who "watch" or "listen" to the performer will get a pop up box asking if they wish to pay the cover charge.
- Once the performance is complete, the performer will receive the cover charge funds when the audience member stops listening/watching.
- More than one audience member at a time may pay the cover charge and view the performance.
ScreamUK
Sat May 21, 2005 8:27 pm
#3
Some people have realthings to worry about.
Youare a very, very sad person.
But seeing how the game is going lately, I have no doubt the 'Shirts' will take on board your comments and put it to the top of the list of priorities.
Scream
*Still shaking head* sad man
Eskie
Sun May 22, 2005 1:22 am
#4
QuiGonWindu wrote:
Mark603 wrote:Why do some people persist with finding ways to avoid actual play, but prefer to simply set up macros and do nothing???
Because SOE allows them to....
ex:
Publish 17(on test center):
Profession: Dancers, Entertainers, Musicians
- Added the ability to set a /covercharge for performers.
- Performers can now set themselves to have a cover charge. Use the command /covercharge . You can reset it by /covercharge 0 or null)
- Audience members who "watch" or "listen" to the performer will get a pop up box asking if they wish to pay the cover charge.
- Once the performance is complete, the performer will receive the cover charge funds when the audience member stops listening/watching.
- More than one audience member at a time may pay the cover charge and view the performance.
First of all, they can still do it AFK because the devs did not take out recursive macros. So yes, they do it because they can.
Concerning the Pub 17 /covercharge: That actually is something that is needed by the entertainer community. Currently, they cannot effectively prevent anyone from listening or watching them and not pay for their service. Every other profession can choose to benefit others or not (docs can buff _after_ getting the money, TKAs can /taunt and tank for others or just stand there, crafters sell their products etc.). As it is currently, an Entertainer cannot provide service to one person while denying others that service at the same time. Ok, they could use their performance denial lists, but lets face it, it is not feasible to put on the 50 names in a crowded cantina and then take them off one-by-one after getting paid.
I-O-VIE
Sun May 22, 2005 7:36 am
#5
p-leasse......
hear a lot of combat proffessions saying "you're not friendy " if i won't be bothered to heal or buff not all mind you but some, and that just isn't fair.we "earned our proffession, as well as you, we need suplies as well as you we're no more bots then those of you standing afk in the starposrts shouting about what you have to sell, want to buy, promoting you giuld, lfg, or spaming I NEED A HEAL, ANY DOCS? CAN I GET A BUFF? but god forbit i should ask for any "any" compadation.
Mark603 wrote:
I arrive in Theed today on Bria, and what do I see? A former Entertainer buffbot now a Master Doc buffbot, spamming her "heal and buff for 5K " macro over and over again.Even with the lousy buffs we now have, one of the thingsI did NOT miss was theDoc buffbots of the Pre-CU game.Why do some people persist with finding ways to avoid actual play, but prefer to simply set up macros and do nothing???
here will allways be bots, powergamers, and rude little children, exploiters, and hacks. that is just the human nature. but those of us that are none of them should be able to work together to make this the "live" galaxy it was before i've allways been fair and at the keyboard (every one on chimaeria who knows me knows this) and i'm not the only one. i will help when i can ,,,but ... if you "contact me" to do "you" a service, i don't think it's unreasonable for me to ask a price. at wich point the choice is your. but plesase don't try to make or expect me to feel quity this is my "profession" i didn't choose comat madic for a reason
of course this isn't my only proffesion but we all have our own game to play, i would no more ask a dancer to drop what he/she was doing to imspire me then i would ask and armoursmith or weaponsmith to hurry up and make me something, much less expect it for free! does the buff or heal cost me anything? yes my time and though it's not that big of a difference i still buy foods and use my droid and clothes.am i asking you to compansate me for what was lost in conversion? no i was screwed by ose not you. does that mean i'm intitled to "nothing" not imo. does that mean you souldn't try to find a free heal? that';s your choise (i would, but not for long) bottom line is we all have choices to make, you do what you think is right and i'll do what i think is right. and if you want to be mean to me because you're not getting what you want for free i know how to /addignore and if some one spam is bothering you ...do the same =)
d4mit Jim, i'm a doctor not a combat medic!
MyT_Chicken
Sun May 22, 2005 11:00 am
#6
Is covercharge needed? Yes.....but abused it will be by all the players that do not actually play the game. Bad days ahead when people have to pay AFKers for a "service". Very bad indeed.
Eskie wrote:
QuiGonWindu wrote:
Mark603 wrote:
Why do some people persist with finding ways to avoid actual play, but prefer to simply set up macros and do nothing???
Because SOE allows them to....
ex:
Publish 17(on test center):
Profession: Dancers, Entertainers, Musicians
- Added the ability to set a /covercharge for performers.
- Performers can now set themselves to have a cover charge. Use the command /covercharge . You can reset it by /covercharge 0 or null)
- Audience members who "watch" or "listen" to the performer will get a pop up box asking if they wish to pay the cover charge.
- Once the performance is complete, the performer will receive the cover charge funds when the audience member stops listening/watching.
- More than one audience member at a time may pay the cover charge and view the performance.
First of all, they can still do it AFK because the devs did not take out recursive macros. So yes, they do it because they can.
Concerning the Pub 17 /covercharge: That actually is something that is needed by the entertainer community. Currently, they cannot effectively prevent anyone from listening or watching them and not pay for their service. Every other profession can choose to benefit others or not (docs can buff _after_ getting the money, TKAs can /taunt and tank for others or just stand there, crafters sell their products etc.). As it is currently, an Entertainer cannot provide service to one person while denying others that service at the same time. Ok, they could use their performance denial lists, but lets face it, it is not feasible to put on the 50 names in a crowded cantina and then take them off one-by-one after getting paid.
QuiGonWindu
Sun May 22, 2005 11:38 am
#7
MyT_Chicken wrote:
Is covercharge needed? Yes.....but abused it will be by all the players that do not actually play the game. Bad days ahead when people have to pay AFKers for a "service". Very bad indeed.
/agreed
...
My point was that the Devs (intentionally or not) *continue* to put in facilities to play the game AFK. What we are going to see with Pub 17 is a move from AFK Doc buffbots to AFK Entertainer buffbots as the FotM for making credits 24x7 AFK.
So regardless of where you stand on the pro/anti buffbot issue, until the Devs remove the ability (or the need, for that matter) for AFK gameplay there will always be ppl playing that way.
MyT_Chicken
Sun May 22, 2005 1:07 pm
#8
QuiGonWindu wrote:
MyT_Chicken wrote:
Is covercharge needed? Yes.....but abused it will be by all the players that do not actually play the game. Bad days ahead when people have to pay AFKers for a "service". Very bad indeed.
/agreed
...
My point was that the Devs (intentionally or not) *continue* to put in facilities to play the game AFK. What we are going to see with Pub 17 is a move from AFK Doc buffbots to AFK Entertainer buffbots as the FotM for making credits 24x7 AFK.
So regardless of where you stand on the pro/anti buffbot issue, until the Devs remove the ability (or the need, for that matter) for AFK gameplay there will always be ppl playing that way.
Yea, and what is strange is the Devs really want to get rid of the AFK-ness of the game....which doesn't make sense to me because of the entertainer changes coming up...Especially because they know that is the #1 AFK played profession.
PowerHammer
Sun May 22, 2005 1:08 pm
#9
QuiGonWindu wrote:
Mark603 wrote:
Why do some people persist with finding ways to avoid actual play, but prefer to simply set up macros and do nothing???
Because SOE allows them to....
ex:
Publish 17(on test center):
Profession: Dancers, Entertainers, Musicians
- Added the ability to set a /covercharge for performers.
- Performers can now set themselves to have a cover charge. Use the command /covercharge . You can reset it by /covercharge 0 or null)
- Audience members who "watch" or "listen" to the performer will get a pop up box asking if they wish to pay the cover charge.
- Once the performance is complete, the performer will receive the cover charge funds when the audience member stops listening/watching.
- More than one audience member at a time may pay the cover charge and view the performance.
i actually suggested something like this. Except is was credits per second. And the range was 0-5. and there was an ability to give someone free service.
captenjonny
Sun May 22, 2005 1:46 pm
#10
Mark603 wrote:
I arrive in Theed today on Bria, and what do I see? A former Entertainer buffbot now a Master Doc buffbot, spamming her "heal and buff for 5K " macro over and over again.Even with the lousy buffs we now have, one of the thingsI did NOT miss was theDoc buffbots of the Pre-CU game.Why do some people persist with finding ways to avoid actual play, but prefer to simply set up macros and do nothing???
What? The doctor nerf wasn't enough for you?
captenjonny
Sun May 22, 2005 1:47 pm
#11
Publish 17(on test center):
Profession: Dancers, Entertainers, Musicians
- Added the ability to set a /covercharge for performers.
- Performers can now set themselves to have a cover charge. Use the command /covercharge . You can reset it by /covercharge 0 or null)
- Audience members who "watch" or "listen" to the performer will get a pop up box asking if they wish to pay the cover charge.
- Once the performance is complete, the performer will receive the cover charge funds when the audience member stops listening/watching.
- More than one audience member at a time may pay the cover charge and view the performance.
...and docs were nerfed from doing the same thing with buffs?????????
Honest to Pete I don't get it.
Mark603
Sun May 22, 2005 2:02 pm
#12
for the record, I am a master doc. I just liked the fact that, even though i hate the new buffs, when we DID buff people, we did it live, with some interaction. I'venever liked any form of AFK xp grinding/spamming, ( be it entertainers, docs, or spambots selling things ) and am proud to have never done it myself when I mastered TKM pre-cu. One of the things SOE promised us with the "CU" was a need for more live interaction with the rest of the SWG community we're in, and it was one of the few parts of the CU I was looking forward to. Im my mind, afk grinders are no better than ebay Jedi. These people didn't do the work to master their skills, they let a macro do it for them, and frankly, that's not right.
captenjonny wrote:
Mark603 wrote:
I arrive in Theed today on Bria, and what do I see? A former Entertainer buffbot now a Master Doc buffbot, spamming her "heal and buff for 5K " macro over and over again.Even with the lousy buffs we now have, one of the thingsI did NOT miss was theDoc buffbots of the Pre-CU game.Why do some people persist with finding ways to avoid actual play, but prefer to simply set up macros and do nothing???
What? The doctor nerf wasn't enough for you?
Nuttynoah
Mon May 23, 2005 1:06 am
#13
Mark603 wrote:
I arrive in Theed today on Bria, and what do I see? A former Entertainer buffbot now a Master Doc buffbot, spamming her "heal and buff for 5K " macro over and over again.Even with the lousy buffs we now have, one of the thingsI did NOT miss was theDoc buffbots of the Pre-CU game.Why do some people persist with finding ways to avoid actual play, but prefer to simply set up macros and do nothing???
player advertise (spam) their goods for sale or let others known thier healing or buffing, and other professions do the same, its how we make money and/or help others, if you find it annoying then move away about 50 meters, if you have a reason for being thier then use ignore i do, so it takes some time to enter them in, but most of the time its usely the samename (AFK) player every time. 
i do agree sometimes the spamming can fill the screen and may even help towards lag, but untill another way round it is found by the dev's then we will have to put up with it, as untill then its a part of the game like it or not. 
NO CAPTAIN, I SEE NO SHIPS JUST HARDSHIPS
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