Doctor Archive

I apologize for not following your template Marrow, but mine are pretty general...I hope this is okay

M.D without M.Medic

Gathered from PvE only

-Stim Heal Timer-
There's a significant timer between stim heals...I am not sure how efficient a MD will serve as a healer if the timer for stims were to kept this long...even Bluefrog stim D was by far more reliable and effective than our magic-like healing abilities...with that said, I think Advanced Bacta Jab could use an improvement ...though I much rather see the timer between stim heals decreased...I prefer using meds over magical heals ...And IMO, this is an important issue for our profession...I don't feel like much of a doc anymore with so little in-combat meds to actually use (I miss poison/disease curepacks and state stims)

-In-combat Buff??-
I was able to apply all the buffs/enhancers while in combat...working as intended??

-Combat and Heal/Cure Synch-
Designated auto-attack has not kicked in for me in CU after I used heal/cure abilities or a stim...So far, I had to manually engage in combat again...working as intended???

-Bacta Infusion Issue-
I was not able to determine the effectiveness of this ability in combat...but I can say that I wouldn't use up a queue to activate this abitliy as it stands now...benefit of over-time heal is too little to use up a queue in combat...I'd rather use that queue for another attack or alternative healing abilities we have...over-time heal needs some boost, IMHO

I made my comments on enhancers elsewhere.

As for skills, everything I tried seemed to work. Ran through the complete list of buffs and heals - as a MDoc/MCM, my heals were significantly higher than yours, probably due to my +200 to healing efficiency. I didn't notice any timer problems - hopping between heal skills, I could kick one out every six seconds or so. (Doing the same one twice in a row involved a cooldown period of around 15 seconds.)

For the buffs, duration felt kind of low, and effect seemed kind of marginal. It's probably just that I'm used to the "Buff up, then go out" mentality, but 40m for the main health buff ran out by the time I got to where I was going and got a rhythm set up. It didn't occur to me to try rebuffing in the middle, either, and it seems like that might work - honestly, though, I think the regen part is probably more useful than the actual health increase, but I'm not sure *how* useful 10% really is.

Bacta Infusion should *never* be the first heal you reach for when someone is running low on health. On the other hand, it's a wonderful countereffect to poison/fire/bleeding when you don't have time to remember where you stuck the icons or what the slash command is for antidote/dousing/bandaging. Mine ticked for around 170ish, and though I didn't notice the exact frequency, I'd guess it was around 8-10 seconds and lasted around a minute and change. I'd guess MDoc alone would probably tick for around 100, and that would still make it useful.

Honestly, I was kind of impressed that things worked as well as they did. I'm still disappointed in the overall power of healing and the plodding pace of combat, and the buffs were pretty marginalized. I won't be dropping MDoc/MCM just yet, but I may not be keeping it in the long term either.

MC

Some things I noted when playing today (050417)

I tested a Doc / CM these comments are common for both proffessions.

• Healing skills don't automatically use the corresponding enhancers. I assume it should, in a way similar to the way stims work in live. Ifit's intended for the medic to directly use enhancers when healing some kind of indication has to be placedon the itemwhen it's inthe quick barfor cooldownalso easier distinction between ehancers are needed.
  
• Are improved / advanced healing skills just cosmetic? It doesn't seem to make any difference what version of the skill you use. Also healing capabilities don't seem to get better with level, only when using enhancers.
  
• When you fail to heal (by mistakenly healing an enemy or something like that) the cooldown of the healing ability sets in so you are unable to heal the correct target.


• When using a healing ability your auto attack skill sets in.


• The effectiveness on all enhancers, from thefrog,are 0.0 that seems very strange? Should it be that way?

Added:

• After testing with enhancers it seems to me that all healing (both doc and cm) skills heal an equal amount. All heals were random between 580 - 600.

Message Edited by TheTemplar on 04-17-2005 10:49 PM

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Marrow1 wrote:

Everyone,

We need to start documenting our new skills in the CU. I have been holding off on this request until the bluefrogs grand you the training for free. Now that we do it is time to ge to work.

The goals are:

1. Find and bugs

2. Find any balance issues

3. Document for everyone what our prof can do.

Here is a quick template that will make gathering the data easier.

Healer's Skill Level:

Skill Used:

Enhancer Used (name and stats):

Result:

Comments:

Example:

Healer's Skill Level: M. Doc

Skill Used: Adv. Becta Jab

Enhancer Used (name and stats): None

Result:275-340 Health damage heal

Comments: Rather low for the most powerful heal. May be bugged.

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Master Doctor here.

I have not been able to creat anything higher then a 10% buff on the health. I crafted up what seemd to be pretty descent nutriant enhance packs and still got the same 10%

Where it really helps to be a doctor was the better heals then if not one. I tried an MBH Mcarb template with medic 4/0/4/0 and i would get incapped quite a bit

Changed to a Master Doc and MBH and was able to survive a lot more. Same with MD and Mcarbine.

Doc will not be to usful other then in a group so he can rebuff regular on the 40 minute timer I was getting. I havn't found out how to get any longer duration then that.

The extra healing commands over bacta shot do not seem to be of any use since improved bacta shot seems to heal more then any of the others.

Adrenile boost was good for me. What I gave up in combat speed to do a doc/combat templateit helped get me back up to speed.

heres a few i just tested out

Healer's Skill Level: M. Doc/Mmedic/MCM

Skill Used: Adv. Becta Jab

Enhancer Used (name and stats): None

Result: 250-350 Health damage heal

Comments: 6 sec timer, seems a very low heal

Skill Used: Adv. Becta Spray

Enhancer Used (name and stats): None

Result: 500-600 Health damage areaheal

Comments: 15m range from doc, 15 second timer, could be usefull, but seems a little low for its timer

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MataHairy wrote:

Can someone check how medical level effects the heal strength?

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well i had been meaning to give this a bit of a test, so here are some heal values for different levels, i stoped at a few box combos that have the healing efficency mod and grant new heals, these numbers are far from exact, only used 5-10 heals a set to get an average min and max. Started with some medic, went up to master doc, would have went into CM for the extra heal efficency but the server just shut down anyway these should give you a rough idea.

The list below is in order of template, ill colour code the specific heals to make it a little easier to read, im not going to attempt a table on these boards lol

bacta shot

bacta toss

bacta spray

bacta jab

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Ananais2 wrote:

(Lots of useful figures)

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I have been getting the same results as you on these heals, Ananais2 - which show a nice progression of power as healing efficiency goes up... but even at Master Doc/Master Medic/Master CM our heals are still rubbish.

Max heal of 700 on an elite combat prof - great... less than a quarter of their total health bar. And, if fighting mobs a couple of levels higher than you are, that 700 max heal is barely enough to heal one hit.

Heals are now of vastly diminished usefulness.

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AlariFairlyn wrote:

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Ananais2 wrote:

(Lots of useful figures)

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I have been getting the same results as you on these heals, Ananais2 - which show a nice progression of power as healing efficiency goes up... but even at Master Doc/Master Medic/Master CM our heals are still rubbish.

Max heal of 700 on an elite combat prof - great... less than a quarter of their total health bar. And, if fighting mobs a couple of levels higher than you are, that 700 max heal is barely enough to heal one hit.

Heals are now of vastly diminished usefulness.

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yep i would agree, i dont think iv broke 800 yet with a doc/cm/medic, even alternateing heals it dosent seem enough to keep someone alive in a serious fight, not to mention jab is pretty much a joke, and with spray healing so little it wont help if you actually do need to heal a whole group. i may beable to keep someone alive with CM aswell as doc however, but i doubt for long, pretty much would have to be healing every single hit they took to keep up, and in any serious fight im pretty sure i couldent keep it up long.

imo they are all pretty underpowered right now.

Message Edited by Ananais2 on 04-19-2005 02:17 AM