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Thread: Charging for Rez Yes or No?
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KamaKuro
Thu May 27, 2004 1:07 pm
#1
The reason I would charge for a rez is exactly the reason you stated.. Resource requirements are not that big of a deal for a rez pack.
What IS a big deal is the 'risk' of finding an individual and rezzing them in the midst of danger.
So yes, however the particulars should be taken care of before you ever even got inside. My conversations usually go like this:
Them: Hey, get me a rez
Me: Too dangerous.. make it worth my while
Them: OK, how about xxx
Me: Sure.. /consent me now, then bank tip me.. As soon as I see both I'll head in for you
Anyway.. I rarely get these requests since I usually have my tag off, but that would be how I would do it I think..
Nexxus82
Thu May 27, 2004 1:15 pm
#2
Personally I see nothing wrong with wanting money. It seems to me that every one thinks that docs and medics are here just to heal them. A lot think that well your a doc go buff people for a few hours and you are a millionaire. A lot of the people get there free rezes from docs that are lvling. I am done lvling you want me to do somthin give me a reason to help you or else you can clone for all I care. That rule differs for guildies and friends but for the most part you either pay or you clone. I mean all I ask is 1500 for a rez. How much do they loose if they clone. They loose 1% on insured items 5% on uninsured plus they have to pay to reinsure and then come all the way back to where they were. Its not too much to ask at all.
Songe
Thu May 27, 2004 1:22 pm
#3
I never charge, but again I won't bother looking for someone's corpse on the other side of the place. I'm not going to die trying to find a corpse.
Marrow1
Thu May 27, 2004 1:47 pm
#4
OK, I will take the other side.
You mentioned resouce cost, so lets take a look.
16 org 2 cpu = 32 cr
16 inorg 2 cpu = 32 cr
3 LS 2 cpu = 72 cr
1 BEC2 cpu =72 cr
total = 208 cr using junk resouces your will get about 20 rez's per pack so thats a cost of about 10 cr per rez.
Now, come on, please don't use the "I have resouce costs" excuse.
It does not make a big difference in the rez kit what type of resouces you use to make the kit out of. Sure, you may loose a little wound healing and a few charges but thats about it. So make it out of scrap stuff. If your making stims your bound to have some left over ALS, ABEC's so just use the left overs.
Sure, it is to the dead guys advantage to have you rez them. But do you really want to take that advantage? Do you think if you were in the bunker and under fire he would just stand there and say "my weapon and armor cost me cr" and make you tip him to help you? Is that really how you want to play this game?
I am not saying everytime someone wants a rez you have to stop what your doing to rez them. I is perfectly fine to just say "no" for what ever reason you want.
However, if your standing next to a dead guy who is asking for help just give it to him if for no other reason than to be a nice guy. The cost to you is so so small and the possible reward of making a new friend will be worth more than any tip you will ever get.
Greenbulb
Thu May 27, 2004 1:54 pm
#5
I whould not mind chargeing to rez,i bought rez packs for 22k for 1 pack i had like 20 of them and i am down to 5 and got no money out of it,so basicly i wasted money right? same deal with wound packs and dizzy and fire packs(ect),they DO take resorces same asbuff packs,sept we can't really charge for regular healing that people are used to getting for free, because we charge them for free is because they moan and groan about us makeing too much off buffs.... soooo because a few of us worked pretty DAMN hard on buffing people witch is NOT easy and because someone /tells us fora wound heal in the middle of buffin peeps,whould you waste that time healing him for free? oh right we already put up with that... But hey i agree with ya on chargeing for a rez in the wild,them guys was PVE jerks
Bloodburn
Thu May 27, 2004 2:24 pm
#7
I always charge 1k for a rez, why? well either that or you can go clone yourself.
And to avoid run away rezzies. (those that say they will pay, I rez them, and they run off) I check to see if the dead person is in a group, if they are I tell them to have a group member send over the money first, then consent me. They can pay that person back after they get rezzed. This way there is no risk for me at all.
If they arnt in a group, I tell them to /tell a friend or someone in the area.
No sweat off my shoulder if I dont rezz them. If they want me to rezz them, they need to get it done by following my rules.
And to avoid run away rezzies. (those that say they will pay, I rez them, and they run off) I check to see if the dead person is in a group, if they are I tell them to have a group member send over the money first, then consent me. They can pay that person back after they get rezzed. This way there is no risk for me at all.
If they arnt in a group, I tell them to /tell a friend or someone in the area.
No sweat off my shoulder if I dont rezz them. If they want me to rezz them, they need to get it done by following my rules.
WarFerret
Thu May 27, 2004 2:50 pm
#8
If I'm already there, I'll res them without thinking twice, the resource costs are negligible, if you want me to travel and kill stuff to come res you however, then it's going to cost you.
Fayfe
Thu May 27, 2004 4:18 pm
#9
If I can see their corpse from where I am standing I will rez anyone, but like the above poster if it requires me to search for you or type in a waypoint you better be offering more than thanks at the end of it 
Life is too short tbh 
Aroma
Thu May 27, 2004 4:23 pm
#10
I'm not a doc, however I think it is reasonable to think you will get tipped if you travel to rez. cure, dissease/ poison, etc. However it should be a tip, not a demand. Its just like the dancers who insist on tips, give me a break you might get stiffed now and then, but i tip even for stim and wound healing. Sure it might not be much but if you give me 3 or 4 heals i am gonna throw 1k your way. Doctors are shocked after i pay 13k for a buff, they heal my wounds i still send over a tip just to say thanks. However if a doctor demanded a tip from me to get rezzed i would tell them sure have them walk all the way to where i am risking danger and then clone.
-scuzzy-
Thu May 27, 2004 4:40 pm
#11
Aroma wrote:
...However it should be a tip, not a demand....i would tell them sure have them walk all the way to where i am risking danger and then clone.
The problem is that most people do not appreciate the difficulty or effort that the Doc is going to, and most will not tip, hence us requiring that they pay in advance. Buffs used to be buff first, pay after, then some idiots though ripping off the Doc by running away was a good idea. Now almost all Buff Docs asked to be paid in advance. Doing what you just described will only add to the number of Docs wanting pay in advance, and will not help your cause.
Charge to cure poisons? I don't, because I have very low costs thanks to guild run factories, and I harvest my own resources. An independent Doc who buys meds, is incurring a cost in materials, AND in time spent stopping what they're doing and coming to find you. They have every right to ask that they be compensated, and if you don't agree, just say no, don't be a dumass about it
WarFerret
Thu May 27, 2004 4:42 pm
#12
I don't know, expecting another player to drop what they're doing and immediately come to wherever you are, just to save YOU the decay and cost of cloning purely from the goodness of their heart is a touch much.
Especially if that involves fighting their way through a bunch of red cons to reach you, you have to make it worth their while, forcing them to beat their way to you and then cloning just to spite them is a terrible attitude and will guarantee that you never get anything from them ever again.
Doctors in SWG never took the hippocratic oath, we are not bound to aid those in need, especially if it means putting ourselves in danger, medics in war movies are always heroes for sure, but this isn't a war movie, it's a game, if you die, it's not the end of the world, you can start over in seconds, if you want us to save you the time and trouble of cloning and you didn't die in front of us, you owe us more than a "thanks", because this isn't a job, and we aren't obliged to do it.
Personally I am sick and tired of the medical professions in games getting crap from all the other players who think we exist purely to cater to them, even in EQ I had "hey Cleric boy, I need a heal over here!" shouts from players, like the time it took for me to recover Mana from doing that was completely insignificant, we're playing the game too, we aren't SOE employees here to make your life easier.
Nexxus82
Thu May 27, 2004 4:51 pm
#13
Ok here it is the simple truth. Why should we not demand money for our services?? Why? I want to hear an awnser to that one. I don't wanna hear cause its expected cause that is not an awnser that is an excuse not to awnser as far as I am concerned. I mean we have smugglers that charge for slicing and for spices. They arn't free are they? I mean how much money does a smuggler spend to make his tools. Maybe 85 credits if that cause quality doesn't matter. Yet a smuggler can charge quite a bit for a slice. Rezzing, healing, curing they are all services that we as Docs offer to other players. I know that I am not playing this game to heal people when they want it or where they want it. I am here to have fun and it personally puts me in a sour mood when I risk dying myself to rez some one and get nothing in return for it but a Thx Doc. If they dont wanna pay it then screw 'em.
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