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Thread: Spells omg... :(

Arryth
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:54 am
#1

From tinkering with the medic on the cu test center it looks like our heals are spells... This is quite a bit different... Im not sure what to think...

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Simme
Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:50 pm
#2






Arryth wrote:
From tinkering with the medic on the cu test center it looks like our heals are spells... This is quite a bit different... Im not sure what to think...

Message Edited by Arryth on 04-02-2005 04:54 AM





it still may be a good thing to get rid of the damn stim packs since docs will not need any crafting anymore :/ i heard it was moved to BE...
Rehavam
Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:09 pm
#3


Simme, are you here to provoke?



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SinfulDoom
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:20 pm
#4

I secondyour motion Rehavam.



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MyT_Chicken
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:43 pm
#5



I don't get it.....In the current system they feel like spells to......the only reason they weren't considered so is because we had items. Items that never even showed up in the emotes.....I seriously fail to see the complaint of saving invertory space.




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Rodian-Bob
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:51 pm
#6

Anyone else remember the Ranged Healing debate prior to launch, pre-beta even?


If you think about it, CM abilities were always considered to require a pretty significant suspension-of-disbelief. The only difference now is that it doesn't require an icon in your inventory that says 'ranged stim-C'.


So now Medic/Doctor professionals can Spray Bacta at will. I don't really have a problem with this.


I mean think about it, when you die, YOU GET CLONED. Not dipped in a bacta tube after your friends drag you back to the base, BUT CLONED.


You are not yourself, but a copy of an original. Spell-like healing abilities are the least of your concerns. Imagine it as a psionic or force power instead if that makes you feel better.



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SinfulDoom
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:53 pm
#7

if you were a former crafter you would undertand... Granted it might not have appeared we were doing anything when a doc applied a buff but it was actually using an object within the game to make it possible. I cant image whyyou actually like having the game simplified down to the point they are initially. It was the complexity that kept me coming back. There is so much depth to the game now that might be washed away and lost in the CU. Is it that hard for you to realize why people are upset?



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SinfulDoom
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:02 pm
#8


Rodian-Bob The problem with res kits is that they called it a "res kit." Would you have been happier if they called it a defibrillator?



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Rehavam
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:26 pm
#9






MyT_Chicken wrote:



I don't get it.....In the current system they feel like spells to......the only reason they weren't considered so is because we had items. Items that never even showed up in the emotes.....I seriously fail to see the complaint of saving invertory space.






By this argument we could also get rid of weapons -with novice marksmanyou will get a virtual ranged weapon and when you progress in the skill tree it will get more powerful. Who cares about weaponsmiths, waste of time and inventory space!


Also, look at that armor. Needs too much inventory space too. This could be integrated into the combat skills as well! Perhaps even with a magic spell to change vulnerability!


At the end, everything is just inventory space. It's a computer game, a huge interactive database of 1 and 0's. Who needs all those graphics, just a waste of computing power if you ask me. Why don't just display a console where we can interact with simple commands?





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SinfulDoom
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:30 pm
#10

wow Rehavam, how did I not see this before. Great idea.

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MyT_Chicken
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:42 pm
#11




SinfulDoom wrote:

if you were a former crafter you would undertand... Granted it might not have appeared we were doing anything when a doc applied a buff but it was actually using an object within the game to make it possible. I cant image whyyou actually like having the game simplified down to the point they are initially. It was the complexity that kept me coming back. There is so much depth to the game now that might be washed away and lost in the CU. Is it that hard for you to realize why people are upset?





Umm I do craft....And yes I do think that simplifying some of the stuff is better for the game.If you want to Craft....then do so, you will have a largercustomer base anyways.





SinfulDoom wrote:


Rodian-Bob The problem with res kits is that they called it a "res kit." Would you have been happier if they called it a defibrillator?





CPR doesn't require "Items" but it saves lives. There is no difference.





Rehavam wrote:





MyT_Chicken wrote:



I don't get it.....In the current system they feel like spells to......the only reason they weren't considered so is because we had items. Items that never even showed up in the emotes.....I seriously fail to see the complaint of saving invertory space.






By this argument we could also get rid of weapons -with novice marksmanyou will get a virtual ranged weapon and when you progress in the skill tree it will get more powerful. Who cares about weaponsmiths, waste of time and inventory space!


Also, look at that armor. Needs too much inventory space too. This could be integrated into the combat skills as well! Perhaps even with a magic spell to change vulnerability!


At the end, everything is just inventory space. It's a computer game, a huge interactive database of 1 and 0's. Who needs all those graphics, just a waste of computing power if you ask me. Why don't just display a console where we can interact with simple commands?







Your right, they could do that.....but then the game would be totally unrealistic. Let me put it this way....having to carry around all the resources, sub components, crates of this and that, all the "best" Medical Supplies you can make....was the biggest waste of space out of any profession. No other profession had to carry what we did. Some may have choosen to, but it was out ability to craft on the go that hurt us because were were limited by space.


I agree with what you are saying, but I for one hated having no room for anything because I have all my medical stuff take up 75% of my inventory space.....no to mention 1 guild hall, 2 small houses and 3 factories....just to do my job.






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SinfulDoom
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:47 pm
#12

MyT_Chicken, Im not sure how well CPR will work when the paitent has a carbine hole burned into its arm... I'm thinking beating on his chest might be the wrong course of action here.





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SinfulDoom
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:54 pm
#13

And yes you are right. I can keep crafting meds. The problem for me is the significance in the meds I craft is much less significant. The resources I have collected for specific meds might be obsolete. But oh well, I guess we just have different opinions on this matter. You want it to be easy I want it to be complex. To each his own.





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