Doctor Archive

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Sinara-Snake wrote:

I've got a question, the Avian Meat that is mostly used for the current buffs being made. Will the same stats on that particular meat be worth anything after the CU?

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Ojes wrote:

2 products use avian meat - they are: Nutrient Injection Enhancer and Endorphine Injection Enhancer (Dath only)

I suspect that I am a little luckier than some in that Flurry had an excellent spawn of Dath avian a couple days before the CU documents were published, so I have 2-3 stacks of really nice Dath avian to use on this new product. The real question is are the products (all of them other than stims) going to be worth producing as a business.

The Nutrient Injection Enhancer requires (assuming 150cpu for avian, and 3cpu for all machine harvestables):

125 Avian @ 150cpu = 18750

100 Reactive @ 3cpu = 300

7aSDS (32 units per) @ 3cpu = 672

7aDM (50 units per) @ 3cpu = 1050

7aIA (56 units per) @ 3cpu = 1176

For a total resource cost of 21948 per pack. I know that I will be likely to not sell them for less than 50k per pack (likely 70-80k to maintain profit margin). In my opinion, the product will have to provide significant improvement to the user to justify that kind of cost (even if there are 40-50 charges per pack - which is not known at this time).

The Endorphine Injection Enhancer is only slightly better:

75 Dath Avian @150cpu = 11250

125 Methane Reactive @3cpu = 375

8aDM (50 units per) @3cpu = 1200

8aRC (48 units per) @3cpu = 1152

8aIA (56 units per) @3cpu = 1344

For a total resource cost of 15321 per pack.

You must also keep in mind that my cost for machine harvestables (3cpu) is not typically held on these forums. If you advance that assumption to 8cpu, the resource costs go to 27278 for the Nutrient Injection Enhancer and 22106 for the Endorphine Injection Enhancer.

In order for my prices to come down, my costs must come down. The only meaningful way for that to happen is if I can convince hunters to collect avian for less than 150cpu. I have tried in the past and did not get much success (even after the solo-groups went away). Perhaps with the enhanced difficulty in the field, people will look at 50cpu for avian meat as a sufficient augmentation to their normal mission payouts, but I have serious doubts about that.

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Rehavam wrote:

Well... there is one med that uses 90 (!!!) fish - considering we pay a ranger/scout arround 500K per hour (this is approx. why avian meat is 100 up to 500 cpu depending on planet, quality and server) - you could calculate fish at 5000cpu. Which would be 450K only for the fish meat to craft one single pack.

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I agree completely. That product will likely never be mass-produced. It will become a true differentiator for a seriously dedicated doctor. If you are willing to go out and hunt the resource yourself (or get it hunted cheaply by someone), you might be able to bring a BE a stack of 1k fish and have him make you a few packs. There will likely be even more bartering than before.

MD - Hey, do you have any Traumatize Enhancers in stock?

Pharmacist - Not at the moment, but if you will bring me 1k fish, I'd be happy to make a couple packs for you. By the way - the best fish right now is on Tatooine.

MD - Will they be high quality?

Pharmacist - Not quite as good as if you were fishing last week on Dath, but not too bad.

MD - How's your stock of Deuterium Toss Enhancers?

Pharmacist - Sorry, all out of those too. But if you will go get me 1k Lok Wild Milk and 1k Endorian Mollusk, I'd be very pleased to make a couple packs for you.

I envision this as the new model for the products that require super rare resources. It will be cost prohibitive to keep large stocks of most of the new creature resources, so you will have to entice the doctors out there to go get it for themselves. Of course,I am speakingas an independent pharmacist. Guilded pharmacists should be able to get decent quantities of the best in-spawn resources just by asking, right?

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Ojes wrote:

I envision this as the new model for the products that require super rare resources. It will be cost prohibitive to keep large stocks of most of the new creature resources, so you will have to entice the doctors out there to go get it for themselves. Of course,I am speakingas an independent pharmacist. Guilded pharmacists should be able to get decent quantities of the best in-spawn resources just by asking, right?

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TarMangani wrote:

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On the other hand, if this goes live, then the avian many of us have in storage, (now rendered nearly useless compared to its former value), will be used up, probably at a reduced price, just to move the resource inventory...

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Ojes wrote:

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TarMangani wrote:

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On the other hand, if this goes live, then the avian many of us have in storage, (now rendered nearly useless compared to its former value), will be used up, probably at a reduced price, just to move the resource inventory...

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Fair enough, but I will not be selling any med for less than what I paid for the resources. I have worked rather hard to collect these resources at a reasonable price (supporting a number of hunters and miners/farmers along the way since my lots were mostly tied up with factories til recently).

I would rather produce stim As with Rori Avian and Class4 and sell em for 1980 a pack (my resource cost) before I sell these new enhancers at a loss.

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Wouldn't it be GRAND if the devs actually came out and TOLD us what was going to happen to our stuff? I mean, sometime before the night of the CU? (GASP)...

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TarMangani wrote:

Wouldn't it be GRAND if the devs actually came out and TOLD us what was going to happen to our stuff? I mean, sometime before the night of the CU? (GASP)...

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Ojes wrote:

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TarMangani wrote:

Wouldn't it be GRAND if the devs actually came out and TOLD us what was going to happen to our stuff? I mean, sometime before the night of the CU? (GASP)...

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And I would like to think that they aren't releasing that information because they are dreaming up elaborate schemes to ensure proper conversion (possibly even with the direction of the player) and want to get it right before they give us the details.

I don't hold much hope for that though.

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SinfulDoom wrote:

TarMangani why would they want to do that? It would be just too........... nice........ of em.

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Message Edited by redog22 on 04-12-2005 07:30 PM