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Thread: congrads swg if this goes live

toothlessviper
Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:08 pm
#1


from what i have read. ill take my 3 accounts and deleat all of them. quit game.. Ive been a crafting doc far to long to be destroyed like this. Yay for your update.


1st off i was told we had some doc's who where watching out for us... glad a few helped change thing to the point that ill be leaving.


Im just sick.... not going to make this a bad thing, just a game. will miss many of you here. sad day for me after reading the stuff that is comming in this update.


i worked hard to make my meds shop nice... what a waste of time.



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Message Edited by toothlessviper on 03-26-2005 01:36 PM



POIZEN MIA news reports say she was last seen getting carried away by some creature called darth CU. many others are also missing. Please mail any info to swg's( we dont care department).

OK, who forgot to feed the dev's ? they have been using their nerf macro again! ahhh dev's NGE Not Good Entertainment. yup you named that one right!
TarMangani
Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:17 pm
#2

Reactions like this may be premature. I would at least recommend learning more about the CU before going straight to "I quit" mode...


Of course if it's this bad afterwards, well then I fear there will be a bit of anexodus...



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toothlessviper
Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:35 pm
#3

you know... i tried to argue about this before. everyone said wait and see.... well ive been waiting and everything i was worried about, they are doing.


after talking about this with people on ahazi i will not be the only one going. so far 30 are on the edge of going and thats just the ones ive talked too...


im going to wait... see what goes live, and if its like what i have read... well it will be good bye.



no im not being a doom sayer. I tried talking about this before and was told the same thing over and over again. wait and see... so far what im seeing is alot of the friends i have LEFT are going to quit if this goes live... I will be one of them I guess.



I dont think i should wait any longer to voice my opion, i tried that. Ive never wanted a jedi so crafting is what i did. i craft 300 sets of buffs a week. stims i cant count how many, Ispend many hours hunting for the stuff i need. So now i should just sit and watch the one thing i enjoy doing in this game crash all around me, sorryI will not do that any longer.


guess im just sad... but if this does go live my wife will be happy, to bad i will not.



POIZEN MIA news reports say she was last seen getting carried away by some creature called darth CU. many others are also missing. Please mail any info to swg's( we dont care department).

OK, who forgot to feed the dev's ? they have been using their nerf macro again! ahhh dev's NGE Not Good Entertainment. yup you named that one right!
Dedshift
Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:03 pm
#4

If the CU changes the game that much I to will Pull my 4 accounts also.

I came back after I month at EQ2 and WOW each,finally got MD.

We will see after the Cu.

I dont under why they Dont make the CU another Game.

Give them the CU and Wookie,and let us keep this style and JTL.

Or if enough people leave they might add servers and we will have a choice on styles to play Old or Cu.
toothlessviper
Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:56 pm
#5

sad thing is from what i have read so far.. might as well go back you eq2... they are making this game more like that one....



POIZEN MIA news reports say she was last seen getting carried away by some creature called darth CU. many others are also missing. Please mail any info to swg's( we dont care department).

OK, who forgot to feed the dev's ? they have been using their nerf macro again! ahhh dev's NGE Not Good Entertainment. yup you named that one right!
ChaSeb
Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:42 pm
#6

go back to eq2 then...




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Eskie
Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:37 pm
#7

I wouldnt speak of leaving right now. I am master rifles / master doc, and I took doc because it was helping me in combat and also gave me a shot at crafing (before I crafted my own, I bought from toothlessviper, btw ).

Apparently they wanted to seperate crafting and combat professions with the CU, maybe its easier for them to balance, and because of the great healing abilities during combat (state cures / rezzes) docs are considered a combat profession.

With this, I am a little nerfed because I took doc for crafting _and_ fighting, but everybody who is only using master doc for the crafting side can just re-allocate the skill points to the BE crafting line(s) then. In fact, it will free up 19 skill points (3 lines of medic and master medic less, one line of scout and novice scout more), assuming one is going for master BE.

What I am most worried about is the resources the new schematics will take and the experimentation / assembly skill tapes I have so far (11pt doc suit, 12pt doc suit and 12pt combat medic suit, although I havent started CM crafting yet).

Concerning the resources, it would be a huge kick in the a$$ of all docs if the current doc resources would be de-valued a lot. SOE has no reason to do this, and I trust in the docs in the alpha test that they assure that the new schems (BE and / or medic) will take the old resources, and that avian in particular will be used as a prime resource for the item that will be most in demand. If this is not the case, I will strongly consider quitting SWG since I have most of my earnings in this game tied up in doc resources.

Concerning the experimentation tapes, my guess is that medical tapes will still be used in the Medic crafting line, so docs will be degraded from 12pt doc to 7pt medic. Unless they put the full +100 med exp skill in the medic tree, as it is with all other crafting professions (BE has +100 from novice till master, so has artisan, AS, WS and whatnot).

The only thing I am concerned about is the current CM tapes. There will be no CM crafting in the future, and I strongly hope that BE medical crafting tapes will be introduced (yes, BE _medical_ crafting tapes, because otherwise existing BEs will get angry a lot according to their forums), and that CM tapes will be converted into those.

So in conclusion, I am worried about the resources but dont see any reason for SOE to nerf us there, and I am worried about CM tapes, which I got cheap anyway (400k / point on average). What most disturbs me is that I will have to choose between the combat healer (doc with medic x44x probably) or the medical crafter role (BE with medic xxx4, scout xx4x probably) and cant do both anymore while keeping master rifles.

Long post, but in essence: Lets wait and see and kick our testers butts if they screw up.



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Chewcabo
Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:52 pm
#8

You guys are prematurly making decisions on one small piece of a note that was released . You should at least wait until this hits testcenter so you can see for yourself what is actually happening. Not to mention they have stated that for professions that are changed you would get at least one reroll of your skill points. I recommend waiting until it hits testcenter before jumping ship. We all know for a fact buffs have unbalanced the game we have to admit that. So, we should accept the fact that whatever changes that are coming were indeed needed to bring everything back into check along with the combat professions. Stims will still have to be crafted by someone weather it be a medic or a BE. We just don't get the money making buffpacks we are all so use to making the cash off of. I know on scylla a 5 pack of 900+ packs runs average 2 mil. We will just have to adjust to the new playstyle. i'm rambling now . thats my 2 cr.



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Eskie
Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:04 pm
#9



Chewcabo wrote:
(...) I know on scylla a 5 pack of 900+ packs runs average 2 mil. (...)






Geeez, Scylla economy has a lot of inflation, i guess - on Ahazi the same would go for around 750k at most.



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Chewcabo
Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:11 pm
#10

yea our economy has been hurt since the first exploit money duping that went unchecked for a month. when the game first came out. ever since then we have been paying through the nose for everything. I use to sell armor at 350k per set of unsliced comp.



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toothlessviper
Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:52 pm
#11


hey cha ive never played eq2, and if you dont like what i said bug off. i dont want this turned into eq2. that game bites. thats what im getting at. keep swg a good game. not a clone of some other game.

Message Edited by toothlessviper on 03-26-2005 05:52 PM



POIZEN MIA news reports say she was last seen getting carried away by some creature called darth CU. many others are also missing. Please mail any info to swg's( we dont care department).

OK, who forgot to feed the dev's ? they have been using their nerf macro again! ahhh dev's NGE Not Good Entertainment. yup you named that one right!
ImpDoc_001
Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:11 pm
#12






Eskie wrote:





Chewcabo wrote:

(...) I know on scylla a 5 pack of 900+ packs runs average 2 mil. (...)








Geeez, Scylla economy has a lot of inflation, i guess - on Ahazi the same would go for around 750k at most.




I'm pretty sure he means a factory crate of five, not a five use pack. That's a little high for the Valcyn server at least for the two crafting docs I have bought from. There are a couple with the reputation of being the best on the server, and I am not impressed with their quality or price. That can be attributed to lesser quality resource spawns though, or higher prices for avian. I don't know, I didn't ask, as I found suppliers who could regularly turn out 900+ matching sets (all stats match, all durations same). I also got a considerable discount from my major source, which is why my price for buffs was regularly lower than the average. At least after I mastered, there are still those that will just tip more without asking.


As far as making me leave the game, it won't happen for me. I am looking forward to two games though, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, and Middle-Earth Online which has been pushed back to a 2006 release. I can assure you this, if either of those games blows SWG out of the water in mechanics, story, and customer service I will likely slowly leave SWG. But a massive change in the doctor profession will not chase me away. I will be very upset if there is no compensation fo rexisting ehance packs if they are not used before the CURB goes live. I am more than willing to give the changes a chance, but like many others, I have quite a bit of money reinvested in stock which will be lost if there is no conversion. Nothing I can do about it but b!tch and moan, or quit in disgust. I will take Option A for now.







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Rehavam
Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:18 am
#13








Chewcabo wrote:

yea our economy has been hurt since the first exploit money duping that went unchecked for a month.







Buy your buff sets from me then...


I'm selling 10 sets P950 for 2m. I don't think any doc on Scylla could sell anything if they'd price 5 sets P900+ for 2m... That price was true before the resource kits got introduced - not all docs sold for inflated prices though and definitely not now.


And yeah, I have to agree with the original poster. I am very close to quit if my fears come true. I've chosen Doc because it gave me the ability to craft and support myself in battle. If I chose to continue to craft and go BE I can basicly give up my combat skills because it wouldn't matter after all... also my combat class needs more skill points after the CU. Not good.

They should open the second character slot for everyone, not only for Jedi's. This might convince me to stay even if they would seperate crafting doc and the supporting doc role.

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