Doctor Archive
Thread: Idea for Buffing
•Nerf buffs so I can’t solo just about everything in the game as a MD/Master Rifleman to encourage group hunting.
•Eliminate the ability to entertain AFK.
•Prevent getting med exp from tumblers or buffing pets.
Ashine wrote:
"1. Have a buff vendor …"
I think this is a terrible idea! What makes this game special is the content created by the interaction between characters. What you propose eliminates the character interaction required to get “buffed.” The lines while annoying are a dynamic of the game that convinced me to become a doctor. I’m sure there are many docs like me that like the idea they can save guild mates time (money isn’t an issue for most of them), by buffing them. As an incentive to join an active guild this encourages group interaction
Rather than making changes to game that discourage character interaction as you suggest, I would like to see changes that encourage interaction such as:
•Nerf buffs so I can’t solo just about everything in the game as a MD/Master Rifleman to encourage group hunting.
•Eliminate the ability to entertain AFK.
•Prevent getting med exp from tumblers or buffing pets.
While I agree character interaction is important, I don't think it happens in doctor q's. When I was a doc all I got was "hi, thanks cya", or "hi how much and what stats?".
This is similar to the comments of when shuttle times were 10 minutes and people said its a good time to interact. It wasn't because people were too annoyed to interact with each other. All that was said is "wish this dam shuttle would arrive", or /tar ticket collector, /tantrum, etc. Or people would go afk, cant even do that in a doc line.
By the time most of us get to the front of a doc q we just want buffs as fast as possible and toget out of there. The doc just wants their money as fast as possible so they work through people as fast as possible.
Now I did have some funny conversations while I buffed some people. But say I buffed about 60 people that day, I had about 3 who conversed with me other than just being polite and saying hi and thanks. Even though I used to be a doc, i'm so fed up in line that I can't be bothered to have a conversation with the doc anymore. When lines were shorter I used to talk to them, but that was before I was a doctor, when getting buffed was easy enough to do.
Times have changed now and the system needs changing for administering them. This isnt a nerf cry, far from it, all I want is the docs to get the same money for their effort and customers of the doctors (and soe)to be happy. If you like being a doc and administering buffs then fair enough, just think of the players who have to stand in that line. I didn't notice when I was a doctor either, but beleive me if you ever decide to drop it (major loss imo), you will see what I'm talking about.
Also you say the lines encouraged you to become a doctor, I bet the main reason for that was you were fed up of standing in them, and thought it would be more beneficial (sp?), to make the money from it rather than being the one spending the money.
Knocky wrote:
Doesn't really matter what ideas we come up with.
The Devs already have their own ideas which we will all find out once the sandbox kicks off and the Devs let out their revamp information.
The best we can hope for is to not see our profession get shafted in the race to nerf all players down to Day One abilities.
Way back when...the Devs started freaking when Weaponsmiths and Armorsmiths plus Docs got good enough to equip players with powerful items and stats to go out and solo red-cons.
I think they are finally going to do something about it now.
Hopefully they will remember that they have been ramping up the abilities of MOBs and will nerf them too.
I agree that it is unlikely any of these ideas will be implemented, but suggesting them doesn't hurt on the off chance a dev reads it and likes it. The combat rebalance im sure will alter the difficulty of mobs as well as our abilities. But this thread is about doctor q's and alternate ways of buffing.
). Not that I make money as a doc but there are some that do.
Mmaxx wrote:
If it is so inconvenient for you to wait in lines for buffs then spend the points needed to become a doc. Sorry if you can't have a spare buff waiting for you as you enter the geo cave or spawn camp some other area without spending the points but torching the bigest money maker in a profession to make your game easier is pretty self absorbed.
I got sick of waiting in lines so I picked up 0440 Doc to buff myself. If your sugestion were to come into play, my skills are of no value. I can't craft anything better then a stim B (although playing with looted items I made a 533 stim B
Taking the money away from the Coro SP buffer is about the rudest thing I've heard sugested. These people deserve a badge all their own for serving the gaming public the way they do. They do not deserve to loose their source of income. While you are off playing the game you want to play they are sitting there making sure you can play the game you want to play. They do make this imaginary money but not to the degree a master elite fighter can. You get to see different planet, explore new caves, ride the corvette, get DBed by SBDs in the dwb, talk to your friends, or have a chance to get a legendary loot. These docs buff you so you can do all that and you want them gone.
Making game changing sugestions on any profession right now is all a cows opinion anyway. The devs are working on JTL and other minor bugs. Nothing revolutionary will occur in this game for the next 3 months apart from JTL. They will throw us a couple bones to chew on with some events or special apperances (like the gorax) to try to keep us amused enough to maintain our subscriptions but do not expect any real changes to the game until next year.
If you took the time to read my post you will notice I used to be a doc. I was a master doc too not a dabbler like you. You want money get the crafting part of doc and stick your buffs in the vendor/droid, or buy them off other people for your vendor/droid. You can buy 300K sets of buff packs and make 900K easy with some left over for self and friend buffs.
Also if you had read you would realise this is an alternate way of buffing. You still have to buy the buffs off of doctors, so they make exatly the same amount of money. I can't get doctor back because I want to try out BH/pistols. I was a doctor for 6 months and felt like a change, nothing wrong with that is there?
Also read the later posts and we scrapped the idea of self buffs as med use, etc would affect it too much. Therefore you would still have to find a doc droid/vendor and buy the buffs rather that get self buffs at the geo cave like you say.
And why you accusing me of spawn camping, I've never done it and never will. Heck at the moment I'm not strong enough for the geo caves anyway, having dropped all my proffession to try something new. But even when I could solo the geo I never camped it.
Also we are not off playing the game we want because we have to stand in a line for up to 40 minutes not playing a game, but doing a chore. You don't seem to realise games are about fun. Well standing in a line isn't fun, in rl or in game.
Dont feed me that BS that docs don't get to do anything either because (A) they choose to buff and (B) they dont buff all day and all night. They buff make some money and do what they want after. Buffing is only a small part of a docs life, say a couple of hours a day, then huge pauses as they either buy more packs, or wait for good resources to come along.
You can chat to friends while buffing, and as I said read the post before saying I want buffs gone. At what point did I say that?
Before posting replies, make sure you read posts it does help. Though I don't know why I wrote this as youll probably read the first line and then either reply, 1 star, or ignore it.
flsdhalghjsdflgkshglajh wrote:
Hmm I read your response on the other post, and you say doctors would just become crafters. Well most doctors I see only buff people anyway, they don't heal diseases, wounds or poisens. Their only in the field when their using it withtheir combat proff. Very rarely do they help out players, other than buff. When I was a doc, if I saw someone with a disease I cured it unless they were overt. If I catch a disease and ask docs to heal it all I get is, sorry dont have any stims.
Its you who chooses buffs to be your only skill not the rest of us.
You're making assumptions. I am, in fact, primarily a crafting and group hunting doc. I have never been a Coronet buffer and never will be. My point was that your idea takes away a doctor's option to serve the public and takes away the only healing role that is regularly needed.Do the "rest of us" tell other professions how they should play? Taking our most utilized skill and giving it to everyone would be wrong.
I'm sorry but I really can't see why you want to sit in coronet with a q of people getting more impatient by the minute. As it is player rely on doctors to play the game. Even with the ideas I suggested we would still rely on doctors, but it would get rid of all the crap that goes with it.
Just because you can't see why people do it, doesn't mean other people don't enjoy it.
Alsosome of the arguments say don't allow self buffing. Well ok scrap that idea have the vendor/droid idea instead. Then not anyone would be able to buff or use any stims.
I can see this is just gonna be a 1 star all my posts thread, where noone listens to the ideas because your the ones sat at the front of the q making money, while the rest of us have to stand in line bored to tears before we can play. If trying to make a suggestion to improve things gets a 1 star then I feel the person (orpersons)who gave it are pretty imature.
If you hate waiting for buffs that much, find an alternative. Make friends with a doc. I buff my friends for free whenever they ask and even provide my guild's other docs with free packs so that they can do the same. My objection is not based on money. Only 1 line of doctor is crafting. buffing is the primary skill for using the healing lines. your idea would make those lines meaningless other than to cure poison and disease.
I'll leave this now as I can see its not gonna get anywhere.
You sure give up easily. If your going to post an idea like this, you should be prepared for people to disagree with you.
Obata wrote:
flsdhalghjsdflgkshglajh wrote:
Hmm I read your response on the other post, and you say doctors would just become crafters. Well most doctors I see only buff people anyway, they don't heal diseases, wounds or poisens. Their only in the field when their using it withtheir combat proff. Very rarely do they help out players, other than buff. When I was a doc, if I saw someone with a disease I cured it unless they were overt. If I catch a disease and ask docs to heal it all I get is, sorry dont have any stims.
Its you who chooses buffs to be your only skill not the rest of us.
You're making assumptions. I am, in fact, primarily a crafting and group hunting doc. I have never been a Coronet buffer and never will be. My point was that your idea takes away a doctor's option to serve the public and takes away the only healing role that is regularly needed.Do the "rest of us" tell other professions how they should play? Taking our most utilized skill and giving it to everyone would be wrong.
I'm sorry but I really can't see why you want to sit in coronet with a q of people getting more impatient by the minute. As it is player rely on doctors to play the game. Even with the ideas I suggested we would still rely on doctors, but it would get rid of all the crap that goes with it.
Just because you can't see why people do it, doesn't mean other people don't enjoy it.
Alsosome of the arguments say don't allow self buffing. Well ok scrap that idea have the vendor/droid idea instead. Then not anyone would be able to buff or use any stims.
I can see this is just gonna be a 1 star all my posts thread, where noone listens to the ideas because your the ones sat at the front of the q making money, while the rest of us have to stand in line bored to tears before we can play. If trying to make a suggestion to improve things gets a 1 star then I feel the person (orpersons)who gave it are pretty imature.
If you hate waiting for buffs that much, find an alternative. Make friends with a doc. I buff my friends for free whenever they ask and even provide my guild's other docs with free packs so that they can do the same. My objection is not based on money. Only 1 line of doctor is crafting. buffing is the primary skill for using the healing lines. your idea would make those lines meaningless other than to cure poison and disease.
I'll leave this now as I can see its not gonna get anywhere.
You sure give up easily. If your going to post an idea like this, you should be prepared for people to disagree with you.
I have doctor friends and remember how annoying it is as a doctor when people are constantly asking for buffs. I try not to ask my friends because it would irritate them and I don't want them to get as annoyed as I was getting with some people, who expected you to travel 3 starports to buff them for free. If I ask my friends they will buff me, but I don't feel right using my friends as buff bots all the time.
You may very well enjoy buffing and the long lines of unhappy players (or happy for those who like lining up, but i doubt thats anyone). Your entitled to your opinion and everyone likes different things. I know most players would rather not have to q up though. Bare in mind also, your the one at the front of the q receiving the money, and meeting all these players. I used to be in your spot and enjoyed it sometimes, but most of the time it was just a way to make quick money other than mokks/jantas. Now I'm the one stood in the q I see just how bad it is. You should understand that you are probably in the minority liking these q's. Sure doctors may back you up and you will have your support from 1 starers and otherdoctors on this forum. In game it would be all non doctors vs most (but not all) doctors.
My time online normally has 2 ways of going:
1st. I log in travel to coronet to get buffed. See the q's are stupidly long apart from the 1 doc who is selling for 50K or something daft. I log out, or I go to my house and talk on guild chat and nothing gets done.
2nd. I manage to pull enough patience to stand in a q. I've stood in these q's for 40 minutes sometimes and let me tell you, its mind numbingly boring. I go out hunting, and with me dropping my skills I sometimes get killed. So thats 40 minutes of wasted buffs. Now me getting killed is noones fault other than my own for not either /burstrun or sometimes if I get kd and dizzy and cant get out of it (even when I don't spam stand). This either leads to the buffs dying and the hunt over for the night, or me dying and logging because I can't be bothered to stand in a q again. As a master of melee proffs and a master doctor, this was no problem. Now I've started bh and pistols though I get killed much easier and dont have the ability to rebuff.
Also my idea is supposed to make those lines meaningless. Its suppose to offer an alternate way of getting buffed. The lines are the problem I'm addressing.I'm sure doctors can interact with players other than people in their buff q, cant they?
Reason I was ready for giving up was because I had no constructive responses, and was having someone 1 starring without giving any good reasons. I'm not giving up now as people like yourself are prepared to offer reasons as to why you don't like my ideas.
This would obviously affect doctors, but in a good way. As I stated in my 1st post you would have no chance of getting ripped off and would have all the time you wanted to do what you want, rather than sitting buffing. Although you say you dont sell buffs at starports, for those who do, and enjoy it, they could still do it. I'm sure given the option though, the players would opt for instant buffs from a droid/vendor.
Other than affecting doctors, it would change a lot in the game. People like myself would play more, coronet wouldn't be so busy and so not as laggy, doctors would have more time to do stuff other than buff, and players would be able to get straight into the game rather than waiting in a line.
If you have any ideas for ways to keep your lines and make it fun then I'm all ears.