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Thread: Purging buffs.

Imgragael
Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:37 pm
#1

Well, it has come down to a major question after I saw something quite remarkable the other day.

I was sitting in MO grinding away buffing so I can dump exp into my fs, when I saw a master doc
buff another player with 5 full sets of buffs, and each time the doc finished the buff, the player
would do something and all the buffs were gone, and they would start the process over.

I tried to ask them both how they were doing this, and neither would talk to me, and when I asked
players in my guild about this, they never heard of such a thing.

is there some command that exists, and if so what is it, and if not, what was I seeing?

Imgragael
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Marssk
Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:24 pm
#2

THey may have been buffing/killing/reviving? Other than that, I dunno



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pircio
Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:36 pm
#3

that's crazy talk... yeah we're gonna need more info, next time, see if you can get a screenie



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Imgragael
Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:46 pm
#4



pircio wrote:
that's crazy talk... yeah we're gonna need more info, next time, see if you can get a screenie





Crazy talk?

dude, what part of my post requires more information..

the guy getting buffed wasnt getting killed, wasnt kneeling, wasnt meditating, just standing there getting buffed repeatedly...

but since the original post I have seen the effects of using buffs in order of low buff 700's then over buffing with a next level all the way up to high buffs (890+)

but whether or not that is effecient has not yet been determined.

anyway, still curious about the possibility of purging.

Img



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Yoda: Only two there are, a master and an apprentice. No more, no less. Two is the number of Sith lords, and the number of Sith Lords is two. Four Sith Lords, there are none, neither one Sith Lord. Five is right out. The count of Sith Lords is two, being the second number, the sum of the total of Sith Lords available, being the number two.

--From JediNet's "Rejected Dialogue"
Marssk
Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:06 pm
#5






Imgragael wrote:





pircio wrote:

that's crazy talk... yeah we're gonna need more info, next time, see if you can get a screenie







Crazy talk?

dude, what part of my post requires more information..

the guy getting buffed wasnt getting killed, wasnt kneeling, wasnt meditating, just standing there getting buffed repeatedly...

but since the original post I have seen the effects of using buffs in order of low buff 700's then over buffing with a next level all the way up to high buffs (890+)

but whether or not that is effecient has not yet been determined.

anyway, still curious about the possibility of purging.

Img





nah, you'd onyl get xp for however much you buffed them; if you buff thenm for 2000, then use a 2100 buff you'll get the 1000 xp for the first, and then 50 xp for the 100 extra you buffed them the next time, so it would be a major waste of buffs



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rhisc
Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:57 pm
#6

Are you sure the recipient of the buff was purging his buff? When you overbuff someone the health for instance looks like it goes down to nothing then goes back up with the buff. My theory is that the doctor might have had 2 qualities of buffs. Lets say enhanced C's and Enhanced D's. He may also have 2 articles of clothing with wound treatment. Lets say a shirt with +15 and pants with +10. So he starts by buffing using the Enhanced C's with no wound treatment clothes. Then again with his +15 shirt. Then again finally with his +15 shirt and +10 pants. Now he uses his Enhanced D's with no wound treatment clothes etc. This is very possibly how he was doing it.




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rhisc
Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:25 pm
#7




Marssk wrote:





Imgragael wrote:





pircio wrote:

that's crazy talk... yeah we're gonna need more info, next time, see if you can get a screenie







Crazy talk?

dude, what part of my post requires more information..

the guy getting buffed wasnt getting killed, wasnt kneeling, wasnt meditating, just standing there getting buffed repeatedly...

but since the original post I have seen the effects of using buffs in order of low buff 700's then over buffing with a next level all the way up to high buffs (890+)

but whether or not that is effecient has not yet been determined.

anyway, still curious about the possibility of purging.

Img





nah, you'd onyl get xp for however much you buffed them; if you buff thenm for 2000, then use a 2100 buff you'll get the 1000 xp for the first, and then 50 xp for the 100 extra you buffed them the next time, so it would be a major waste of buffs






This is not true. I just tried buffing my pet first without wound treatment clothes then a second time with +25 clothes. The second time I buffed it said I enhanced by 76 and got full xp. Here is a screenie as proof:



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Marssk
Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:00 pm
#8






rhisc wrote:




Marssk wrote:



Imgragael wrote:



pircio wrote:
that's crazy talk... yeah we're gonna need more info, next time, see if you can get a screenie



Crazy talk?dude, what part of my post requires more information..the guy getting buffed wasnt getting killed, wasnt kneeling, wasnt meditating, just standing there getting buffed repeatedly...but since the original post I have seen the effects of using buffs in order of low buff 700's then over buffing with a next level all the way up to high buffs (890+)but whether or not that is effecient has not yet been determined.anyway, still curious about the possibility of purging.Img



nah, you'd onyl get xp for however much you buffed them; if you buff thenm for 2000, then use a 2100 buff you'll get the 1000 xp for the first, and then 50 xp for the 100 extra you buffed them the next time, so it would be a major waste of buffs




This is not true. I just tried buffing my pet first without wound treatment clothes then a second time with +25 clothes. The second time I buffed it said I enhanced by 76 and got full xp. Here is a screenie as proof:


Clicky





I stand corrected



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Marrow1
Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:53 pm
#9






rhisc wrote:

Are you sure the recipient of the buff was purging his buff? When you overbuff someone the health for instance looks like it goes down to nothing then goes back up with the buff. My theory is that the doctor might have had 2 qualities of buffs. Lets say enhanced C's and Enhanced D's. He may also have 2 articles of clothing with wound treatment. Lets say a shirt with +15 and pants with +10. So he starts by buffing using the Enhanced C's with no wound treatment clothes. Then again with his +15 shirt. Then again finally with his +15 shirt and +10 pants. Now he uses his Enhanced D's with no wound treatment clothes etc. This is very possibly how he was doing it.







You dont need two diffent buffs or anything like that. The exact same ones can be used. They just need to be equal to or higher than the original.


And as posted earlier, even if the second buff is equal to the first buff you will get the full amount of exp the buff would have given even if there was no first buff.





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Imgragael
Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:38 pm
#10

I guess that while there isnt a command to purge, when there isnt anyone around wanting buffs, I'll do the lesser to better method...

learn something new everyday.

thanks for the input guys.

Imgragael Master Doctor/fenser. DPS - Ad Lucem, Dantooine, Corbantis.



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--From JediNet's "Rejected Dialogue"
Legende
Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:30 pm
#11



Marrow1 wrote:


rhisc wrote:
Are you sure the recipient of the buff was purging his buff? When you overbuff someone the health for instance looks like it goes down to nothing then goes back up with the buff. My theory is that the doctor might have had 2 qualities of buffs. Lets say enhanced C's and Enhanced D's. He may also have 2 articles of clothing with wound treatment. Lets say a shirt with +15 and pants with +10. So he starts by buffing using the Enhanced C's with no wound treatment clothes. Then again with his +15 shirt. Then again finally with his +15 shirt and +10 pants. Now he uses his Enhanced D's with no wound treatment clothes etc. This is very possibly how he was doing it.



You dont need two diffent buffs or anything like that. The exact same ones can be used. They just need to be equal to or higher than the original.

And as posted earlier, even if the second buff is equal to the first buff you will get the full amount of exp the buff would have given even if there was no first buff.




I don't recall that being the way it was intended... how long has rebuffing been giving full xp? Sounds like a bug, unless I missed it in the patch notes.



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pircio
Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:12 am
#12






Imgragael wrote:





pircio wrote:

that's crazy talk... yeah we're gonna need more info, next time, see if you can get a screenie







Crazy talk?

dude, what part of my post requires more information..

the guy getting buffed wasnt getting killed, wasnt kneeling, wasnt meditating, just standing there getting buffed repeatedly...

but since the original post I have seen the effects of using buffs in order of low buff 700's then over buffing with a next level all the way up to high buffs (890+)

but whether or not that is effecient has not yet been determined.

anyway, still curious about the possibility of purging.

Img




i'm a little late on this one, but thats more info, thanks



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Marrow1
Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:58 am
#13






Legende wrote:





Marrow1 wrote:





rhisc wrote:

Are you sure the recipient of the buff was purging his buff? When you overbuff someone the health for instance looks like it goes down to nothing then goes back up with the buff. My theory is that the doctor might have had 2 qualities of buffs. Lets say enhanced C's and Enhanced D's. He may also have 2 articles of clothing with wound treatment. Lets say a shirt with +15 and pants with +10. So he starts by buffing using the Enhanced C's with no wound treatment clothes. Then again with his +15 shirt. Then again finally with his +15 shirt and +10 pants. Now he uses his Enhanced D's with no wound treatment clothes etc. This is very possibly how he was doing it.







You dont need two diffent buffs or anything like that. The exact same ones can be used. They just need to be equal to or higher than the original.


And as posted earlier, even if the second buff is equal to the first buff you will get the full amount of exp the buff would have given even if there was no first buff.






I don't recall that being the way it was intended... how long has rebuffing been giving full xp? Sounds like a bug, unless I missed it in the patch notes.



Well for me at least rebuffing came at a time whenI was already maxed on exp. so I can't say it started right away or not. However, I can say that since the village came around it has been this way.





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