Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Jedi Feedback: Crystal Drop Rates
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Thunderheart
Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:52 pm
#1
A key detail in the new Jedi system is the relationships of crystals, pearlsand a Jedi's lightsaber. A Jedi needs these things to maintain their lightsaber.
- How are crystal drop rates? How did you measure the drop rate?
Example:
- 100 Nightsisters = 4 crystals
- 250 Tuskens = 15 crystals
- 15,000 ewoks = 27 crystals (I like killin' ewoks...)
- Where did you get your drops from?
- What were the stats on the crystal/pearl? (Please identify if it is a pearl/crystal along with the stats)
Tips on finding the crystals while on TC and TC2:
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Creatures that should drop Power crystals:
Tuskens, Nightsisters, Ewoks, Janta, Kunga, Various Wild Force Wielders on Dantooine, Lokian Pirates, High Level Corvette Mobs, NPC Dark Jedi/Light Jedi
Creatures that should drop Color Crystals:
- Hutt expedition force surveyor, Lost aqualish bomber, Lost aqualish marksman, Lord nyax disciple, Marooned pirate engineer, Weequay captain, Alkhara champion, Binayre swindler, Lost aqualish marshal, Narmle commander, Binayre chief, Nym urveyer, Hutt expedition force leader, Brigand leader
loomis001
Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:17 pm
#4
been killing aqua bombers and marksman 1500 each crystals drop ver very rarly needs to be upped.
Tstorm
Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:08 pm
#5
I went through the Aqualish cave on Talus 4 times. Out of the noted mobs that drop crystals:
47 lost aqualish marksman: 1 color crystal
54 lost aqualish bomber: 1 color crystal
6 lost aqualish marshall: 0 crystals
During one of my trips through, 1 color crystal also dropped from a lost aqualish commando (wasn't on the list of mobs that dropped them). I'm not sure if this was supposed to happen, but figured I'd mention it.
Overall, for color crystals I'm fairly satisfied with the drop rate although I wouldn't mind seeing it upped a little more. What I don't want to see is players farming these things and selling them for millions of credits.
I went to the Kunga Stronghold on Dantooine and killed about 100 Kungas and got zero crystals.
47 lost aqualish marksman: 1 color crystal
54 lost aqualish bomber: 1 color crystal
6 lost aqualish marshall: 0 crystals
During one of my trips through, 1 color crystal also dropped from a lost aqualish commando (wasn't on the list of mobs that dropped them). I'm not sure if this was supposed to happen, but figured I'd mention it.
Overall, for color crystals I'm fairly satisfied with the drop rate although I wouldn't mind seeing it upped a little more. What I don't want to see is players farming these things and selling them for millions of credits.
I went to the Kunga Stronghold on Dantooine and killed about 100 Kungas and got zero crystals.
TickTock
Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:12 pm
#6
3 NS initiates
12 NS rangers
17 NS stalkers
1 damage crystal, fair quality
14 damage, 0 FC, -0.05 speed
Ironically I got the crystal off of the initiate. I suppose it's not a horrible drop rate, but it disturbed me slightly that all of the much harder NS's dropped nothing.
RAMBOW
Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:17 pm
#7
With the new system we have a max of 4 pearls/crystals in our sabers. Now they decay and the saber doesnt. In the old system we could atleast repair the sabers to extend their life, now we cant. I actually see the new system as a big step in the wrong direction.
I played on TC2 and my crystals wore out just as fast as my saber did on live. Crystals drop more regularly now, but we are still completely dependent on the economy. We shouldnt be at all. We HAVE to pay for buffs, and we HAVE to buy crystals. This is unfair to us. I have never read a book or seen a movie where a jedi pays 500k for a crystal... have you TH?
Why couldnt we get instance Crystal Caves for jedi only? or quest based systems?
emo-kor
Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:30 pm
#8
RAMBOW wrote:
With the new system we have a max of 4 pearls/crystals in our sabers. Now they decay and the saber doesnt. In the old system we could atleast repair the sabers to extend their life, now we cant. I actually see the new system as a big step in the wrong direction.
I played on TC2 and my crystals wore out just as fast as my saber did on live. Crystals drop more regularly now, but we are still completely dependent on the economy. We shouldnt be at all. We HAVE to pay for buffs, and we HAVE to buy crystals. This is unfair to us. I have never read a book or seen a movie where a jedi pays 500k for a crystal... have you TH?
Why couldnt we get instance Crystal Caves for jedi only? or quest based systems?
QFE
There needs to be an in game quest for jedi only where they can obtain a damage crystal of low / med quality.
Also Jedi should be able to craft color crystals, most people want to be able to pick the color of their saber.
Kitoth
Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:31 pm
#9
Crystal drop rates on TC2 seem a bit odd. I've looted more crystals on TC1 in the past two weeks than I have on TC2. Could just be due to more players on TC2 looting more mobs and spreading the luck further out between. Did get 6 (a mix of color and power) in one session at Ft. Tusken on TC1, killing Chiefs and Captains (maybe 1 for every 10?). Have yet to loot a crystal on TC2 myself, although I've seen them drop in groups off nightsister rangers at a rate of about 1 for every 15, but that's not consistent. You can hit dry patches in which you'll kill 50 and not get 1, or get 2 off 2 rangers in row.
Still believe color crystals should either be craftable or immune to decay. There is no reason you should have to rely on a loot item just to use your weapon. Since you can't even equip a saber without a color crystal, they need to be easily obtained.
On my one pearl-hunting expedition on TC2 we netted 4 premium pearls off of 6 giant canyon krayts. Not sure if that was just lucky or represents the new drop rate for pearls. I hope it is the latter, as given the time invested in killing one of those, you really deserve the reward.
Still believe color crystals should either be craftable or immune to decay. There is no reason you should have to rely on a loot item just to use your weapon. Since you can't even equip a saber without a color crystal, they need to be easily obtained.
On my one pearl-hunting expedition on TC2 we netted 4 premium pearls off of 6 giant canyon krayts. Not sure if that was just lucky or represents the new drop rate for pearls. I hope it is the latter, as given the time invested in killing one of those, you really deserve the reward.
Shiznat9000
Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:02 pm
#10
The drop rate on everything is way too low. Since you can't repair crystals like you used to be able to repair lightsabers, and since you don't get thefree 100% restore on the lightsaber when you add another crystal like you used to,that means crystals have got to be easier to find. Also the number of jedi running around on live after pub 10 is going to triple at least. However the hunting of npcs that drop crystals is not going to increase much. People already hunt these npcs a lot and yet the supply of crystals is barely meeting demand on live. It's hard enough to find anyone selling a crystal, let alone selling a crystal worth using for a non-outrageous price.
Here's how you fix it. Replace all the "reb/imp transmission x of 4" and all those other useless datapad loot drops with poor quality crystals. (Are the devs even aware these still drop?) Then everyone will have many poor crystals so they canat least get some small improvements to their damage. But to get a good saber you will still have to go hunt the high level mobs for the rare good crystal drops.
TickTock
Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:33 pm
#11
Keep in mind that while you can't repair crystals, they seem to be decaying pretty damn slow, especially when you have 4+ in a saber. Decay is dispersed among them, color crystal included. However, that being said, I still think there should be a non-homicidal way for Jedi to get color crystals. Allow them to craft statless color crystals, maybe limited to blue/green. While they obviously won't be as good as looted damage crystals, they can allow the Jedi to use his saber of choice without having to go on a very non-Jedi killing spree, and maybe bide their time while finding better components.
StringereDomani
Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:34 pm
#12
Read my signature if you want to know what I think about "crystal drops." Also, why not take a gander at the top five Jedi issues this publish completely ignores as well as every thread JustG started in regards to crystal drops to get an inkling what the community thinks about crystals and pearls as loot only components in sabers.
ARC_Casper
Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:41 pm
#13
About 20 darkside of the force wielders and Force sensative crystal hunters i killed (cleared the crystal caves on dantooine.) aobut the 5th one i killed i got a damage crystal.
-2 Max/Min
-0.07 Speed
1 Wound
H:-3
A:-2
M:-1
FC:-6
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