Development Cycle Archive
Thread: SWG Forum Ranking Changes...
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GarVa
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:42 pm
#1
We are currently in the process of revamping the Forum Ranking System, and wanted to fill you in on how it will work. We are changing it for two reasons. First to add diversity and fun to the ranking system (its pretty slim currently), and to encourage better use of the star ranking system. You can reply to this thread with your thoughts on this system. Please also make sure to read the questions at the bottom to ensure it that I did not already answer it, I will update that part of the thread as the replies come in.
Forum Ranking System
All users under 1 month "New Member"
There are 30 ranks after new member 6 of those are star ranks. Posters will get the normal rank -or- if their star rating is high enough they will get the star rank, star ranks will override any normal ranks. The only benefit of the star ranks is that you get them sooner than the normal community rank. All ranks above crewman have a "officer" insignia, gold for star ranks, Silver for regular ranks.
All users under 1 month "New Member"
There are 30 ranks after new member 6 of those are star ranks. Posters will get the normal rank -or- if their star rating is high enough they will get the star rank, star ranks will override any normal ranks. The only benefit of the star ranks is that you get them sooner than the normal community rank. All ranks above crewman have a "officer" insignia, gold for star ranks, Silver for regular ranks.
The colors that the line is written in below will be the "name" color for each rank
Required for rank 1 (Member same as current) 1 month minimum
Required for rank 2 (Community Member same as current) 1 month minimum 50 post (Edit Granted)
Required for rank 3 (Sr. Member) 2 month minimum (Edit Granted)
Required for rank 4 (Sr. Community Member) 2 month minimum 75 post
Required for rank 5 (Contributor) 4 month minimum
Required for rank 6 (Community Contributor) 4 month minimum 100 post ----New Icons Granted-----
Required for rank 7 (Veteran) 6 month minimum
Required for rank 8 (Community Veteran same as current) 6 month minimum 125 post
Required for rank 9 (Guide) 8 month minimum
Required for rank 10 (Community Guide) 8 month minimum 175 post
----New Icons Granted-----
Required for rank 11 (Elder same as current) 9 month minimum
Required for rank 12 (Community Elder same as current) 9 month minimum 250 post
Required for rank 13 (Advisor) 10 month minimum
Required for rank 14 (Community Advisor) 10 month minimum 300 post
----New Icons Granted-----
Required for rank 15 (Leader) 12 month minimum
Required for rank 16 (Community Leader same as current) 12 month minimum 325 post
Required for rank 17 (Advocate) 14 month minimum
Required for rank 18 (Community Advocate) 12 month minimum 2.7 star rating 350 post
Required for rank 19 SWG Crewman 16 month minimum (Officer insignia appears)
Required for rank 20 SWG Petty Officer 18 month minimum
Required for rank 21 (Pilot) 12 month minimum 3.0 average rating 400 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)
----New Icons Granted----- (planned)
Required for rank 22 SWG Chief Petty Officer 24 month minimum
Required for rank 23 SWG Ensign 28 month minimum
Required for rank 24 (Squadron Leader) 16 month minimum 3.1 average 425 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)
Required for rank 25 SWG Second Lieutenant 30 month minimum
----New Icons Granted----- (planned)
Required for rank 26 SWG Lieutenant 36 month minimum
Required for rank 27 (Wing Commander) 20 month minimum 3.2 average rating 450 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)
Required for rank 28 SWG Commander 40 month minimum
Required for rank 29 (Jedi) 24 month minimum 3.5 average rating 500 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)
----New Icons Granted----- (planned)
Required for rank 30 SWG Captain 48 month minimum
----New Icons Granted----- (planned)
Required for rank 31 (Master Jedi) 48 month minimum 4.0 average rating 1000 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)
----New Icons Granted----- (planned)
Required for rank 31 (Master Jedi) 48 month minimum 4.0 average rating 1000 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)
Questions I'm sure will be asked, and Answers.....
1. What If I just have my buddies go through and 5 star all my post wont that get me higher up pretty fast?
A: It may help in the short term but the more post ratings you have the less it has an effect on your ranking and will actually hurt you at the Higher post ratings. So the system naturally discourages this type of behavior.
2. What about one star bandits (eq: those that go through one starring every post)
A: Contrary to popular belief, these are 1. rare and 2. have very little effect on the rating or ranking systems. The only thing it hurts is the bandits wrist. It takes 20 1 star ratings to cause a post to be hidden by the default system. Additionally we are putting measures in to be able to track and even "title" these posters so everyone will know who they are. When we findsomeone who abuses the rating systemwe do lower their "rating" weight to prevent abuse.
3. Why are you doing this?
A: We want to encourage to post more responsibly and using the time/post count along with the rating system we can do this. We will also be granting icons, titles and even some privileges based on the new rankings.
4. Can I choose to stay at my current rank?
A: Sorry but the answer is no, if you qualify for a higher rank you will get it, unless you stop posting 
5. What privileges come with my current rank?
A: We will have this list as well as the associated privileges posted when we convert to the new system.
Message Edited by GarVa on 10-12-2004 10:19 AM
GarVa
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:24 am
#2
CharPrime wrote:
how many people have a 4.9 stars rate? most like nothing, never
now the star system do mean something because someone can grief your ranking away.
Your concern is answered above, and while its possible it is likely not to happen. Because 1. We can tell (and may make it so others can) when people are doing nothing but one starring others. and 2. It is a community thing and while At first some people will have the urge to do this it is something that over time, will even out. The more ratings you get the less each individual one will have.
This is also why we have made the 2 trees for the rankings, and they will both have similar privileges for both trees. You will still get those and lastly, yes we know that the last few star ranks will be hard to achieve and if they do become impossible we will make the necessary adjustments
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Noghrilover
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:37 am
#3
Yay! New abilities is definitely a good thing, as well as new avatars. Ok, I'll go for this idea...I'm still worried about the star ratings though.
Message Edited by Noghrilover on 08-19-2004 10:38 AM
Norlanthale
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:37 am
#4
when can we get the ability to post actual HTML sigs again? I know old t0fu messed it up for everyone.
also can we ever get the ability to post picture sigs like on the EQ forums? I have my account there and I have the ability to have a picture sig....why can't we here? I mean it is the same company...same forum.
Born2bgruv
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:38 am
#5
I'm curiousto find outwhat sort of privileges come with the higher ranks... /forceFlame? /forceBump?/forceWhaaaambulance? Guess we will just have to wait to find out...
GarVa
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:39 am
#6
The star system does work, and has been proven to work in other communities. It will take time for things to even out in a community that is already established (as I said above) but also as I said above, that is why the ranks will have similar privileges,so no one can "grief" you out of being to edit your post for example.Also remember this is just forum ranks it has nothing to do with ingame so will not effect your game play.
The "loop hole" for rating is being fixed, and as I also stated, we have a way to track (and soon getting a way to rank) people who one star obsessively. It is also a community thing so if the whole community is giving your post less importance that is the community, and that is what the stars are, a community tool. You can at any time choose to ignore the star rating system by going into your personal preferences and changing it. (you will still see the stars beside names/post but will not hide any post)
Aristarchus52
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:49 am
#7
Seems like I will lose rank because I don't post a lot? I have been here since the beginning. I like being able to edit my posts - oh well - brace yourself for about 200 completely worthless posts (as opposed to my usual standard of moderately worthless posts).
This is the first one -199 to go.
EDIT: Oh nice edit. Guess I can quit posting now *grin*
Message Edited by Aristarchus52 on 08-19-2004 12:16 PM
CommanderKendall
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:50 am
#8
It looks interesting, although forum ranking systems IMO are not all that important. But one question I had is that from what I've seenthese 'same as current' requirementsdon't appear to match up to the granted ranks in the current ranking scheme. Take myself for example 13 months, but only about 100 posts and the rank shows up as Community Veteran, where as according to this Community Veteran shouldn't show up until after 400 posts. Why the discrepancy?
GarVa wrote:
Normal Ranked:
Required for rank 1 (Community Member same as current) 1 month minimum 50 post
Required for rank 2 (Sr. Community Member) 3 month minimum 100 post
Required for rank 3 (Community Contributor) 3 month minimum 250 post
Required for rank 4 (Community Veteran same as current) 6 month minimum 400 post
Required for rank 5 (Community Guide) 6 month minimum 425 post
Required for rank 6 (Community Elder same as current) 9 month minimum 450 post
Required for rank 7 (Community Advisor) 9 month minimum2.75 starrating450 post
Required for rank 8 (Community Leader same as current) 9 month minimum 3.0 star rating 500 post
Required for rank 9 (Community Advocate) 12 month minimum 3.0 star rating 1000 post
Message Edited by GarVa on 08-19-2004 07:33 AM
JaykLogaan
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:51 am
#9
This actually sounds really cool. I'm a big fan of increasing player responsibility for what they say also Now if only there was a way to put some more Factionism into that arena.
Now if only there was a way to put some more Factionism into that arena.
GarVa
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:52 am
#10
One more time please read the whole first post (as I keep updating it)
The only thing someone could do by one starring you is basically change the color of your name and title, the privileges will be similar across the two ranking trees. Yes there will always be someone who is the gutter of a community and just like real life you plan what you can to counter them, but you do not base the whole system on them.
ITOAO
Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:04 am
#12
Sounds like a great idea. I like the idea of two trees. Why does it seem like this is turning into a debate about the star system. Garva has already addressed that several times. Can we move on?
Mattt
Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:05 am
#13
Barb-Wire wrote:damn ive spent 27 days on the forums and have "seen" 334,000 posts...ive got no life
I've spent a total of 12.6 days online....
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