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Thread: Publish 10.4 Feedback
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Tiggs
Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:41 pm
#1
Please post your "FEEDBACK" regardingthe most recent publish (10.4)in this thread. Please be constructive when posting and do not post about bugs (see the Publish 10.4 issue thread).
Thank you in advance 
*****Update Notes - Publish 10.4*****Disturbance in the Force
There has been a great disturbance in the force. An unknown power has surged through the galaxy in defense of the Jedi. The Empire's database of known Jedi has been inexplicably purged. All Bounty Terminals have gone blank. In response, the Empire has renewed all of its Bounty Hunter terminal contracts.
Given recent changes to Jedi, as a one time event:
- Jedi Visibility has been reset to zero.
- Jedi players with experience below (-1 Million) has been raised to (-1 Million)
Information:
Jedi players will gain visibility if the following actions are performed while players or NPCs are near:
- Equipping a lightsaber.
- Engaging in combat with a lightsaber.
- Using a force power.
Information:
Jedi visibility is reset to zero only when a bounty hunter that has a mission on a Jedi kills that Jedi. Visibility is not reset by random Jedi death.
Message Edited by Tiggs on 10-01-2004 09:49 PM
Holothuria
Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:24 am
#2
I don't play a jedi, but this just made me laugh so hard I started crying. You mess up the flags so that bounty hunters can kill the same poor, miserable bum over and over and then, to make it right, you bump him up to negative one-million x.p. Negative one-million. -1,000,000. So some poor schmuck who's done nothing but gotten killed since he got his jedi a month ago now only has to dig his way out of a 1,000,000 x.p. hole, doing 100 damage at a time with a training lightsaber. Everything he had on him has decayed to dust, he's become the laughing stock of his galaxy, but, lucky him, he gets to nickel-and-dime his way through 1,000,000 x.p. killing nunas and worrts and krevols if he's daring, all just to get back to zero. I can only assume that you're trying to alienate more of the player base here. Why not reset people's x.p. to the logical place, where it was before you messed up theb.h. system? And how about coming up with a logical x.p. minimum? Say--oh, I don't know--zero! Or even better, why not come up with a death penalty that makes a slight measure of sense from an r.p. standpoint? You could, maybe, reset their x.p. to what it was the last time they cloned instead of subtracting some arbitrary amount. Hell, do that for everyone. Anyway, I'm getting off track. -1,000,000. For those of you who don't quite understand what this means, get brawler and train up to about unarmed III. Now get 1,000,000 combat x.p. The difference, of course, is that the unarmed branch gives some defensive and speed bonuses, allows you to wear armor without reducing your damage and doesn't take months to get in the first place. I feel nothing but pity for the poor souls who are stuck doing this. Realistically, it's probably faster to start another character and grind through all the hoops to get a new jedi. Thanks for a good laugh, devs.
Oh yeah, sixth time: any word for people who didn't get credit for the holocron professions they mastered?
Jediforcefighter
Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:25 am
#3
kool, but there were some questions that weren't answered andsome questions that i wanted to ask.
Question:
1. Will visibility still be gained from wearing the jedi rode?
2. Will jedi gain visibility while doing these things around allies?
3. Will the visibilty time be lowered for non jedi knights, such as jedi initiate 3 days, padawan no skills 4 days all the way up to 3 weeks at knight?
4. Will jedi be able to lower their visibilty after killing the BH with the bounty on them?
5. I know you're tired of hearing this, but can we expect to see changes in the fsgrind to initiate?
6. If question4 was a yes, when can we expect changes?
7. Tiggs, will you have a beer with me? =)
Message Edited by Jediforcefighter on 10-02-2004 06:49 AM
Message Edited by Jediforcefighter on 10-02-2004 06:49 AM
aachil
Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:32 am
#4
Yay, I gain nine million exp. Of course I still have minus one million and need another 10.6 million to have a decent template (master LS). Seems pretty fair to me, I guess with these new rules I'd not have diped below about minus 200k or so, as I have avoided the terminals pretty well for six months.
Very much needed after the debarcle with BH missions being indefinatly repatable, costing arround 500k exp per kill (230 for a death, 200 for a clone and 200 extra if you were LD at the time) not to mention the previous griefing exploits of clone camping etc. which reduced many jedi to unplayable. Smart jedi just stoped playing (or hid in private houses), I tried for the negative exp cap and quickly found it at minus 10 million (handy info eh?).
Very much needed after the debarcle with BH missions being indefinatly repatable, costing arround 500k exp per kill (230 for a death, 200 for a clone and 200 extra if you were LD at the time) not to mention the previous griefing exploits of clone camping etc. which reduced many jedi to unplayable. Smart jedi just stoped playing (or hid in private houses), I tried for the negative exp cap and quickly found it at minus 10 million (handy info eh?).
Kurtisclip
Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:18 am
#6
Good changes, but you need to confirm if wearing a Jedi robe increases visability as well. If not, I'll just continue to wear my melee/stun clothes.
gera
Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:22 am
#7
Add Jedi Robe to visibility list too please...
Hence Jedi Robe was actually looking like Tatooinian farmer clothes, IN GAME, Jedi robe is an actual symbol of pointing someone as Jedi same with (even more than) lightsaber.
I'm a Jedi that does not like other Jedi showing off for sure...
LadyLeala
Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:51 am
#9
Tiggs... at the end of your post, you said that Jedi vis is reset ONLY when killed by a BH.
Does the 3 week rule still apply, also? So you can get it reset to 0 EITHER by being killed by a BH OR having 3 weeks go by without doing anything to increase it further?
(Very nice move, by the way... with the reset. This will really help us test out the system now, for any potential bugs. Or it will let us discover that there are none, in fact! 
)
)Message Edited by LadyLeala on 10-02-2004 08:52 AM
MeciniaLua
Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:57 am
#10
I don't think this was a good step.
I've been playing since May and I've seen a great number of Jedi flaunting their powers in public. This has dramatically increased since Publish 9. This really just gives them all a free pardon and encourages more of the same actions.
I understand that some were griefed, at the same time some of those using foul language or other actions goaded their griefers.
Can we see something done about the following exploits while we are fixing Jedi.
1) Jedi that log on and off frequently to avoid BH droids. These Jedi are exploiting a weakness in the code and should be banned from the game like any other exploiter. The best thing to do is have the code changed so that the BH droid reports the last known position of the Jedi ( In other words where they went LD )
2) Slicing of lightsabers. This is an exploit and was not intended to be able to be done. Any sliced lightsaber should immediately be removed from the game. Any future use of this exploit should result in the banning of the offending Jedi's account.
roganemor
Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:34 am
#11
Kurtisclip wrote:
Good changes, but you need to confirm if wearing a Jedi robe increases visability as well. If not, I'll just continue to wear my melee/stun clothes.
Forget the robe, the BE clothes do much, much more for you the 250 FP and +10 regen.
Kurtisclip
Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:47 am
#13
Apparently the visability purge is bugged, as two of my guildies logged on and within 15 min they were on the terms again. And they were not in Theed dueling, they were out in the desert of Tatooine doing the Hero Quest.
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