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Thread: Declaring overt

maui059
Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:22 am
#1

Not going to read all nine pages myself, so if it has been said already, I will second it or whatever. I think that we should have a visability meter like Jedi. We can declare overt at any time and our visability raises with the number of people who see us. After laying low for a while, and putting away out faction pets and armour, our visability will lower to the point where we can go covert again. I do not see why this action needs to be made at a recruiter anyway, it makes no logistical sense.



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Holocron
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:15 pm
#2

We're considering adding a command that lets you /declareOvert if you are within 50m of a recruiter or within an HQ.


Reason: spawn camping in the HQ battles is rather annoying.


Alternate solutions? Loopholes with the proposed solution?




-Raph Koster
Chief Creative Officer,
Sony Online Entertainment


Also, ex-Creative Director of SWG


Justinian_Agent
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:18 pm
#3

Sounds like a good idea. I for one am rather tired of being cut down by a huge group of people just standing around by the recruter. With such an option in place it would also add to the tactics that can be used by the defenders, alowing them to spread out (not too far, but far enough) near the recruter and lay traps for the attackers and what not.

MasterArchitect
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:19 pm
#4

I like the idea too, spawn camping really does get annoying in some places
Kona_Combine
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:20 pm
#5

How about allowing a higher ranking faction member too make some one Overt. Kind of like training. What I mean is, Colonel can make a Private - LT. Colonel Overt. Then you could do away with the group TEF.


Just an idea.




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Larathorn
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:23 pm
#6

After watching a battle in Tyrena where 5 Imps walked in and a horde of Rebel's ran out the back to declare and come back in and overrun the Imps, I think that something needs to be done. The big issue wasn't that the Rebels could declare, it was that the 5 Covert Imperials that were in the cantina couldn't do anything to help their Overt buddies.


My opinion, make it so you can declare Overt anywhere, anytime. To become Covert you have to go back to the recruiter and wait an hour. There is no reason that I should have to be within 50m to put on my uniform or flash my military ID and fight for my ideals.




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Physion
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:27 pm
#7

I believe this is an excellent idea! The fact that actually ranking up has no real positive effects for your character or rank (for that matter) this would actually give some incentive on ranking up instead of buying perks all the time. Also, I would like to address that at the same time, higher ranks get faction point discounts on requisition items. At some point, players can even purchase req'd items in the field from an officer? That may be hard to do, but just a thought. Then again, you could add the procedure--err....radial menu to the factioned player and when grouped, other faction members could use them just the same as a recruiter. Many possibilities. Not only could you /declare within 50m of a recruiter, but 50m of a ranking officer..


My 2 credits worth


Jodas Kast

wtds
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:28 pm
#8

Why should players need to be near a recruiter to go overt. Wouldnt it be more realistic if players could declare overt at will. Leavereturning to covert the way it is. Seems to me that this would add alot more unpredictability to the whole GCW.



ign Neefo
NoxDenosis
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:29 pm
#9

i have no problem with this but i guess if it is a problem for others it is a nice step in the right direction



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Holocron
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:30 pm
#10






Larathorn wrote:

My opinion, make it so you can declare Overt anywhere, anytime. To become Covert you have to go back to the recruiter and wait an hour. There is no reason that I should have to be within 50m to put on my uniform or flash my military ID and fight for my ideals.






That would let you move in armies of safe people to the location of a fight, and have them all go overt at once and ambush...



-Raph Koster
Chief Creative Officer,
Sony Online Entertainment


Also, ex-Creative Director of SWG


Kona_Combine
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:30 pm
#11

Just thought of a little problem, altho 50m isnt that much, but this would allow say a Melee/Bounty Hunter/Commandotoo stand right next too their target go Overt, and get the first strike in. This would be very bad for the Rifleman population, but I am biased since I am a Rifleman.


Actually thisthing would kind of be bad for rifleman, someone could go overt while running at us, and all of a sudden you got 1 or more people closing in on you attacking. And since our accuracy sucks on moving targets we would be better off throwing rocks at them.




Cona
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SinjenRandall
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:30 pm
#12

I like the idea of the /declare command, and I can't think of any problems with it. That would solve several problems with recruiter camping.


I LOVE the idea that a higher ranking player can be used to declare, though. What would be the problem with having an overt and high-ranking player act as a faction recruiter?It would give another reason to achieve rank, too.




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xpointmanx
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:32 pm
#13

My problems with Overt declarations wont be solved by that...


There are some planets where you cant declare.. and really.. with 30ish cities/outposts.. who knows where to find recruiters all the time? And you dont always want to travel overt.. because you end up killed in a starport before your screen loads.



Players of a factional rank should be allowed to /declare at will.. --if you must,.. you can give it a two min timer.. Still allow instant declarations through a recruiter.. and for petes sake.. please let us see when we have a Factional TEF activated...


Fighting in this game wont improve by just allowing me to be 50m from the recruiter to declare.. I need to be ableto do it when I want..




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