Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Force Ranking System Feedback...

TheTitanG
Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:49 pm
#105




I agree with nolan007


I tested this xp lost system by letting BH clone camp me and i keep loosing xp. currently my jedi xp stands at a wopping -10.02 mil xp. Seriously this is insane. Thats almost the amount of xp needed to master a tree !!!! Could we do something about this xp lost or is there a cap on it at all??


Ozzel_Intrepid
Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:03 pm
#106

well,


somehow its not much possible atm to get even the knight trials done, i spend all day at fort tusken and couldnt find any carnage champion


beside that bunch BHs and pikemen even are there and kill many tuskens lol


so cant test FRS





------------------------------------------------------
- SWG Beta Tester -
Caedet
Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:51 pm
#107






Ozzel_Intrepid wrote:

well,


somehow its not much possible atm to get even the knight trials done, i spend all day at fort tusken and couldnt find any carnage champion


beside that bunch BHs and pikemen even are there and kill many tuskens lol


so cant test FRS









Ummm. Thought they took the champions out and replaced them with 18 raiders?


Concerning the FRE... I was in theed and well I assisted with taking out no less than 50 Jedi's and BH's... only around 5 BH's. I died once and during that whole lot, I only gained 200 FRE. This to me definitely does not seem right. Most kills I did not receive anything and I only noticed one coming up saying that I gained 147 FRE.




A Kennygo Production
Master Weaponsmith
-5667 3420
Just outside of Theed, Naboo (Gorath) or
356 -5732
Just outside of Coronet
DarkJedi102
Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:52 pm
#108

The amount of xp granted for killing opposite side jedi is WAY too low. I pvp'd for about 5 hours in theed and got about 600 xp. Then i went and played around and promptly lost 200 points or so within 2 deaths or so. Just gaining force rank 1 is entirely too difficult.


I think frs xp should be about 10x what it is now at a minimum.


Since it takes about 5 jedi to take down another jedi it's very hard to get xp and most often just give up and runn off because they can't kill the other.


The whole voting system is extremely difficult to understand for the newly "knighted". The unbalance of way too many light jedi and very few dark also makes it difficult.


It would be nice to allow players to switch light and dark once a day just on tc2 to even the odds and have someone to actually pvp instead of 30 rebs standing around theed waiting for an imp to gank.


I'd love to get into the ranks to try and break them but i can't seem to get that far. hehe
Bryan1138
Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:00 pm
#109

Sounds interesting, however the one day to vote and accept sounds a little rushed. Living my entire life in the midwest, in the summer it is not uncommon to be without power or with storms so bad you don't want to turn on your computer for an entire day. This is but one example of real life issues that could keep a deserving jedi from attaining a rank. Maybe a three day window would better serve the voting and acceptencetimes and help out us non-power gamers without gas generators to play the game when the lights go out.



Bryan1138
aka Bryan'sa Fickset on Bria

WS resource fire sale at: 890, -4700 on Correlia 500 m east of Coronet, Bria server!
aka Bryanosk on Radiant

bade1911
Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:43 am
#110

I am a Jedi Knight on TC2 and when I loaded in I was in Coronet and immediately proceeded to starport and took out a dark jedi and recieved around 1500 FRP for the kill as I was not in a group. After that I proceeded to the enclaves where I grouped with about 8-10 other Light Ranked Jedi and we headed off to Theed. I did not die at all and I helped kill several jedi and BH's, but when it was all said and done I only gained around 200 FRP out of the 2 hours I was there.



~ Kaicesro ~

~ Force Ranked Jedi ~

~ (Co-Founder of NJO) ~


Seshemw
Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:53 am
#111



destrkta wrote:
BTW for those who have passed the knight trials have you tried working out the damage reduced by the robes, for a knight i believe we worked it out at 18%.
<



I'd like to see your numbers. I'm seeing no sign at all that the robes do ANYTHING (and dev comments were that robes had no numbers currently attached, so they could do the preliminary balancing before adding that factor). I've also seen quite a lot of commentary that indicates that the robes in higher ranks of FRS do nothing as well, so a rank 10 has just as much protection as a padawan (and, btw, all the robes beneath Rank 0 Knight are the same look, presumably the same effect after they put numbers on, but they're not knight robes. If you're seeing damage reduction at this point, I'd bet on saber toughness, or jedi toughness, or both).



--
Nivis Nix [TLC] - Rori
Master Sergeant - Imperial ground forces, detached
bade1911
Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:58 am
#112






Seshemw wrote:





destrkta wrote:


BTW for those who have passed the knight trials have you tried working out the damage reduced by the robes, for a knight i believe we worked it out at 18%.
<



I'd like to see your numbers. I'm seeing no sign at all that the robes do ANYTHING (and dev comments were that robes had no numbers currently attached, so they could do the preliminary balancing before adding that factor). I've also seen quite a lot of commentary that indicates that the robes in higher ranks of FRS do nothing as well, so a rank 10 has just as much protection as a padawan (and, btw, all the robes beneath Rank 0 Knight are the same look, presumably the same effect after they put numbers on, but they're not knight robes. If you're seeing damage reduction at this point, I'd bet on saber toughness, or jedi toughness, or both).





Correct the robes do not have modifiers added to them yet so i deal the same damage and take the same damage (jedi knight) as a jedi council member atm.



~ Kaicesro ~

~ Force Ranked Jedi ~

~ (Co-Founder of NJO) ~


RhodanX
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:16 am
#113

I'm not sure if this belongs here but the trials themselves to get to the FRS is pretty darn boring. I spent over 2 hours looking for a bluurg raptor on Endor and it was so boring/tedious. Its pretty unbareable...I have much better things to do with my time, even in game.
Everseeker
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:27 am
#114

OK, to comment, let me lay a simple framework: Let us say there are only 5 ranks... 1 to 5. 1 is the highest, 5 the lowest. If you do something "bad", you go down... Good, you can get voted to go up.


OK, I am #1. I do something bad.


I am demoted to #2... But there's already someone THERE... What happens to that person? do they get promoted to #1 "automaticly"?


What if #1 AND #2 are deadbeats? Does the guy in the #3 slot "Perculate" all the way to the top?


OK, another question: If I am sitting in seat #4 and Seat #3 becomes available, I can "Run" for this seat.


WHO ELSE can run? There's only 1 seat #4, I am IN it... What's this about voting for your choice? If you can "jump", could someone be voted into the top seat from anywhere?


And last of all, HOW would a seat 3 become vacant? If the guy in 3 was a dud, he'd be demoted to #4 (where I was) and I'd pop to #3 without the vote.


The only seat I can see getting "vacant"is #5. Say hewinds up in MBH Prison, loosing all his cookies, etc... he drops off the bottom, Freeing that slot (anyone can run for it)


If EVERYONE in the tree below a certin point (say #3, 4, and 5)suddenly becomes an idiot, there'd be a massive sucking sound as all fall 1 rank. #5 falls off the bottom, andthe slot in the middle (3)is open. But since the person in 4 just FELL... He is not going to be in the vote...


Something is missing... Need a better roadmap guys.

destrkta
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:35 am
#115

we were going by the numbers in the combat log of attacker / values over the top of the head.




Rand al'thor, the masterful Bounty Hunter
The hunter that is now hunted
Only BH to solo kill and hunt a Jedi Master(pre cu) on valcyn /bow quing'tut
StarchMonkey
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:43 am
#116






Jhaan-Kreii wrote:


This is partly to my template (master healer/master enhancer 4004 saber), as im spending more time healing myself to stay alive, than attacking other players. Also we do not earn any xp if we dont attack (so a healer will never get force ranking xp).



This is exactly the type of situation I was worried about. What happens to players who are not Master Defense/Master Lightsaber?? They are likely never going to advance in the FRS in the current set up.




-------------------------------------------------------
Joryn Sunnrae
Master Swordsman
Master Medic
-------------------------------------------------------
PuntaSur
Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:09 am
#117

I never could finish the Knight Trials. I made two detailed posts in the Knight Trials thread regarding the challenges to get past 2 quests and not make any progression. Let us know if you change something so we can finish the trials and start testing this FRS for you before June 22 is upon us.



PuntaSur - MBH/Ranger and Jedi of 2003
EMC2

Page 9 of 13