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Thread: Publish 10 Feedback, “The Jedi Trials”: Live Issues and Open Discussion

TK-132
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:00 pm
#105

I hope my suggestion is considered which is somewhere on the fourth page. I'm not here to whine like some people. I believe things need to be fixed such as the jedi population (way too many jedi in game, so it doesn't bother me that people have to wait to become a jedi) and many other things. I ask to those that whine, why do you still play if you don't like the game? Either cancel or stop playing, then come back or not, it's up to you. Quit if you don't like the game it's simple. Chances are you'll probably never regret it. Whining and trying to get everything you want doesn't work. State your problems and bugs and move on. Saying you hate the Devs doesn't help anybody, it just makes things worst. I know there are a lot of bugs in game and problems and they make me angry too, and I have been playing since August 2003. Just because you pay $15 a month doesn't mean you should get what ever you want. I think were luckly that they even allow us to become jedi in the game. If you really want to play a jedi that bad, get jedi KnightII: Jedi Outcast or KOTOR.



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Baleorg
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:00 pm
#106

iam sorry to just write down here right now (wont get read anyway i bet) but iam too lazy to check ALL pages atm, its just bitching anyway....

so i dont know if it has been reported or not:

iam a doc on farstar and my "speciality" is logn speedbuffing..
i am almost not able to constantly do iit anymore becuasesoem of the font seem to have changed.. iam covert imppierla and have huge trouble READING those other imperial names ,because of teh nature of "speed"buffign i have not enoguh time to /tar name ..
before pub10 it was no problem at all. jsut scroll out of view a bit and look "from above", have the ppl nicely being in a circle and i have no trouble finding each name in time.. now i cant see sh!t.. thankyou :-/

you really seem a bit worse than uo.. (well on uo i always expected a patchf or the patch before i did an alternative patch fro uo (www.xtrapas.de take a lok under patches you see)

well great work.. change back the font or make it editable.. bah





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cro-daddy
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:00 pm
#107






Drab wrote:
you know what would be a good fix, remove the gate, i would rather deal with 1fps then nothing at all, and im sure everyone would agree with me, and i know it will not even be that bad really





This is precisly the reason the post 9 pre 10 unlockers should nopt have to do anything else to get jedi. They should have just let those unlockers be grandfathered in using the last conversion. We should have all logged in, Made a NEW jedi character(not be forced to use main) and went about our business thus bypassing the village and creating 0 lag on the servers.
darthrotten
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:01 pm
#108






No-Ni wrote:





darthrotten wrote:





No-Ni wrote:





darthrotten wrote:

If you have a shred of respect left for your paying customers, REMOVE THE AURILLA GATE.

You promised us new Jedi content far all who could meet the FS requirement, but it turns out it's only new content for the grinders.

This is just not fair. How did you ever think that you could get away with this travesty? Remove the gate or face hundreds more cancelled accounts.







Sony, you're doing fine... Looks like this patch is a little rocky and I guess I don't get my jedi today but I can wait a few more days... heck, it's been over a month already since I unlocked.

Be strong and let Sony management know that for every whiner there are many more that understand the difficulty of managing live systems. For those people who believe that the gates should be removed, ignore them. They were never promised anything and keeping them out of the quest system initially is important to allow those who actually "unlocked" and those who put in the time grinding out professions. Those people were well aware of the system and how to get jedi long ago and chose not to follow that path... They just can't handle the result. Again, they'll get over it. If not, you can look forward to another big influx of revenue with JTL, you can afford to lose a few of the "louder" ones. And honestly, we'd all be better for it...






How dare you even imply that grinding leeches are more deserving than I, a veteran player who has contributed to this game as opposed to an AFK grinding spammer.


Yes I was promised. SOE said they were moving away from grinding, that the new system would be something else, another way. Yet the way they've set it up means that grinders will be the only ones in there for months! It will be over a year before the first non-grinder Jedi even appears if any of us feel like bothering! People like you disgust me, licking the developers boots and never making them face the problems they are causing.


You're what's wrong with this game.








I'm one of those grinders... 31 professions + 4 re-mastered, 104 badges, 35 million credits(earned), I've contributed to the game with my alt characters one being a doctor, the other being a merchant/architect. Whether you like it or not, I do deserve it more than you because I did what was required. I can see you don't really care about the fact that the requirements for making jedi have been there for a long time... and now you feel like they should just change for you... You're not just the problem with this game, you and your type of "entitlement" generation just hate reality. Life is going to be very tough for you because it's full of reality... The point in time you realize the world doesn't revolve around you is going to be very hard on you.

Good luck with your campaign...






You did what was required under the OLD SYSTEM, we were promised a NEW SYSTEM. Except we haven't got it. All we've got is new content designed to pander to YOU while the rest of us can go screw ourselves. Why? Just because I play the game with a template I liked?


Why should I be punished for that? Why should I have to wait 6 months? SOE's lack of content has made SWG very boring for me and many others, the FS quests were the last glimmer of hope for something new and fun, and SOE squashed it at the very last moment. The hell with that. You grinders already got your advantages with your free FS skills. That's the representation of your work right there. I was willing to do all the quests because I didn't grind. You don't see me crying out for free FS slots do you? No, because I did nothing to deserve them. What I DO deserve is an equal shot at the village, as a veteran gamer for whom the Force is supposedly within.

cro-daddy
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:02 pm
#109






Baleorg wrote:
iam sorry to just write down here right now (wont get read anyway i bet) but iam too lazy to check ALL pages atm, its just bitching anyway....

so i dont know if it has been reported or not:

iam a doc on farstar and my "speciality" is logn speedbuffing..
i am almost not able to constantly do iit anymore becuasesoem of the font seem to have changed.. iam covert imppierla and have huge trouble READING those other imperial names ,because of teh nature of "speed"buffign i have not enoguh time to /tar name ..
before pub10 it was no problem at all. jsut scroll out of view a bit and look "from above", have the ppl nicely being in a circle and i have no trouble finding each name in time.. now i cant see sh!t.. thankyou :-/

you really seem a bit worse than uo.. (well on uo i always expected a patchf or the patch before i did an alternative patch fro uo (www.xtrapas.de take a lok under patches you see)

well great work.. change back the font or make it editable.. bah



Mkae then stand in a single file line and not a circle, thus saving you time and effort.

Akaras
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:02 pm
#110

Nice job but please remove /findFriend or Create a Shoutbox for be anonyme !!
Dragven
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:02 pm
#111

Don't get me wrong man, I'm not trying to flatter the Dev's, I have my own personal grudges with the devs....but I truely feel they are doing the best they can...what I AM saying is....the problems might be legitimet but they are being expressed in a greedy unruly way, and as the trite saying goes "You catch more bees with honey...." just an opion, and yes im defeating my purpose by constantly responding, but eh....im no better then any of ya'll....



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darthrotten
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:02 pm
#112






TheOxygen wrote:

Can the whiney children please keep their posts to the other thread, where they will hopefully (and rightfully so) be ignored? Yes, this thread does say "Open Discussion", however, when there is an entire seperate thread relating to everyone's ill-founded complaints regarding the new Jedi System, there is no reason to double post complaints about that issue in *this* thread.






I can and I will post here, and you can't stop me. Do you see me trying to stop you whining about your harvestors?

Will the conformists in this thread PLEASE grow up and let people have their freedom of speech.
Rathagor
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:11 pm
#113







Personally I’m not impressed at all with the credit given to people who have unlocked between publish 9 and 10.


1.It was said that once publish 10 went live that anybody who unlocked between publish 9 and 10 there slot would become active. (http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=dev_archive&message.id=65704 - Last paragraph, first post)


In fact the slot is not active we have to do a bunch of stuff yet to get it active. Also the message given to you when you unlock states as follows “You begin to feel attuned with the powers of the Force. Your Force Sensitive abilities will be unlocked after Publish 10” Does this not say we’d be getting Force Sensative Abilities right away?


2.On the 24th of this month we found out we have to do the Intro, Exit and Padawan Trials to have our Jedi. (http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=27980 - first post)


I find this completely unacceptable why should the ones that have unlocked all of a sudden have to do a whole bunch of quests to get there Jedi, we are getting the same thing anybody that did 30+ professions gets, and that is not what was told to us. I think the credit given to the people who haven’t unlocked but have gotten 30+ professions is acceptable and it was said they would get credit and they are.


3.Now today, us who have unlocked have to wait yet some more before we can even get in the damn village to start getting a free branches. (http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_live&message.id=22192 - first post)


This is basically saying that anybody who did say 20-25 professions and unlocked have to wait possibly weeks before they can go into the village. This is unacceptable.


For me who unlocked 2-3 days after publish 9 on my 24th profession, all this waiting is getting irritating and I doubt If I will continue playing if I do not get what was said I would get soon. I could end up waiting another few weeks before my group is able to get a visit from the old man. As far as I’m concerned those who have unlocked once publish 10 went live should have been able to create there Jedi using there second slot and it would be done.





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mrWattz
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:16 pm
#114

the worst part of this waiting for some old man, is not knowing you had to wait for him, after you unlocked after publish 9. I may be wrong but i was just under the impression those of us who unlocked after the pub 9 would not have to do more quests to unlock. And now that you have to wait and not know when your turn is, you kind of wonder who is more privalged then you are to get chosen. Im sure a fairly good amount of people unlocked there jedis after pub 9, so i would just like to know how do you pick? pull a name out of a hat? those who unlocked first get to go first?


my freind has only like 10 proffesions and and maybe half the poi's, no vettes, no unlock message and got a hes Glowing message. that was never expected.

i hope you dont pick by whos complained the least or wrote out less tickets, cuz then im beat



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zues19g
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:16 pm
#115

my 15$ a month+glowing status=NO OLD MAN why is this DEVS. this is eventually going to be
0 subcriptions+SOE office expense=your out of a JOB good way of thinking for the future
snipaho
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:18 pm
#116

Publish 10 feedback?



1. You broke the maps and its listings.

2. Some docs can't heal themselves anymore.

3. Some dude just drove by on a swoop that was pointing straight up in the air.

4. The gate you stealth implemented probably broke the Old Man and no one will see him, ever.




GREAT JOB!




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darthrotten
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:22 pm
#117

The more I think about it, the more just giving grinders their Jedi makes sense.

I mean Jesus, the new system should be for those of us who wanted Jedi but didn't want to grind and wanted a new system.

In the end it screws both our groups (though mine even more since people like me get NOTHING, nada, zip, zero)
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