Development Cycle Archive
Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort
Abracus
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:09 pm
#989
Ahhh I think I finally feel at home in SWG.
It's almost like I never left the other MMORPGs I played... but seriously have none of you ever played an MMORPG before? The first rule of MMORPGs is "Do NOT play on patch day". It's a given that the devs will screw something up, requiring hotfixes, downtime, etc. Also, I think some of these dev handles I've seen flying around are former UO gimps, so you know they're extra good at making publishes work right....
So it takes a few days to get to the village, oh well, cut the grass, go see a movie, go get piss drunk and sleep for 2 days. If you unlocked, you're gonna get your visit, your slot, and your FS skills, why does it matter if it's "right now **edit**" or in a few days time when they've balanced the load on the dath subserver?
And yes, I am also waiting for the old man to turn up and give me my slot, I guess I'm just glad I can actually PLAY on patch day, even if I can't use 100% of the new content right this second.
Baracus
Chilastra
It's almost like I never left the other MMORPGs I played... but seriously have none of you ever played an MMORPG before? The first rule of MMORPGs is "Do NOT play on patch day". It's a given that the devs will screw something up, requiring hotfixes, downtime, etc. Also, I think some of these dev handles I've seen flying around are former UO gimps, so you know they're extra good at making publishes work right....
So it takes a few days to get to the village, oh well, cut the grass, go see a movie, go get piss drunk and sleep for 2 days. If you unlocked, you're gonna get your visit, your slot, and your FS skills, why does it matter if it's "right now **edit**" or in a few days time when they've balanced the load on the dath subserver?
And yes, I am also waiting for the old man to turn up and give me my slot, I guess I'm just glad I can actually PLAY on patch day, even if I can't use 100% of the new content right this second.
Baracus
Chilastra
nukuma
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:10 pm
#990
I UNLOCKED POST PUB 9 AND PRE PUB 10, BY MASTERING 31 PROF'S AND SOME MORE THEN ONCE. I EXPECTED TO LOG IN TODAY, GO THE THE NEW VILLAGE AND BE ABLE TO START PLAYING MY JEDI, BUT NO, I HAVE TO SIT AROUND FOR DAYS STARING AT MY SCREEN UNTIL SOME OLD MAN COMES AND VISITS ME! WHAT THE f IS THAT CRAP. SONY HAS LIED CONSTANTLY , AS WELL AS NOT FULFILLING THERE END OF THE DEAL IN THIS GAME. IF ANYONE WHO IS A LAWYER OUT THERE READS THIS HOW ABOUT FILING A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST SONY TO GET US OUR MONEY BACK AND MAYBE GET US DAMAGES FOR MENTAL DURRESS.
Jaida-Chilastra
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:11 pm
#991
Abracus wrote:
Ahhh I think I finally feel at home in SWG.
It's almost like I never left the other MMORPGs I played... but seriously have none of you ever played an MMORPG before? The first rule of MMORPGs is "Do NOT play on patch day". It's a given that the devs will screw something up, requiring hotfixes, downtime, etc. Also, I think some of these dev handles I've seen flying around are former UO gimps, so you know they're extra good at making publishes work right....
So it takes a few days to get to the village, oh well, cut the grass, go see a movie, go get piss drunk and sleep for 2 days. If you unlocked, you're gonna get your visit, your slot, and your FS skills, why does it matter if it's "right now **edit**" or in a few days time when they've balanced the load on the dath subserver?
And yes, I am also waiting for the old man to turn up and give me my slot, I guess I'm just glad I can actually PLAY on patch day, even if I can't use 100% of the new content right this second.
Baracus
Chilastra
Yea..but this is how they wanted it...thats what has us angry.
Jaida-Chilastra
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:12 pm
#992
nukuma wrote:
I UNLOCKED POST PUB 9 AND PRE PUB 10, BY MASTERING 31 PROF'S AND SOME MORE THEN ONCE. I EXPECTED TO LOG IN TODAY, GO THE THE NEW VILLAGE AND BE ABLE TO START PLAYING MY JEDI, BUT NO, I HAVE TO SIT AROUND FOR DAYS STARING AT MY SCREEN UNTIL SOME OLD MAN COMES AND VISITS ME! WHAT THE f IS THAT CRAP. SONY HAS LIED CONSTANTLY , AS WELL AS NOT FULFILLING THERE END OF THE DEAL IN THIS GAME. IF ANYONE WHO IS A LAWYER OUT THERE READS THIS HOW ABOUT FILING A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST SONY TO GET US OUR MONEY BACK AND MAYBE GET US DAMAGES FOR MENTAL DURRESS.
Watch this post disappear, like david copperfield.
Luree
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:13 pm
#993
Ok, So my question is is there a limit on the time that these grinders have to complete before we "class 4's" even have a chance? I am P/Oed yes but i just want awnsers I want to know if the people that
A. are not online
B. are milking this to make the wait longer for us
If the smaller communitys can get this moved ahead a little. as we probably dont Have as many people who have unlocked and probably do not have "glowy" status and therefor less lagg.
If these people are not online for a couple days then they get skipped or they can come in the next day or are they going to hold us up for months?
A. are not online
B. are milking this to make the wait longer for us
If the smaller communitys can get this moved ahead a little. as we probably dont Have as many people who have unlocked and probably do not have "glowy" status and therefor less lagg.
If these people are not online for a couple days then they get skipped or they can come in the next day or are they going to hold us up for months?
KIDDAtwood
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:13 pm
#994
well then what does it need to say for it to warrent a visit?
Trunnks Lawful
Master Sergant Imperial Navy
Kuari server
Luree
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:15 pm
#995
Ok, So my question is is there a limit on the time that these grinders have to complete before we "class 4's" even have a chance? I am P/Oed yes but i just want awnsers I want to know if the people that
A. are not online
B. are milking this to make the wait longer for us
If the smaller communitys can get this moved ahead a little. as we probably dont Have as many people who have unlocked and probably do not have "glowy" status and therefor less lagg.
If these people are not online for a couple days then they get skipped or they can come in the next day or are they going to hold us up for months? also i was wondering if there was a system message that said something like "you sense a disturbance in the force"?
A. are not online
B. are milking this to make the wait longer for us
If the smaller communitys can get this moved ahead a little. as we probably dont Have as many people who have unlocked and probably do not have "glowy" status and therefor less lagg.
If these people are not online for a couple days then they get skipped or they can come in the next day or are they going to hold us up for months? also i was wondering if there was a system message that said something like "you sense a disturbance in the force"?
DarKstar5891
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:17 pm
#996
Damn, over 40 pages of mostly "hate messages". Congrats devs, this is the most amount of furious gamers i have ever seen 
. I myself am very disappointed but not enough so to leave the game.IMO a group of ravenous monkeys could have thought up a better and more entertaining system to become jedi.....
just my two cents
. I myself am very disappointed but not enough so to leave the game.IMO a group of ravenous monkeys could have thought up a better and more entertaining system to become jedi.....just my two cents
CranialTyrant
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:18 pm
#997
OMG!!! PEOPLE STOP!!
I'll be the first to admit SOE has made some mistakes in this game. And yes they have lied to us. And I'm just as pissed as the next guy but come on!! People keep yelling at the Devs and cursing SOE and some of the blame lies there. But alot of the blame lies with us as well. What do you expect them to do when we're all yelling and saying this game is terrible. They want us to be happy, they don't want us to quit. Some of them because of the money we're giving them, but some (like the Devs) really don't want us to go because they want us to enjoy their game. The game is what we make it, if we power level, and exploit then the Devs will have to change the game to stop that. If we yell at how something sucks they'll try and change it. This is what they're here to do, but they can't make it great if we don't let them. We need toplay the game the way they intend, and THEN make suggestions. Now I know I will get flamed for this, but don't please. This is more in response to the state of the game rather that Pub 10 in particular. For those of you who grinded hardcore and feel that you got shafted, I am sorry. And some of you did. To those of you who didn't grind (like myself, I only did two Holo's), and waited for this system, you have no right to complain about being last. But my point is more in general. We need to stop blaming the Devs and look at ourselves. How do WE react, how do WE play. This is a GAME. We are meant to enjoy the game as a whole, not just Jedi, or making credits, it should be the whole experience. They can't center the game around one group or another all they can do is try and make it best for eveyone. This game will only get better! People compare it to EQ and others, but how long has EQ been around!!! I bet if you could read forums from when EQ came out they would be the same. You have to give it time. A year is not a long time. And this game will only get better if we make it. Threating to cancel only encourages the problem. They will scramble to appease those who threaten instead of focusing on the core game. Those who think we have no effect on what happens in the game, you're wrong. What we do on these forums, and in the game will always effect it, just not the way you think. If you are truly unable to enjoy this game then leave, thats whats best for you, its your money and you should spend it on something that makes you happy 
But for me I want to stay and enjoy the good parts, and there are many if you look instead of grinding, and help make the bad parts better or go away. Im sure I'll get flamed, even though I don't wish to hurt anyone with this. Or worse no one will read it, or those who do won't care. But I had to say my peace for me and for those who feel the same way. As for us, we'll keep playing, laughing, and struggling and some day this game will live to its potential. Sorry for rabbling.
But for me I want to stay and enjoy the good parts, and there are many if you look instead of grinding, and help make the bad parts better or go away. Im sure I'll get flamed, even though I don't wish to hurt anyone with this. Or worse no one will read it, or those who do won't care. But I had to say my peace for me and for those who feel the same way. As for us, we'll keep playing, laughing, and struggling and some day this game will live to its potential. Sorry for rabbling.
Sahaqiel
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:19 pm
#998
Thunderheart wrote:
The old man will visit you when you have completed the requirements of the new path to becoming a Jedi.While this new path is still a secret, it is no where near as daunting as the holo-professions method.We have made additional provisions for those that worked partially through the old system.Here is how you will be allocated a visit based on the old system:
You will be granted access to the village…
Automatically qualify
Group 1
Group 2
Group 3
Group 4
I'm still no clear regarding this. The post states that old man visitsyouif you qualify to go to the village.Now how does this really work? Does that mean that if we are all glowy we will get a visit from the old man regardless of which grp we are in? Or does this mean that you have to wait for your turn regardless of whether you are glowy or not simply because of the grp you currently belong in? And is the chart above used to describe people who have at least used the holocron once and master the professions stated by the holocrons? If yes what about people who have recently only started the game, where would they stand then?
I'm still confused about this new system, perhaps someone or TH can answer, or better yet compile an FAQ since alot of people seems confused too.
Epak
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:19 pm
#999
Wait a minute? The day finally arrives and I can't even go in the village and start even though I "have an INNER GLOW"?
THE IDEA OF "GROUPS" IS HORRIBLE
REMOVE THE "GROUPS" ASAP
Its about managing expectations. If you guys know about these things in advance just post it here. People are going to freak out at these forums either way you communicate, but it still seems rationale to communicate to the customer.
I feel like I've been waiting for months. Then the expectation is set that the wait is over.. but it is not over.
FormlessOne
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:20 pm
#1000
nooblinger wrote:
Great! This explains why there are no Pre-9 unlockers (to my knowledge) with an inner glow. I commend you on making it fair, the people who did the most work should get the first crack at it.
Although I wish you would clarify whether existing jedi will be in the last group because they are just doing the quests for rewards or fun. Which is the way it should be.
I'm "glowy", yet I didn't unlock pre-Publish 9. I completed a dozen professions, have well over 75 badges, and have been playing for over a year. I've been sitting/standing 3K from Dathomir Science Outpost for over an hour now.
Just what in the hell is going on, really? Is this a game or a social experiment in mass frustration?
Luree
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:20 pm
#1001
Ok, So my question is is there a limit on the time that these grinders have to complete before we "class 4's" even have a chance? I am P/Oed yes but i just want awnsers I want to know if the people that
A. are not online
B. are milking this to make the wait longer for us
If the smaller communitys can get this moved ahead a little. as we probably dont Have as many people who have unlocked and probably do not have "glowy" status and therefor less lagg.
If these people are not online for a couple days then they get skipped or they can come in the next day or are they going to hold us up for months? also i was wondering if there was a system message that said something like "you sense a disturbance in the force" when the old man comes?
A. are not online
B. are milking this to make the wait longer for us
If the smaller communitys can get this moved ahead a little. as we probably dont Have as many people who have unlocked and probably do not have "glowy" status and therefor less lagg.
If these people are not online for a couple days then they get skipped or they can come in the next day or are they going to hold us up for months? also i was wondering if there was a system message that said something like "you sense a disturbance in the force" when the old man comes?