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Thread: AT-ST changes on Test Center

XanEldarie
Sat Jan 03, 2004 1:47 am
#872






Jaxia wrote:

Yatta yatta yatta...And then...Losing on every galaxy... And to this response directly "if people are wanting to ambush you, A. don't have your AT-ST out, and B. there are no game mechanics governing an 'ambush,' and therefore its left to the wits and willpower of those afflicted."A. So you're saying we shoulduseour faction onthem but not use them? Ever heard of mission ambushing? And you do NOT know if they're going to ambush you, you have 64m to (even tho the radar goes to 1024m) figure it out) B. You're forgetting there's a 'pilot' in the AT-ST, therefore it does have reasoning, as it does what it's told not what it 'deems reasonable'.


I'm not saying they should be allowed to be used to farm Holocrons, or any other Rare drops for that matter. I'm not saying I want to use 3 AT-STs. But the work and time I put into getting it should be WORTH it. Especially, when we are so outnumbered as Imperials.






An "ambush" is supposed to be unexpected. If you enemy is smart enough to suprise you, they deserve to win. And just because we outnumber you, doesn't mean you deserve any special treatment. There are newbies every day looking to join a group. Show them how great Imperials are (laf), and I'm sure they will follow you. Oh? What did you say? They don't like rapists, terrorists, and tyrants? Oh, I'm sorry. Guess we get another one!



Its just a bad call; hah it's so funny how you think I'm so serious. Oh, but that's not it. The thing is, I dont give enough jack to give a *edit*. You're just plain boring, and you bore me asleep. But it's classical, anyways. How cool are you? I remember; and I feel sickened.
- Deftones, "Lotion"
ssublime42
Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:24 am
#873

I think one way to get the devs attention would be for all Imps to just stop participating in the GCW. As it stands, theres really no reason for us to even bother. When you have a server like mine (Corbantis) that is overridden with rebels, theres just no balance to the game. The cold hard fact is that there will never be a near even ratio of rebels to imps. People want to be on the side that wins, and it just doesnt help when theres these movies that show that the rebellion wins, not to mention most people dont want to be on the evil side of things. How fun will it be when most everyone goes rebel? Who will there be to fight anymore? If you go to my server you will see that most of the time imperials get beat down because of the sheer number of rebels to imps, now we dont dare use our AT-STs in PVP because its just not worth the faction points to lose it in 10 seconds to a commando. Rebels on my server wander around overt in theed, go to the imperial base on talus and kill off every NPC and overt player for fun, when you could take over faction bases, well, they took them all over. They even hang around the Emperors retreat easily killing off the NPCs and newbie overt players. Until people realized the bug in resetting base timers, almost all imperial detachment HQs were destroyed, including our own. It was a nice sight to see when 30+ Rebels showed up on our doorstep to crush all 5 of us, as it was 1AM and nobody else was on. I dont harbor any ill feelings towards them, infact i made a friend that day with one of em. But the cold hard fact is that this game is completely backwards to how the time period of the Star Wars universe should be. Rebels point out that there is no equal faction pet to the AT-ST on their side, but you also forget to point out that the Empire is quite powerful, very wealth, and can pretty much take what it wants. The rebellion doesnt have the resources that the empire does, but what the rebellion does have is numbers. Believe me, the rebels on my server are tough, i know a lot of em, and in the past month they have become so organizedthat if it were more balanced it would becool, but with our small number of imperials, we just cant keep up.


Basically what im saying, is that if everyone goes Rebel, whos there to fight anymore?




- Colonel MastaShake 'S'yn of Interplanetary Traffic Safety Squad and Patrol
Hesp
Sat Jan 03, 2004 1:35 pm
#874

A few personal notes on this change.


AT-ST's are fairly powerfull and I have spent many a day on my back because of one during PvP. I will admit that in PvP i am fairly pathetic. This keeps them far more powerfull than the Rebel pets and rebels cannot have 3 any more. So let us add to the fact that rebel's now have 1/3 the power Imperials have if the imperial does not have a Dark trooper or AT-ST.
In factional PvE the AT-ST is still king however and you should have no problem mowing through that poor happless rebel base.


I do agree with the comment that CH's should not be responsible for factional pets. However, Squad leaders who have skills that dont seem to work but are Very draining, could use the ability to have multiple factional pets out.


AT-ST's would also make great vehicles instead of pets.. vehicles with guns i might add.


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XanEldarie
Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:16 pm
#875






ssublime42 wrote:

I think one way to get the devs attention would be for all Imps to just stop participating in the GCW. As it stands, theres really no reason for us to even bother. When you have a server like mine (Corbantis) that is overridden with rebels, theres just no balance to the game. The cold hard fact is that there will never be a near even ratio of rebels to imps. People want to be on the side that wins, and it just doesnt help when theres these movies that show that the rebellion wins, not to mention most people dont want to be on the evil side of things. How fun will it be when most everyone goes rebel? Who will there be to fight anymore? If you go to my server you will see that most of the time imperials get beat down because of the sheer number of rebels to imps, now we dont dare use our AT-STs in PVP because its just not worth the faction points to lose it in 10 seconds to a commando. Rebels on my server wander around overt in theed, go to the imperial base on talus and kill off every NPC and overt player for fun, when you could take over faction bases, well, they took them all over. They even hang around the Emperors retreat easily killing off the NPCs and newbie overt players. Until people realized the bug in resetting base timers, almost all imperial detachment HQs were destroyed, including our own. It was a nice sight to see when 30+ Rebels showed up on our doorstep to crush all 5 of us, as it was 1AM and nobody else was on. I dont harbor any ill feelings towards them, infact i made a friend that day with one of em. But the cold hard fact is that this game is completely backwards to how the time period of the Star Wars universe should be. Rebels point out that there is no equal faction pet to the AT-ST on their side, but you also forget to point out that the Empire is quite powerful, very wealth, and can pretty much take what it wants. The rebellion doesnt have the resources that the empire does, but what the rebellion does have is numbers. Believe me, the rebels on my server are tough, i know a lot of em, and in the past month they have become so organizedthat if it were more balanced it would becool, but with our small number of imperials, we just cant keep up.


Basically what im saying, is that if everyone goes Rebel, whos there to fight anymore?







You are correct, and you will stay correct so long as people keep thinking within the box that is the movies that which this game was based upon. Until people start asking, "what if," Imperials may never see victory; simply due to the fact that Imperials, when associated with the movies, aren't destined to win.


Don't choose not to be an Imperial because you see them loose in the movies. Don't choose to be a Rebel because you see them win. Choose a side based on what you define as 'fun,' play it to the best of your ability and imagination, and who knows? You may just rewrite Star Wars history.


Its your chance to make Imperials the "underdogs" of the galaxy!




Its just a bad call; hah it's so funny how you think I'm so serious. Oh, but that's not it. The thing is, I dont give enough jack to give a *edit*. You're just plain boring, and you bore me asleep. But it's classical, anyways. How cool are you? I remember; and I feel sickened.
- Deftones, "Lotion"
XanEldarie
Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:20 pm
#876

The winning underdogs...


well, you know what I mean =)




Its just a bad call; hah it's so funny how you think I'm so serious. Oh, but that's not it. The thing is, I dont give enough jack to give a *edit*. You're just plain boring, and you bore me asleep. But it's classical, anyways. How cool are you? I remember; and I feel sickened.
- Deftones, "Lotion"
ssublime42
Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:57 am
#877

Whats funny is the reason i went Imp is just cause Vader kicks so much ass, too bad hes a whiny brat in Ep. 2



- Colonel MastaShake 'S'yn of Interplanetary Traffic Safety Squad and Patrol
HotRodDodge
Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:11 am
#878

I think you guys (devs and csr's) are RETARDED! I mean , **edit**????? so what the Imps have At-st's ,the Rebels have CSR's. I say , if you nerf the atst, nerf the CSR! or hey, if ya gonna pretty much kill the atst, at least make the available to both sides for like 900 faction points. What? we both cant have at-st's cause it wasnt like that in the movies, screw the movies! you Nerfed up the game so much, it couldnt even be close to the movies. C'mon guys! pull your great big fat heads out of your asses, and give them a great big shake.


Hava Nice Day!

MasterMofo
Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:24 am
#879

Well I tested it... the DEVS said they wanted this to be a PvP pet, so i wanted to see what would happen, TWICE. The first test consisted of a group of about 6 overt rebels in theed. I noticed some TKA, CH, a couple of commandos. I managed to pull it out and release it on them. I got incapped in about 2 seconds and my AT ST lasted exactly 22 seconds on that party. The second AT ST i used was on a CH/Commando and a TKA. Stuck a grual on it, i managed to get the TKA, but he just flamed it and then POOF... there goes 14k faction for me (Twi'lek). You can make all the arguements you want, "Flame should kill them" "It shouldn't!" whatever. But the point being they're not feared, rather they are hunted for braging rights. I see commandos with lists of AT STs they've killed. That doesn't seem like Star Wars to me. The rebels not being affraid of anything and outnumbering the Imperials 10/1. The main purpose for the changes that the devs wanted was PvP combat. Which has been proved to me to be utterly worthless.



Colonel Hapa'Ono Mofo

Kaandar, Naboo; Naritus


You don't truely know something untill you see it from every perspective, when that happens you will have the definitive view and a complete understanding of which you wish to see.
Jokuzui
Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:43 am
#880

FACTION PETS SHOULD IN NO WAY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CH PETS. 3 PETS IS 3 PETS, NOT 3 PEOPLE AT YOUR SIDE! IF YOU WANT 3 PETS DO CH, IF YOU WANT 3 TROOPS DO FACTION MISSIONS. Don't compare these, they are not the same. I don't care if they run on the same system its not the same. I agree with 1 at-st for balance, but don't compare it to creature handler and do it for reasons 'it makes CH more unique'

Preditorian
Sun Jan 04, 2004 7:37 am
#881

mmmmm......


(taps Jokuzui on the shoulder)


this post is almost 6months old........



preditor



Preditorian
Sun Jan 04, 2004 7:41 am
#882

still a issue



Killahzz
Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:37 am
#883

hmm....too un -star wars like...change IT, CHANGE IT!!! or else your cash cow will die and wilt like a dead flower...im glad im a rebel tho, BUT, why cant us rebels at least get those tank-like vehicles you see in Star Wars Galactic Battle Grounds: Clone Campaigns!?!?!? it would make it more fun...ALSO, make AT-ST's driveable!!! it would be cool, and for the high-ranking officers, ALLOW THEM TO PUT OUT MORE SOLDIERS AND STORMIES....I WANT RESISTANCE, NOT A GUERILLA WAR WHERE THE REBELS ARE BETTER THEN THE IMPERIALS AND THE IMPS HAVE TO USE GUERILLA TACTICS, IT SHOULD BE THE OPPOSITE WAY AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOPxPhophet
Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:00 pm
#884

YOU KNOW WHAT THUNDERHEART THIS WAS AND IS THE WORST CHANGE YOU HAVE MADE TO DATE!!! LIMIT ME AN IMPERIAL TO ONE PET? ONE AT-ST? AFTER I SPENT 5 MONTHS TO GET MY 3 AT? IM GLAD I CANCELLED MY ACCOUNT BECAUSE OF THIS ,BECAUSE THERE IS NO DAM WAY IM GOING TO WASTE MY TIME PLAYING TO HAVE YOU IDIOTS DOWN THERE TAKE IT AWAY.YOU ARE SO RETARDED DOING THIS TO ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO DETICATED THEMSELVES TO THE IMPERIAL CAUSE. THE REBALS ALREADY OUTNUMBER US AND YOU ALSO GIVE CH MORE POWER LETTING THEM HAVE THREE PETS, TO ME THIS IS BULL**edit** AND FAVORITISM.I SAY FIX THE DAM GAME AND QUIT RUINING THE FUN FOR ALL PLAYERS!!!!

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