Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force
Riah1
Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:14 am
#846
You know….
I am getting a little sick of people complaining about the Jedi “brandishing” Robes and sabers. Dude we were there the whole time… the only difference is now we ware pajamas, no-one ever noticed the saber… lol, don’t get mad that the Jedi are playing a CHARACTER in a GAME. You people make it seem like there is a 1:1 ratio of Jedi to regular players, which it is not…. There are about 400 players to 1 Jedi. There are a lot of Jedi coming out of the woodwork now because the system is better and yeah we are dueling in the starports…. THE SYSTEM IS NEW. It was the same way for every prof in the beginning.
As for the people who are ridiculing those who actually took the time and grinded out 32 prof, FΩck you! I have 3 char, which I still have to support through running mission and selling $hit. Oh yeah… and all of you non-Jedi fools out there selling pearls and crystal at a rate only an armorsmith can afford…. I mean get real. The only ones that are complaining about the state of Jedi are non-Jedi! You don’t want it because you cant have it…. We the Jedi have our complaints, but like big boys and girls we are dealing with it and moving on. You don’t hear us crying on every forum about how CM’s are overpowered. How TKM should be completely rethought. We have just accepted the reality that this is a FΩCKING GAME and if you want to be a good player you have to play (a lot).
Everyone want to now complain about the Jedi, and how the system is so unbalanced… What about CM? What about Fencer? Dude do you fools realize that a good stun baton is more powerful than a lightsaber? Our heals are crap! (this is where all of you Jedi haters out there take note) It is a sad day for everyone when a freaking master brawler can kill a Jedi Knight…. Or a CM with a CDEF. You want to talk about getting NERF’ed.
Yeah the only chance that we have is to carry our sabers and ware our robes…. With out them if we get attacked we are screwed. We loose the only armor (although it is a “hidden” amount of protection) and def (block) we have…. Oh, and to top all of this off you non original Fencer/TKM/CM fools… check out your cantina… bet they are smaller. We are the doc’s and the entertainers out there we have to get additional accounts to BUFF so we can fight a pistoleer….. You say we are taking away your dream, and I am here to tell you your dream is a flop. You think the game is all about entertainers, image designers, or fencers… I hate to tell you this is a galactic civil war and the Jedi are on the main stage… we are not going anywere and the DEV’s are done nerfing us.. and you non-Jedi are next. I can’t wait to see all of those dot lances and mad craze poisons go poof (100 a tic) just like they did to commando. I to make it better I cant wait to hear the same people cry.
If you want to quit, fine. If you want to try and sell your SW memorabilia cool. If you have a problem with what I am saying, great go overt
RIAH (BE/Rifleman)
Soirfa (Architect/Master Dancer)
Alice-Blood (Dark Jedi)
Soirfa (Architect/Master Dancer)
Alice-Blood (Dark Jedi)
Lowca PVP – Put-Up or Shut-Up
OlisJ
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:21 am
#847
I'm writing this because I'm mad about item disappearance in vendors. I keep getting messages like this: "Because you failed to pick it up in time, the "4.2 409/749 ADV Light Lightning Cannon" that you were auctioning has expired.". I DID NOT get a message about unsuccessful sale and items DID NOT go to storage for 7 days. I counted every day for this particular item which I lost today it was 29 days and 23 hours and some minutes when I placed it for sale. I check my vendors twice a day for items in storage, nothing there so far as nothing at bazaar at all. I wrote a ticket to CSR team about this issue and got very unhelpful answer. I think this is a BUG made in publish 9 (was OK before) which ruins my game play. I’m happy about Jedi’s roaming around, I’m happy about LS damage type, I’m happy about overcrowded coronet (I get no lag there at all), I’m even happy about useless junk kits. But a tasty cake with a piece of **edit** on it is not edible at all. Please, take full attention to this issue. It ruins not only my game play but I know other players getting same problems.
OlisJ
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:29 am
#848
PS If you want to make better do so, but not break what is good without improvement.
OlisJ
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:36 am
#849
I ram a merchant, and since the patch I have received 6 emails so far saying that because I failed to pick something up the auction has expired. The problem is that they were not items from the stockroom, but items that were on sale, and they poofed. They never went to the stockroom, just got deleted after 30 days, and I got that mail.
I've only got those emails from the items listed on one vendor so far, out of 6. I keep receiving the normal unsuccesful auction emails on the other 5 vendors, but everytime an item expires from vendor 6, it poofs.
I don't get mails about unsuccesfull auction at all istead of that all items go poof after 30 days. This is the most serious issue in my opinnion. It needs full attention ASAP. Stopp bugging about other minor problems about and fix this one.
SioBabble
Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:17 am
#850
Riah1 wrote:
You know….
I am getting a little sick of people complaining about the Jedi “brandishing” Robes and sabers. Dude we were there the whole time… the only difference is now we ware pajamas, no-one ever noticed the saber… lol, don’t get mad that the Jedi are playing a CHARACTER in a GAME. You people make it seem like there is a 1:1 ratio of Jedi to regular players, which it is not…. There are about 400 players to 1 Jedi. There are a lot of Jedi coming out of the woodwork now because the system is better and yeah we are dueling in the starports…. THE SYSTEM IS NEW. It was the same way for every prof in the beginning.
Which is precisely the point.
If you were actually roleplaying Jedi, and not being a arrogant showoff, you'd be in hiding, in fear for your life.
Players like you are why permadeath is needed.
Jedi need to be FORCED to roleplay. Bring back TEF, bring back permadeath.
Cafa
Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:44 am
#851
ebraygun wrote:
WORD TO ALL YOU JEDIS COMPLAINING ABOUT ROBES AND CRAP
Think of the rest of us.........helpless mofo's.. YOUR PREY!
Theres tons of us who worked just as hard and got shafted from being jedi and having the opportunity to play with one.
I hate this stupid new set up.
Were all small fish in a big sea now, filled with sharks (BULLIES) called jedi.
Cant even do imp missions anymore with my girlfriend without getting wacked...looosing 10k in buffs, 24k for a bike they knock you off of. and 1.5 hours to go get healed, fix yoru mind...line up 15 min for new buffs, and line up 20 min for stupid shuttles.
1) well why dont you wait till your tef runs out... shouldn;t have too. we wait for everything else.. now we gotta be affraid to do anything.. and i dont see any overts anymore in the past 4 days.
2) Why dont you contract a BH.. **edit** they gonna do.. nothing.. they cant.. they need 12 to 14 tka guys maybe to get him once..
SO we all gotta travel in packs? Cant go overt and fight reg enemies, cause theres a jedi at every turn. NO CHANCE..
NONE...
Im master commando and couldnt even get "one" shot off b4 he got me, my GF and our bikes!
I pay the same as everyone else each month. and worked my but off everyday when I have time.(no jedi slot here). only to be bullied all day long now and run around whith my tail between my legs.
Last night got killed twice by same guy who uses force run 3 to catch up on ya.. kills 2 of my bikes, my GF's bike, got pissed then logged off.
Log on this morning. go get healled and buffed again, go back to do missions, and bang 10 min later i'm dead from another jedi. and another bike gone.
LOG OFF AGAIN..cause im soo pissed...try to find that JEDIS IP>>his address and smash him one! if only i could.
and doubt I will ever return
Also be on teh look out on ebay.. SELLING 12 years (HUGE INVENTORY of STAR WARS TOYS & COLLECTABLES!!!
I dunt want em anymore......
Real great!
In a word, Force Run 2 and 3 really has to go. Out right!!! Seriously this has got to be the most STUPID design choice you developers could have ever made.
If the Jedi are so damn tough why does ever damn one of them take Force Run 2 and 3 and run like little dweebs.
Get rid of Force Run 2 and 3 and make the damn Jedi fight. Wimps!
Cafa Asia
Fezzig
Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:46 am
#852
Issue: Cannot complete Jedi Trials because Graul Marauder spawn is broken on Dantooine on Ahazi due to over population of that planet. Due to high population dynamic spawns do not regenerate. This can be evidenced by visiting the planet first thing in the morning when you will see dynamic spawns, and then visiting the planet later in the day and all of dynamic spawns will be gone. The effect of this is that you can only find Graul Marauders directly after server reboot. This situation is preventing a number of Jedi from proceeding to the FRS.
Server: Ahazi
Planet: Dantooine
Location (x,y): Dynamic Spawns
Your profession: Jedi
Instructionson how to recreate the bug: Wander around Dantooine on Ahazi for an entire day starting at server reset. You will see that the dynamic spawns completely stop. By evening there will be virtually no dynamic spawns.
Cafa
Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:48 am
#853
Aljebra424 wrote:
Agreed. The devs are very shortsighted in terms of what this jedi patch has now done.
And the -200k xp penalty? Geez..get a doc in your group, go fight, let them heal you..stop trying to go solo.
Well there's the problem, isn't it! The word Jedi and GROUP mean nothing together.
Cafa
Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:54 am
#854
Riah1 wrote:
[snip]
Everyone want to now complain about the Jedi, and how the system is so unbalanced… What about CM? What about Fencer? Dude do you fools realize that a good stun baton is more powerful than a lightsaber? Our heals are crap! (this is where all of you Jedi haters out there take note) It is a sad day for everyone when a freaking master brawler can kill a Jedi Knight…. Or a CM with a CDEF. You want to talk about getting NERF’ed.
Yeah the only chance that we have is to carry our sabers and ware our robes…. With out them if we get attacked we are screwed. We loose the only armor (although it is a “hidden” amount of protection) and def (block) we have…. Oh, and to top all of this off you non original Fencer/TKM/CM fools… check out your cantina… bet they are smaller. We are the doc’s and the entertainers out there we have to get additional accounts to BUFF so we can fight a pistoleer….. You say we are taking away your dream, and I am here to tell you your dream is a flop. You think the game is all about entertainers, image designers, or fencers… I hate to tell you this is a galactic civil war and the Jedi are on the main stage… we are not going anywere and the DEV’s are done nerfing us.. and you non-Jedi are next. I can’t wait to see all of those dot lances and mad craze poisons go poof (100 a tic) just like they did to commando. I to make it better I cant wait to hear the same people cry.
If you want to quit, fine. If you want to try and sell your SW memorabilia cool. If you have a problem with what I am saying, great go overt
RIAH (BE/Rifleman)
Soirfa (Architect/Master Dancer)
Alice-Blood (Dark Jedi)
Lowca PVP – Put-Up or Shut-Up
We have plenty of the other professions in our guild. As a matter of fact our guild probably has more docs than any on the server.
You, on the other hand, can heal ANYTHING laying flat on your back and then run like a sissy the moment you get back up instead of fighting. Of course those advantages arent enough, you want to come here and grieve someone that can't play the game now due to over-ego little snots like youorself that ruin the legacy of Lucas.
Stop making threats to puff your chest little whiner. You electronic toon may be 95% of your ego, but it's not that way for the rest of us.
BleuDestiny
Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:39 am
#855
No rants, no insults, but this is it for me. I'm giving it maybe two more weeks. If three things dont change, I and my 4 accounts will be leaving swg. I'm all for evolution, and most of the changes are OK, even tho they fundamentally make this a different game. But it seems that each change makes fundamental hardcore challenges to enjoying the game...
Here goes:
3 things that will make me cancel my accounts:
1. The 200kxp jedi death penalty. 20k would be OK as often as we die in this game, but to undo a day or two's worth of work (and work it usually is) is nonsense and i'm not going to play this way. My jedi is shelved until this is fixed, or account is closed if its not fixed timely.
2. The limits on houses are unrealistic, especially since they just borked any ability to store things. Cant even stack 100k bricks, so as a crafter, i'm supposed to be able to keep subcomponents and harvest, and store resources with basically 3 bags full of resources per house, and we're supposed to decorate too? and they had the nerve to just hand out "PAINTINGS" just prior to nerfing the house counts, like there's room for any non-essentials as it is?!? The house counts need to double or tripple for crafters.
3. The jedi is way too unbalanced at both ends. As a new jedi, I cant even tackle a fambaa lair, no lie. And that's with a full set of buffs and a gen 3 saber. It sounds like on the other end that hi-level jedi are too powerful. So I've got to work all that time for a jedi only to be handed a boy scout who cant stay alive on simple lairs. Base jedi need more powers, more toughness, particularly against head-attacking mobs like fambaas and pikets and rancors etc, but overall too. This is nonsense and no fun. Balance out the jedi on both ends...
Seriously, this is the last straw. I'll be gone. I've half our guild leave to WoW, City of Heros, and others. And these three things need to change pronto, or this anchor is going to pull up and leave SWG too.
GERRAN
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:18 am
#856
JEDI ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN HIDING NOT THE ENTIRE POPULATION YOU HAVE DESTROYED THE GCW FOR ALL NON JEDI IN ONE SWIPE GOOD WORK SONY!!!!!!!!!!!!
If u folks have half a brain do not declare do not let the new supermen of swg pad there FRS numbers on you it is pointless to try! If you want to have fun in PvP then you will have to duel 1 on 1 it is the only way!!!
joined42904
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:32 pm
#857
Wow check out BleuDestiny's post.
A jedi who will quit the game if jedi aren't improved from demigod status to god mode status.
And who gripes about 200k experience loss when it should be PermaDeath.
It would be too much of a gift to ask for if jedi with your attitude (and they seem to be in the majority) would just leave the game as you threaten to do.
But what do I predict? The devs will hear your cries. After all you are one of their elite jedi players. Something everyone should aspire to, right? They can't bear to think of a jedi quitting because as a brand new toon he can't take out a whole lair of level 34 creatures...specific ones mind you not just generic level 34s...that gang up on you two ata time. Wow...that must be because you are underpowered and the devs haven't given you enough abilities.
Surely comments like this must mean that the devs should reduce the penalty for jedi deaths even more. And of course that means that bounty hunter missions must take a further reduction in payout because of what would be a jedi exploit.
Free_Beer
Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:36 pm
#858
HighRoller3K wrote:
Katmer wrote:
What happened to the Character Transfer service that was supposed to go live with Publish 9?
Quoted for Emphasis, I want to know what happened to this too...its conspicously absent from recent Publish 9 Dev discussion. We aren't stupid SOE, we remember this was promised.
I wanted to give this question another bump. I can understand if it didn't make this patch but it would be nice to see a response.