Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Test Center Update Notes Aug 19, 2004
Jutifulmars wrote:
who is testing the jedi padwan system. I know your testing the FS system very heavily but what about padwan. Are me and all the other patch 9 post pre 10 unlockers to be guinne pigs in a system that could be broken?
Good question.
So Devs.... when are we going to test the conversion of folks who master X amount of profession in the old system to the new system and the unlockers?
Blu_Haze wrote:
Ceraphim wrote:
Blu_Haze wrote:
Rogue_5 wrote:
- FS Quests: Changed name of the shadow mercenary nofaction to 'a Sith Shadow commander'
/sighWhy must you insist on calling these guys "sith". There are no sith in the entire galaxy besides the master and the apprentice. None, zero, zip, ziltch. This can't even be debated like the possiblity of a few jedi survivors or people training new jedi. The way of the sith was passed on only from master to apprentice, and has been for thousands of years. As I've said before I can understand you guys putting continuity to the side a little bit to allow player jedi in the game, but how does having some NPC named sith add to the game at all? How can you justify degrading the continuity even further with this?Just remove the "sith" part from the NPCs names and everything will be fine. What's so wrong with having simply "a Shadow Commander", or "a Shadow Outlaw"? This is something that could be done very easily and would make quite a few people happy who still care about what little bit of continuity we have left in this game.Any character with "Sith" in their name or title does not imply they are actual "Sith". As a matter of fact, even the Sith Lord and Apprentice (The Emporer/Vader, Exar Kun/Ulic Qel-Droma, Revan/Malak) are not real "Sith". The true Sith died out centuries before Exar Kun began unraveling their ancient teachings. The current "Sith" are but followers of the Sith teachings, nothing more.In case you haven't noticed, this game is not KOTOR, so quit quoting the loading screens. And yes, Lord Vader and Emperor Palpatine are true sith. They may not be of the extinct sith species, but they are part of the real sith cult. As far as your "not really sith" comment, it's very simple. Don't call them sith if they aren't sith. How hard is this to comprehend? The point you tried to make about "any character with "sith in their name or title does not imply they are actual sith" makes no sense whatsoever. That's like saying someone with the title "master rifleman" isn't really a rifleman at all. Or saying someone with "(a thug)" after their name isn't really in the thug faction, they just like to pretend they are.
Why would you even be defending this? How does it better your gaming experience if some NPC is called "sith" or if they're simply called "shadow thugs" (or whatever else SOE would want to call them). There is no reason why they should be called Sith. None at all.
Message Edited by Blu_Haze on 08-20-2004 07:02 PM
This is getting beyond silly. There is nothing in the entire EU that precludes the existence of an Unknown band of Sith coming around and deciding they don't like the Jedi on Dathomir. Sith were Sith for a long time before the Dark Jedi even found them. it is a big Universe and anything is possible. And in fact,a band of Sith that managed to escape and hide would have a pretty strong revenge motive agains the Jedi.
Message Edited by Vowelumos on 08-21-2004 01:29 PM
Blu_Haze wrote:
/sigh
Why must you insist on calling these guys "sith". There are no sith in the entire galaxy besides the master and the apprentice. None, zero, zip, ziltch. This can't even be debated like the possiblity of a few jedi survivors or people training new jedi. The way of the sith was passed on only from master to apprentice, and has been for thousands of years. As I've said before I can understand you guys putting continuity to the side a little bit to allow player jedi in the game, but how does having some NPC named sith add to the game at all? How can you justify degrading the continuity even further with this?
Just remove the "sith" part from the NPCs names and everything will be fine. What's so wrong with having simply "a Shadow Commander", or "a Shadow Outlaw"? This is something that could be done very easily and would make quite a few people happy who still care about what little bit of continuity we have left in this game.
If you read the context of the NPC's conversation you will see that these people CALL THEMSELVES the Sith Shadows.
What i gather from that is that someone somewhere has possibly been through the initial jedi training of the aurillians and somewhere along the line went to the dark side.
Then started training others and gathering followers of his ways.
At that point taking up the name of the sith While not actually being sith.
Makes it alot easier to swallow that way