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Thread: AT-ST changes on Test Center

Hons-Isi
Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:32 pm
#716






What about our rebel Faction pets? They are even more worthless then an At-st?


Come on, You still have a medium armor pet we have to to use No armor or light ones with very low resists.


Be happy with the at-st, it could have been much worse.






Let's stop and think about this for just one minute please. You are a REBEL. You are the underdog in a system of government owned and controlled by the Imperials. Keeping in mind that you are an underdog (which you should have been conscience of when you choose sides) why is it then so objectionable that those in power should have a more powerful unit... think about it. If this is a ROLEPLAYINGgame then lets do a little more role playing and a little less whining. I don't remember Skywalker ever complaining that the at-st was too powerful in the movie... HE SUCKED IT UP! People should just play the game and stop complaining ALL THE TIME. Games that are equaly matched all the way around are no fun. Look at Warcraft II (lol). Seriously though... you want to talk about balence issues then let's talk about TKA. I'm not going to go into that though because a) I don't want to be a hipocrit and B) that's an entirely different thread.

Nerf-hater
Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:38 pm
#717

Note to Development:


If the best you guys can do is to create an object then take away attributes, then you need to seek other employment.


I suggest you focus on New in-game Armiments for faction players and treat them as their own classes.. They are not pets and they should not be specificly limited to Flagged warfare either..


Where are the Combat Droids of NYM? No battle Tanks? no machinery that a player climbs into and controls? Planetary fighters?


The game is during a period of Civil War when smugglers are very active yet I see no "Black Market"


I want to BUY a slightly used ATST with customizable armiments from a dasterdly pirate smuggler!


I also want to be able to buy several battle droids as well and USE ALL OF THEM AT ONCE!


The part of the game i enjoyed most was my (group) warfare on the nests of some nasty critters.


If your "Creative??" abilities continue the way they have been going... give me my money back on my two accounts and I'll go back to EQ

monh0
Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:28 pm
#718

Just another two cents,


IMO,


The AT-ST should be a vehicle and not a pet in the first place and should have nothing to do with CH's and everything to do with the faction rank of the owner. Rank should have its priviledges. A Colonel or General should be able to command a squadron of vehicles or a battalion of troops(a command point system is a very good idea)


The "vehicle" should be repairable through the same means as any other piece of machinery and not healed in the field. Anyone who knows anything about combat should realize that you aren't going to be welding and rebuilding powerplants on a battlefield. Damage is damage and should be repaired at a facility, even if that means that it can only be repaired in a city (like char damaged healed in a med ctr)


The Empire is the Empire, they should have the best, nastiest equipment available to them. BUT, that equipment should be lootable and repairable by either side. Like we said in Mechwarrior; "Waste the meat, Save the machine". If following the movie story-line it should be obvious that the rebellion wasn't running around in loin cloths, they had technology as well. Where are the battle-droids? Why shouldn't rebel forces be able to capture an AT-ST or anything else for that matter?.


I think that the AT-ST should be made much more powerful than it was pre-nerf. Make it something that will take a concerted effort to bring down. NO ONE should be able to solo these things short of a Jedi and even then don't make it easy. If one AT-ST can kill 50 soldiers then great!! that is the way it's supposed to be no matter which side is using them.


I see a nasty trend with the DEV's : You trashed EQ by making it a game that a 4 year old can play. You destoyed any challenge there and you will probably destroy this game as well in the name of getting people to cough up $15.00 a month. Maybe, just MAYBE you'll make changes based on making a BETTER game and not giving in to the whining of the two-digit IQ crowd. Really, what do you think the people at Lucas Arts really think about the watered down content and the literal castration of the "Empire"?


/rantoff


Sorry, got carried away.



QuilanD
Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:34 pm
#719

Ridiculous....


I am the commanding officer of an elite imperial at-st, i am taking heavy fire from 7 or 8 npc (that have attcked me), i give an attack order, and..... nothing


thats a bloody court martial offence in any ones language, and i know who should be court martialled!


not happy

Dyseman
Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:38 pm
#720

-Close Thread-


Not listened to yet again




----Just me----
Abel_II
Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:48 pm
#721

Once again SOE shows that all they care about are the greater number of players....since most the players are the Creature Handlers/Rebels SOE fixes all complaints from them first. As long as Rebels outnumber Imperials SOE will not favor the imperials on fixes.


The Second Nerfing of AT&ST and number of faction pets allowed by non-creature handlers prove once again this fact.



Hey You know SOE if all the imperials quit...the rebels will not have anyone to fight.


elreyyyyy
Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:54 pm
#722

Well you have done it again. I have 2 at st's that are useless over 18k faction that took me weeks to get. Now they wont even defend me against something that is attacking me! O I forgot I can still use 1 to do faction missions to get more stuff that is totaly useless. **edit** are you guys doing? Are you all rebels, or on crack or something? I think you need to look at the game from a player's point of view.


The empire is dead. With the holo drop rate favoring the rebels and virtualy no way for imps to get them any more there soon will be no imps left. And I for one am leaving the game. My account will be sold and someone else can deal with the favoritism that is SWG.




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Cafa
Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:30 pm
#723

Honestly why do they even ask our opinions? I don't know.


GCW is dead, at least until we get the supposed changes to give imperials an edge. Of course, based upon a consistant history here for three consecutive nerfs of our perks, they're lying about that too and next they'l probably take away our furniture!


I'm really glad that you (dev's) made me have no choice to explore my character and do what I want in the power basis of this game. Real soon now I just be emulating Setis, which isn't a bad thing - never has there been a terrorist rebel like that on Tempest, and I will just wax rebels left and right. I'll go into their cities and kill their TEF'd healers just like they love to do in Bestine. You Dev's remember Bestine? That bastion of Imperial power. Honest, just read your own literature!


GCW is dead, long live the whiney snot-nosed snivelling rebel cowards that couldn't win through play, only through nerfdom. Really hope the whole dev team is proud of their achievement. Three cheers even!


Cafa Asia


+aka, unarmed is really a pain




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A player bodyguard can't protect you either, something agroes you, you are dead. The
only difference between a pet and the person, is you pay the person to stand there
and watch you die. -- Straker Atrella

nicedreams
Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:47 pm
#724

this is crap i am not playing this crap game no more you rrefund me my dam FP i paid 18900 fp for each of my AT ST i hope this game goes down the drain its total crap
Firemaker1
Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:56 pm
#725

hmm.. plz .. make us be abelto heal our AT-ST and if it dies, a enginer or somthing can bring it back.. or mabey we can return it to a imperial rec and pay like 1000 fp to him so he can repair it... then Im happy!.. Im a old Anarchy-Online player and I now what will happend to a game when the dev team not lissening to its players.. remeber.. without us.. your game is dead.....



/Firemaker lvl 200 Enforcer "Anarchy Online"

Jundicator
Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:31 pm
#726

A galaxy of neutral creature handlers is not Star Wars.


Good luck keeping SW fans interested without the galactic cival war. The recent imperial changes are only going to killthis struggling portion of the game. And who will want to be a rebel when there is no one to fight against? Start the celebration music, the alliance is victorious. Good job rebs, all that hard work paid off.


So much for the continuity of Star Wars, that the devs seem to work so hard to adhere to. My interest is wanning.

IncidentA5
Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:58 pm
#727

IMO I think that removing the AT-ST's PvE ability is the biggest mistake the devs have made to date. Im fine with the 1 pet per non-ch and most of the other changes but just think. What does this do to the players who like to solo. Now its impossible or extremely unlikely that I will survive any good missions on endor, or any of the good mission planets now. I was half-way to 10k fp's when this change struck. Now ive got about a months fp's invested into something that is useless. Forget the troops and equiptment, they suck too. I havent tried st armor but I bet thats been nerfed too.


The only good thing that has come out of this patch is vehicles. But their are still problems. Just think about this for a second, I have the futuristic gun and the oversized butterfly can beat me. Something is wrong with that. The game needs to be hard but not unplayable.


-Krete- Ahazi

LOPxPhophet
Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:10 pm
#728

is this a joke? i have to be a creature handler to have 3 at after i spent 53,000 faction so i can use 3 at-st? this is crap im a master commando ,if all you want to do is promote CH then screw you im gone ,i for one will never buy another sony product again. Why the hell should i have to be CH to own 3 at!!! freaking CH are to powerfull already you idiots!!!!! and i can use stronger words like bafoons or whatever. i quit and will not renew at all until you make this game enjoyable instaed of playing beta GODS and wrecking professions and paths people choose, good god did you listen to rebal s again!!! you do know they out number us 10-1? All i can say is this game gets lamer by the min.....go look at the billion speeder now on bria LOL ITS A JOKE !!! just like who ever is in charge!!! i can do better with no education and a little capital and smoke your company in ideas ,all i hear is people bitching about this game now. i use to be excited about this game and played it everyday but now i never play it and even with all your so called big publishes, i know this sounds like a rant ,but i dont care i payed 100 us and over to play play this game and ill have my say!! Its been fun for 3 months after it went live but it kept going down hill!! to many bugs !!! to many profession changes !!...omg people have been every peofession because you force them to jump through your beta hoops. Well not me anymore have fun playing with your geek friends cause the only people who truely can stand this mess are GEEKS!!!
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